The Mind Of An Anti-Vaxxer

Submitted by: daegog 2 months ago in Funny News & Politics Science
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Female 5,289
omg. This video seems to actually describe the amount of research provaccinators do when looking into vaccine safety.
I liked her book "200 hundred years of vaccine whatever", there has always been an antivaccination movement, right from the smallpox debacle.
When I talk to pro-vaccine people (which in itself is difficult because they usually just scream and run away, unable to process information or make simple cognitive jumps of reason) I like to try and get them to question themselves as to how many bits of dangerous bits of information, or 'red flags' about a topic do they need to find out before they ask themselves "is this really a good idea?"
let's begin with the fact that in 1986, vaccine manufacturers threatened to stop making vaccines because they were getting sued so much by vaccine injured individuals. It was becoming too costly for big pharma, their product was so shit that stopping making it became an option. 
For some unknown reason- most likely politicians are all morons- the American government offers big pharma complete immunity from prosecution from vaccine injured individuals. After 1986, you cannot sue vaccine manufacturers if their PRODUCT kills you or maims you. (note I capitalised PRODUCT because that's what vaccines are. A product made by pharmaceutical companies that makes them money)
Now surely this is as dodgy as all fuck and should be enough to send people fleeing from vaccinations, but no, people are dumb as shit...
Now, someone in government had a smallish sized brain, and thought, "hey, but won't this mean they can just get away with everything and do anything they want? we better put some sort of control measure on this blanket immunity to make sure someones paying attention to what's going on...."
and so was born the direction that the department of human health and safety must do a biannual report on the safety and practices of vaccines and their manufacturers. Seems like a good idea yes? check up on big pharma, make sure vaccines are safe? make sure nothing weird or bad is going on? excellent idea, a small-brained fellow in some government department...
One small problem though, 
in the last 33 years, not one single report was filed. They never did them. 
For 33 years since big pharma was given total immunity from prosecution for selling and promoting a PRODUCT that on record, has killed and maimed thousands of babies, children and adults, and injured multitudes more, there have been no checks and balances to ensure that big pharma has been at least even trying to do a better job. 
None.
Still vaccinating?
If so, you deserve everything that happens to you.
Do some actual research with some actual experts and stop blindly accepting government propaganda.
Feel free to argue with me, I have large databases of expert information at my fingertips.
Next, I think we should discuss heavy metal poisoning...

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Male 7,520
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Male 965
Gerry1of1 I think I know how you *could* get austism from vaccination: Autism can be caused by auto-immune reactions in the brain. Certain antibodies, when reaching the brain, can cause auto-immune reactions (there is a barrier that *should* prevent that). This explains why only certain studies would have a chance of finding the effect: The affected people need to be vulnerable to two body malfunctions and you can only have that effect with certain diseases to vaccinate against.

My ¢¢: If your family isn't likely to have autism, there will be no special danger, also if you postpone vaccinating, you can avoid that (if the disease is not widespread). Also I /guess/ it's more likely to get autism by actually catching that disease or if your pregnant mother caught that disease. 

TL;DR: Vaccinate if recommended. You wouldn't jump out of a window in fear of stumbling on the stairs.

PS: The most pressing problem, according to what I heard, is not refreshing your shots. Did you ask your doctor lately about it?
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Male 7,520
7eggert See, that is a HORRIBLE notion to even spread.

There is absolutely zero evidence to support that claim.  It would be akin to saying Rutabagas cause autism, because they seem like they might.

I think our generations are just too far from the horrors of smallpox that ravaged children regularly so we think up all kinda shit.

Our grandparents and great grandparents understood these things a whole lot better than we do just because they saw the issues first hand.
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Male 965
daegog Why do you feel the need to bury scientific findings in order to promote vaccinating? Or more precisely: Why do you feel the need to bury scientific findings in order to promote vaccinating to people mistrusting you because of exactly that kind of behavior?

If the mere possibility that vaccinating isn't completely completely completely harmless is "HORRIBLE", to you there is something wrong. Do you think people won't notice?
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Male 46,097
"The Mind of an Anti-Vaxxer"

They have minds ?

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Male 965
Gerry1of1 The most pressing problem of pro-vaxxing campaign is only addressing pro-vaxxers. Yes, we know how and why and … then we present ourselves like a sowjet propagandist.

Your picture is a counter-example - but anti-vaxxers will have stopped reading at "they have minds?"
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Male 46,097
7eggert    a sow jet

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Male 965
Gerry1of1 B0rken picture, but I assume a speling error.

Rule 1 of conversation is: Don't drive away the people you're trying to convince before making your point.

Rule 1 of Pro-Vaxxing: Present yourself as a white knight of vaxxing
Rule 2 of Pro-Vaxxing: Present the other side as dumb and dangerous
Rule 3 of Pro-Vaxxing: Wonder why there are only pro-vaxxers still listening
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Male 46,097
7eggert  
Laughing at fools is not a conversation, it's a hobby.
Not you of course, Flat Earthers and such as them
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