Open Forum Friday, Flippy-Spinny Edition: October 12, 2018

Submitted by: squrlz4ever 1 month ago in Misc
I'm letting Ozzy Man kick the weekend off with his trademark enthusiasm, this time about some "flippy-spinny shit" on the gymnasium mat. Living life well isn't easy and I don't claim to know what all the ingredients are. But I'm pretty sure enthusiasm is one of them.

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Male 6,238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvsb7vM_Pn0

i know another stupid link to music people hate.
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Male 1,910
I haven't commented much here today. I've been out cutting firewood. I have my wood in for the winter, but a friend needs help with his. Here's where we stopped for lunch today.


There's a wellhead there and the grass grows well. A herd of wild horses was grazing less than a hundred yards from us.
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semichisam01 I hate you so much right now LOL :D
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melcervini Do you like wild horses? I saw this stallion, mare and foal grazing in our valley. The grass was still green on the north slope.

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semichisam01 I feel ashamed by my "city boy"-ness. The thought of horses just being wild animals roaming around was very strange to me.
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yelloow12 "The thought of horses just being wild animals roaming around..."
I'm not a city boy, but it takes some getting used to. Horses are incredibly powerful, and the potential for danger is real, but they are always trying to conserve energy and won't bother any life form that isn't bothering them.
There are about 70 horses in this herd. They move in families, with stallions keeping all the mares they can hold on to. There are groups of bachelors. They hang around in case a stallion loses a fight, but there isn't much fighting.
What I like most about them is that they eat dry grass in the summer, and the dry grass is where fires start.

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semichisam01 Ah, neat. Do you live out there? Out there being generally not in the city and where there are wild horses.
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yelloow12 I live in a small town, and own forest property nearby. The lower elevations are mostly oak savannah, which is good horse land.
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daegog   I love Stephen Fry.... he's my guru
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Male 45,208
Halloween costumes are WAY more cool than when I was a kid.
I had a badly made thin plastic face with a rubber band around my
head that always got caught in your hair..... this kid has this



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Gerry1of1 Oh, a child predator.

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Male 45,208
skypirate Love that gif. Every time I see it.
Yes I am a child predator... I line them up in my scope from 
my porch and yell "Get out of those plants"

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Male 1,636
So very cute! High quality manga:
https://dynasty-scans.com/series/my_master_furry_eared_girl_mel
G-rated, but features 'yuri' (girls love) and of course a catgirl :-)
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daegog Did the frogs build the stove and turn on the heat? No, someone else (Mother Nature) did that...
What exactly can the frogs do? Jump out of course. Please indicate how humans can "jump out" of the Earth. Be specific.
Perhaps if the frogs reduces their carbon footprint by 75% the pot would cool by 0.0001C? That would surely save them! Just eat half as many flys every day, simple! They'd lose weight and stuff, positive benefits! (end sarc)
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gohikineko "...someone else (Mother Nature) did that..."
Just curious - do you actually believe there is a 'someone' named 'Mother Nature' or are you just fucking around?
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semichisam01 Metaphors are good, yes? I didn't think it was that complicated that people needed an explanation...
Do I need to explain why cutting their food in half would be a very bad long-term solution too? Especially for that remarkably tiny difference.
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Male 1,636
Can I get some moderation in the 'Top scientists' thread over Buckeye?

I would ask you (in turn) to shut your stupid pie-hole, but that would be uncouth. 

Plus, you can't. Because my pecker is in it. 

This is intolerable, please act, thank you.

Also, Buckeye again:
then you probably lack the cognitive ability to differentiate between my dirty asshole, Shinola, a hole in the ground, and the thoughts vomiting from the lowest hole in your face.
In the Trump Fails thread... he's asking to be banned, I sure hope his wish is granted. Soon.
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gohikineko   his pecker was in your mouth?  ..... Duuuuuuude
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Gerry1of1 Not his first penis remark... I suspect he plays on your team Gerry, lolz!
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Male 18,342
gohikineko say that again? I couldn't make out what you were trying to say.
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Male 45,208
gohikineko   Prob'ly on the down low you know what I'm sayin'
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Male 13,153
gohikineko hear hear!
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Female 6,567
gohikineko I didn't see where he asked to be banned.  Mistaken?  Self-edit? :B
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melcervini In a couple of other (less offensive) comments he's told others (Squrlz?) he's just keeping at it until he gets banned :/
Thanks for your help! & the other mods too.
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melcervini It's the way Buckeye is talking. I was under the impression personal attacks are not tolerated here. The pecker thing, the dirty asshole thing...Hell, I'm down for a good debate and I can enjoy a dirty joke, but that's a little too much for here.   
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skypirate i agree, its like they snapped or something. Quite odd.
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skypirate Gotcha.  We're on it. :)
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Male 18,342
gohikineko I'll miss him. He's rude, but goddamn he's funny
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daegog   There have been little kids that made me want to.... but I have not {yet} punched one in the head
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Stolen Joke:

A little girl was leaning into a lion's cage. Suddenly, the lion grabs her by the collar of her jacket and tries to pull her inside to slaughter her, all under the eyes of her screaming parents.
 A biker jumps off his Harley, runs to the cage and hits the lion square on the nose with a powerful punch.

