Attempt to Smear Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Backfires

Submitted by: LordJim 2 weeks ago in News & Politics
Oh, no! She danced at college! ~clutches pearls~

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Male 1,961
Oh boy, she's the new boogey(wo)man of the right? Get it, cause she dances!

Why does the right always target women? Waters, Warren, Pelosi, Hillary, and now Cortez? You guys really do lack class. I can understand gun obsession a little more if dancing women scares you so much. 
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Male 525
I just know she thinks unemployment is low because people work two jobs. And she   has a freaking minor in economics...
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Male 9,621
Fojos Sorry. Could you expand, didn't catch your point.
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Male 525
LordJim It’s more relevant that she is an absolute moron. What is your point?
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Male 9,621
Fojos That does seem to be the established level of comment from your side. Not a single specific showing up.
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Male 525
LordJim I’m not the one claiming to be a socialist while actually thinking Scandinavia is socialist, genius.
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LordJim I'm not smart enough to rise above bait. @Fojos You're a special kind of stupid aren't you? Exactly how are Scandinavian nations not socialist?

And I believe her point was more indicating quite rightly that people who look solely at unemployment, like you, are morons and most certainly shouldn't be criticizing others who talk about economics. 

If a large segment of the working class lives along the poverty line and has to work two or three jobs to subsist in a country, then it might not be best to brag too much about your unemployment rates.
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Male 9,621
Fojos I am capable of nuance. And I am not a genius. I guess I'm just about smart enough not to rise to bait. Goodnight.
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Male 7,516
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Male 13,425
daegog i love this.
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Male 2,240
 Which "conservatives" were trying to smear her? Any names? no? None?
And within hours the entire MSM is all talking about it in unison...

"A twitter account with the suspiciously on-the-nose name "QAnon1776" -- way to hit every single fringe/conservative meme there! -- was suddenly birthed and was soon suddenly deleted. During its brief life, however, it managed to "break" the news that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortex once did a Breakfast Club dance in "high school."

They say "high school" despite the fact that she is wearing a "BOSTON UNIVERSITY" t-shirt, and the "BOSTON UNIVERSITY" name is emblazoned exactly where your eyes are glued -- it's a tight shirt, and in that shirt, she has a nice rack."

It isn't like the Dems (or their supporters) would ever make fake accounts for false flag attacks... or right! They can and do!
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-operatives-created-fake-russian-bots-in-alabama-race-designed-to-link-kremlin-to-republican-roy-moore

What ever happened to the guy who sent fake bombs? He was a life-long liberal Democrat who 'suddenly switched sides' and plastered his van with brand-new pro-Trump stickers and sent pretend bombs out to prominent Democrats...
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Male 1,540
gohikineko NOOO I claimed 'false flag' FIRST (see below)! Did I do right by you, boss?

"Which "conservatives" were trying to smear her? Any names?"
Dan Jordan. Watch the video! It's 9 seconds in.
The video and 'high school' comment is still up there... You wanna post mean messages on that guy's twitter? 

"What ever happened to the guy who sent fake bombs?"
"Cesar Altieri Sayoc Jr., was arrested in Florida on October 26 and charged with five federal crimes"
- wiki based on a CNN story
While you're there, check out the 'conspiracy theories' section to read more about 'unsubstantiated claims'.
Unsatisfied? Here's the Depratment of Justice press release with formal charges. It also includes evidence by the FBI.

Do a bit of research next time, so you can avoid asking stupid questions. 
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Male 195
gohikineko Yes! You and I know that 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'. These fools on IAB think that reality is real, but you and I know how to read between the lines, and behind the lines and outside the lines to get at the TRUTH that nothing is what it appears to be. Everything we like was created by Donald J. Trump, peace be unto him, and everything we don't like was created by evil liberal commie socialists pretending to be conservatives, may they forever be damned!

We will stand together against the forces of evil, marching into a future that only you and I can see, from a present that exists only in our own guts, because we don't need our brains to see the truth that eludes everyone else who doesn't work for AmericanTruth.

Go get 'em, tiger!
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Male 2,568
gohikineko I don't know of any "big name" conservatives trying to smear her with that video but on another website I frequent, the lowlife right wingers were claiming she must be on drugs.
Yep...a 22 year old girl happily dancing MUST be on drugs. 
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Male 937
oobaka It is possible/ plausible that this was started as a false flag type of attack, though the responses to it from the right wingers, as you noted, are right in line with what one would expect.

It gets harder and harder to tell.
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Male 613
Wow!...she is hot!  I think she will be a major contributor to positive change for the USA.  We have to allow her time to get her bearings in Congress and learn all the games.
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Male 2,850
She's an idiot but who cares if she dances?  
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dromed "She's an idiot but who cares if she dances?"

