Follow-Up: The Kid Who Killed And Buried His Mother Over A Bad Grade Shows Up In Court

Submitted by: littlemissqt 1 week ago in News & Politics


The arresting officer called him 'soulless' yet people who know him are still making excuses for him. It's hard to believe there were no signs that 15-year-old Greg Ramos was capable of killing his own mother. Most murders show signs, even if they're subtle.
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Male 9,289
A couple things stand out for me in this story, and not in a good way.

First, the gruesome detail that the son returned to the house to find his mother still alive and then spent another half hour strangling her a second time. That kind of removes the "crime of passion" explanation, doesn't it?

Second, I find it chilling that the boy was able to get two friends to help him dispose of his mother's body. You've got to be socializing with the absolute bottom of the barrel if your high school buddies are willing to pitch in and help you get rid of your mother's corpse.
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Male 18,342
squrlz4ever you've got the crime of passion and then the desperate  cover up     
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Male 9,289
Draculya Yes, I think that describes it. It really is horrible: If only that kid had somehow managed to come to his senses between the two acts or if someone had intervened somehow. He had a rare chance to turn his initial act into a horrible, but recoverable incident or the worst kind of murder that's destroyed two lives (his mother's and his own) and he went down the wrong path.
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6,813
sounds like he finally learned to fallow tough. if he put that much in to his school work he would have gotten a D   
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Female 8,514
poor kid- i have no idea how this happened, but he needs help. 
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Male 9,185
madduck I doubt he'll get it. 
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Male 95
I'm waiting for the first news story to imply he did this because he played violent video games. I don't think I'll be waiting long.
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Male 13,185
Grif_91 Let me guess, you'll desperately try to deny any possible link, even though video games are more accessible to children than ever before, and normalizing people to death like never before?

Games when i was a kid weren't too in depth, it was easy to tell it was a video game, yeah i jumped on king koopa's head and he died.  But young kids coming up now with realistic looking games, it may be difficult for some to differentiate.  Throw in the normalizing of drugs in, and someone might get killed while the kid is high, thinking "oh i can just reset it", and realizing how stupid that is once they're not high anymore.
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Male 95
monkwarrior Penn & Teller (the comedian/magician duo) a few years ago had a show on Showtime called "Penn & Teller's Bullshit." Really fantastic show in my opinion. Sort of in the same vein as TruTV's Adam Ruins Everything (also great show). At any rate, instead of attempting to defend against this notion that video game violence begets violent youth myself, I would point you to their episode on the exact same subject, as I do not see the need in treading the same ground that has been tread before. It is Season 7, Episode 3.
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Male 13,185
Grif_91 That's the best you have?
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6,813
monkwarrior I've watched violent films and have played violent video games my entire life. As a kid we played War. And not once have I ever tried to kill anyone. AAnd a nor have  I had the desire to go on a shooting spree
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Male 13,185
dm2754 But you didn't grow up in an age where the internet was normal, realistic games are what they are today, such as people born in the last 10-15 years.
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Female 6,605
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Male 13,185
melcervini great fallacies. But young kids coming up now with realistic looking games, it may be difficult for some to differentiate. Throw in the normalizing of drugs in, and someone might get killed while the kid is high, thinking "oh i can just reset it", and realizing how stupid that is once they're not high anymore.
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Male 6,271
monkwarrior once again, the celebate internet warrior monk is telling parents how to raise kids.
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Male 13,185
rumham again rumham doesn't understand what was said
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Female 6,605
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6,813
monkwarrior let's not forget the book of Exodus where God goes around murdering babies and the children but he's very sexist about it
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Male 13,185
dm2754 oh, back to fallacies! lol!
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Female 6,605
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Male 13,185
melcervini Violence can be 'normalized' by video games, don't be silly thinking it can't be.
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Female 6,605
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Male 13,185
melcervini so the cracks occur
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Male 6,271
monkwarrior so the celebate internet monk warrior is now gonna lecture us on child rearing. ahahaha 
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Male 13,185
rumham again the floating rumham missed the point
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Female 6,605
monkwarrior  All joke-memes aside, its all about parenting.  If you dont teach your little shits right from wrong, fact from fiction,  allow them to participate in adult activities when they're children, shove 'behavior modification pills' down their throats, and then expect them to process adult mindsets, they're going to turn into huge shits.  Its the parents, not a video game or a cartoon.

Bugs Bunny didn't make anyone violent:


Or homosexual/transvestite: 


Or a chain smoker hooked on coffee:


TL:DR  Shitty parents create shitty kids.
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Male 13,185
melcervini Again, many parents these days are playing call of duty in realistic simulation-like games, while their kid watches on from the crib.  And it's not just a 5m bugs bunny skit that you get bored of the 10th time.  But we're talking huge cities and worlds that you can spend 24/7 exploring and still not see it all in a month.  And that's just 1 of 100's if not 1000's of the games out there right now being shown to kids in the crib.  Being trained how to kill and 'normalized' to it, perhaps even thinking it's so normal, you can just reset and it's back to how things were.
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Female 6,605
monkwarrior And all that equals shitty parenting.  Its not a game's fault.  I'd be willing to bet that more people have lost their lives over a game of chess because there was a shitty person playing.

okay, one more :D
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Male 13,185
melcervini most farmville users grew up in a time where there was no internet.  Which is far different than children going from crib to adulthood with realistic looking games where murdering is normal.
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Female 6,605
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Male 13,185
melcervini problem you seem to have is you're applying growing up in your time with people growing up today.  Things are different.
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3,632
So, is he being tried as an adult or juvenile? 
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Male 7,136
skypirate I can't imagine he could possibly get tried as a juvenile.  Do they even try juveniles for first degree murder?
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Female 8,514
daegog they should, you either accept children are children or you dont
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Male 18,342
madduck in the UK he would. In the US he probably wouldn't
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Female 8,514
Draculya yeah- add in the fact that they still kill people it is seriously disturbing
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3,632
daegog IDK. I stopped trying to rationalize US law a long time ago. I figure if I want to get on that level I need to down a 1/5th of vodka, spin around 30 times and hit my self on the head with a hammer twice and then I might be in the same mindset. 
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skypirate not commie vodka, bourbon.. and more than a 1/5.. yee haw!
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