She graduated cum laude from Boston University with a bachelor's degree in international relations and a minor in economics.

Do us all a favor: post a video of you dancing and photocopies of your degrees. So we will know that you, at least, know how to dance and are not an idiot.
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Male 525
dromed A minor in economics yes she thinks unemployment is low because people work two jobs. Very intelligent. 

 
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Male 195
Fojos You seem to have accidentally left out the video of you dancing and the copies of your transcripts that would show us that you know more than she does about economics and have better moves.
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Male 9,621
dromed Why an idiot? She's a socialist but from where I am that's not an idiot position. Specifically, which of her policies do you see as idiotic? Health care? Education? Which? "She's an idiot" doesn't really give us much, you don't like her but you don't say why. Which policies do you disagree with? Seems to be working for her, a lot of people like what she is saying, even before the dance.
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Male 2,850
LordJim A lot of people are idiots too.  That's why she got elected.  
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Male 9,621
dromed Yep. That's the level of political analysis I was asking for.

Just one policy. Say, education or health. Just pick one, outline (fairly) her policy and say why it is stupid.

Just repeating "stupid" doesn't really bring much to the table.
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Male 2,240
LordJim New Green Deal... she's an idiot and a socialist: a duo of dumb!
That and how her 'policies' would literally cost trillions... no idea how they'd get paid for of course.
And her anti-Semitism is disgusting too, but a lot of Democrats have the same opinion and hang out with noted anti-Semites without shame...
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Male 1,210
gohikineko Criticism of Israel or it's Government doesn't necessarily equate to Antisemitism.
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Male 7,516
gohikineko Before I say you are a liar, I will be reasonable and ask "What anti-semitism are you referring too PRECISELY"
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Male 9,621
gohikineko Why is she an idiot? Because she's an idiot. OK, that was helpful. And she's a socialist which to you is anathema but her policies would be considered pretty mainstream in Western Europe. You should visit sometime. Despite what Fox news says, Denmark ain't Venezuala.

Her policies would cost trillions (?) and no idea how it would be paid for. Hmm. How's that wall coming along?

Anti-semitism? Not aware of that. Critical of Israeli policy is anti-semitism to you? Well. that's a fairly common charge which is thrown around.

I'm a socialist and critical of Israeli policy. I guess that makes me an anti-semitic idiot. Why bother wasting your time on scum like me?
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Male 525
daegog She promotes democratic socialism. This has nothing to do with social democracy in Scandinavian countries. Read up on the differences, please. You’re actually calling yourself a socialist and that says a lot. Scandinavian countries are heavily capitalist where someone employed will never become really wealthy because of gigantic taxes on work while corporate taxes are low to promote large companies. 
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Male 7,516
Fojos What are babbling on about?  I asked 5cats specifically about his claims of her anti-semitism.

As for who is what?  No country in the world follows any textbook definition to the letter, you need to let that shit go.  

America does capitalist stuff.  America does socialist stuff.  America does authoritarianism stuff.  America does democracy.

Your inability to understand nuance is troubling.
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Male 525
daegog There's no nuance in Socialism. There's one definition, and it's the controls of the means of production. Social welfare existed long before socialism and is not socialism. Capitalism with welfare is not socialism, it's different degrees of capitalism. Hell, even Adam Smith (she probably doesn't even know who this is, despite her minor) promoted certain welfare points, again, long before the hellish ideology of socialism sprung up.

To claim there's nuance in socialism means you're simply ignorant to the subject. Tell people who actually lived in the socialist utopias that Scandinavia (or the US, what) is "some degrees of socialism" and you'll have a long night.
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Male 195
Fojos "There's no nuance in Socialism. There's one definition..."
My Merriam-Webster provides three definitions, along with a 'Usage Guide' that is rife with nuance.

"(she probably doesn't even know who this is, despite her minor)"
That's a pretty silly type of accusation to make against anyone, about anything. Much of that could cause us to suspect that you aren't being serious.
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Fojos So the road paved to your house is paid for by welfare? Wow, for someone who mocks someone with a minor in economics, you sure are stupid.

Socialism is virtually anything paid for by the collective, moron. The public. If the public pay for and own something like policing or fire, it's socialism, not welfare.

Jesus you are ridiculously ignorant and spewing off like you know something. In your google search of socialism, you must have missed public ownership and regulation by the community as a whole for the betterment of all. 

Roads, Police, Fire, Military etc. If it's regulated, like water regulations protecting the people from capitalist corruption and pollution, it's socialist.

Go read a book.
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Male 525
todd_dirks or maybe you should, ignorant American. So you’d actually claim the US is socialist because there’s some regulation, genius. By your own admission you think any tax is socialism. Are you really that daft? 
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Male 195
Fojos "By your own admission you think any tax is socialism."

That is not what he wrote. He did not expand on his comment, perhaps because he assumed that it would be obvious to the meanest intelligence, but I'm an old fart, and I have learned just how mean the meanest intelligence can be. 

What matters is not whether a tax is levied, but upon whom and in whose interests. For the same reason, what matters about regulations is who is regulated and who is served by the regulations.

You have attempted to discredit nuance in prior comments. I'm sure you are capable of understanding much more about it than you seem to now. Arguing your case is a good start. Reading responses is a good way to continue.
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Male 525
semichisam That's exactly what he wrote. He actually believes a night-watchman state would have socialist elements, read quote " Socialism is virtually anything paid for by the collective, moron. The public. If the public pay for and own something like policing or fire, it's socialism, not welfare." Hence, tax is socialism. False. This is exactly like saying jews are muslims because they have some connection to the same "god". Socialism is an ideology, not a tool. Police forces existed before the ideology of socialism was ever theorized, and welfare existed before it as well.


North Korea; "Oh hey, we are partly capitalist because we allow people to make some transactions". No.
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Male 195
Fojos "Socialism is an ideology, not a tool."

Socialism is both an ideology and an economic system. I do not know of any government, past or present, that was or is purely any one economic system. I gleaned from todd_dirks' comment that he was describing socialistic elements of purportedly non-socialist government, but I leave it to him to explain and/or defend his points.

Of course every way that people can relate to each other economically or any other way existed before the formulation of -isms that describe them. We can study pure ideologies, over-simplified though they are, because the simplification enables us to discuss their differences, but we should not expect to observe them in the wild.
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Male 1,961
Fojos Aren't you the guy complaining about people harassing others for political views? What a damn hypocrite. 
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Male 7,516
They should have made her speaker of the house, that would have been a great deal more entertaining.

It's almost like conservatives to not understand what is actually bad and what's not.
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Male 2,568
daegog If they are told it's bad, then it's bad. 
You don't think most of the sheep bother to form their own opinion, do you?
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Like going after a guy for liking beer
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Male 2,568
dm2754 Like going after a guy who drank way too much and sexually assaulted a woman. ... I fixed it for ya.
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Male 9,621
dm2754 Yep. A young woman dancing is exactly the same as a young man raping. That's how it works, right?
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Male 10,070
LordJim Wait, what am I missing? DM said that criticizing a young woman for dancing (natural, common behavior) is like criticizing a guy for liking beer (also natural, common behavior). What's wrong with that observation?
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Male 9,621
squrlz4ever Surely we both know it was a Kavanaugh reference? And that "liking beer" is not the reason he had a problem. Did you really miss that?

Allow me to explain; Kavenaugh had a problem because he was accused of serial sex abuse (plausibly, in my opinion). Part of his response was to repeat endlessly that he liked beer ( and church ). This became something of a meme and his supporters have tried to give the impression that he was being hounded for liking beer. He wasn't.

Remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m6mCRePii0
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Male 10,070
LordJim Thank you! Yes, I totally missed the reference. Went right over my head. The moment you said "Kavanaugh," I understood. I'm often a little slow on the uptake. Thanks.
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Male 9,621
squrlz4ever You're welcome. I was puzzled  -- I'm not always randomly grumpy!
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Male 10,070
LordJim You guys are smart around here. I definitely need to drink my morning coffee before perusing the boards.  :)
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LordJim sometimes your level of stupidity astounds me.
I think that's the most colossal reach you've ever made.
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Male 195
dm2754 Yep. you're right. Dancing is evil. It's as bad as bragging to Congress about how much you like beer. Boy, did you nail poor LordJim. He has no idea how awful it is that a young woman dances. But you and I know, right? (wink wink, nudge nudge)
You and I know how shameful it is for a young woman to dance in public. 
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Male 9,621
dm2754 Thank you. One tries to astound at stupid but I just can't hope to attain your level.
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Male 1,540
No no!!! That was propaganda lies planted by liberals! They double bluffed and you fell for it: Hillary men made those fake false-flag 'attack ads' and now Hillary blames Republicans. It's all a giant conspiracy!!! 
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Male 195
boredhuman "It's all a giant conspiracy!!!"
I don't recall seeing you at the meetings, tovarishch!
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Male 9,621
semichisam You have said too much. Check your door handles.
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Male 195
LordJim I was hoodwinked when they brought me into the room. I said I wanted light.
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Male 9,621
semichisam Hope you don't live near a cathedral.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwbY9O_zMe4

It's fine. They're in the fitness industry and love spires.
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Male 1,961
She a dang cutie.
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