 Whimpering from the pain the lion jumps back letting go of the girl and the biker brings the girl to her terrified parents, who thank him endlessly. A reporter has watched the whole event.

The reporter addressing the Harley rider says, "Sir, this was the most gallant and bravest thing I've seen a man do in my whole life."

The Harley rider replies, "Why, it was nothing, really. The lion was behind bars. I just saw this little kid in danger, and acted as I felt right."

The reporter says, "Well, I'll make sure this won't go unnoticed. I'm a journalist, and tomorrow's paper will have this story on the front page.

So, what do you do for a living, and what political affiliation do you have?" The biker replies "I'm a U.S. Marine, a Republican and I voted for Trump". The journalist leaves.

 The following morning the biker buys the paper to see if it indeed brings news of his actions, and reads, on the front page:

** U.S. MARINE ASSAULTS AFRICAN IMMIGRANT & STEALS HIS LUNCH. **
(bah-dah-tish!)

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I think this is brilliant!
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Male 45,208
broizfam   Ironic, as shredding the original was a statement about commercializing art... so let's make a clothing line out of it!!!!  yeah
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Male 13,134
Gerry1of1 sorta like putting Che on t-shirts.
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holygod Yeah, or holding up Che as a civil rights leader! lol
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Gerry1of1 I'm guessing that someone will get sued over it.
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Male 13,134
oobaka can't. Banksy can't file a lawsuit or claim ownership of a copyright without revealing his identity. People steal his shit all the time. It's kinda sad.
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Male 2,471
holygod Then it's up to the consumer to tell these cunts to stop ripping him off but that will never happen because there are just too many cunts.
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Male 7,120
I heard we had some Overwatch fans here
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daegog I’d buy that for a dollar.
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daegog not sure what Overwatch is, but apparently I’m a fan...
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megrendel Agreed. I thought she was hot before I scrolled down below her neck!
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monkwarrior And that is why UPPERCUTS in streetfighting reign supreme.

Learn how to fight before you get your ass kicked, its a good idea.
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daegog LOL Scrawny Ginger thought he could sucker punch someone.
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Just a thought. Maybe we could have a poetry spot where people can put up favourite or curious poems? Just every now and then. I like poems. Serious ones, silly ones, famous ones, obscure ones.May I start, I've alway liked this one, one of my recitations;

The Rogue's Delight in Praise of his Strolling Mort

| Doxy oh! Thy Glaziers shine
As Glymmar by the Salomon,
No Gentry Mort hath prats like thine
No Cove e're wap'd with such a one.

White thy fambles, red thy gan,
 And thy quarrons dainty is,
 Couch a hogshead with me than,
 In the Darkmans clip and kiss.

What though I no Togeman wear,
 Nor Commission, Mish, or slate,
 Store of strummel wee'l have here.
 And i'th' Skipper lib in state.

Wapping thou I know dost love,
 Else the Ruffin cly thee Mort,
 From thy stampers then remove
 Thy Drawers and let's prig in sport.

When the Lightmans up do's call
 Margery Prater from her nest,
 And her Cackling cheats with all
 In a Boozing-Ken wee'l feast.

There if Lour we want I'l mill
 A Gage or nip for thee a bung,
 Rum booz thou shalt booz thy fill
 And crash a Grunting cheat that's young.

Bing awast to Rome-vile then
 O my dimber wapping Dell,
 Wee'l heave a booth and dock agen
 Then trining scape and all is well. | Wench oh! Thy eyes shine
 As fire by the Mass

And translation...


 No gentlewoman has thighs like thine
 No fellow ever made love with such a one.

White thy hands, red thy mouth,
 And thy body dainty is,
 Lie down with me then,
 In the night embrace and kiss.

What though I no cloak wear,
 Nor shirt, chemise, or sheet,
 Plenty of straw we'll have here.
 And in the barn sleep in state.

Copulating thou I know dost love,
 Else the Devil seize thee, wench,
 From thy feet then remove
 Thy stockings and let's ride in sport.

When the Sun rises and does call
 The hen from her nest,
 And her chickens withal
 In a tippling-house we'll feast.

There if money we want I'll steal
 A pot or nab for thee a purse,
 Excellent liquor thou shalt drink thy fill
 And crunch a pig that's young.

Go away to London then
 O my pretty loving wench,
 We'll rob a house and fuck again
 Then hanging escape and all is well.
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LordJim 

From childhood’s hour I have not been 
As others were—I have not seen 
As others saw—I could not bring 
My passions from a common spring— 
From the same source I have not taken 
My sorrow—I could not awaken 
My heart to joy at the same tone— 
And all I lov’d—I lov’d alone— 
Then—in my childhood—in the dawn 
Of a most stormy life—was drawn 
From ev’ry depth of good and ill 
The mystery which binds me still— 
From the torrent, or the fountain— 
From the red cliff of the mountain— 
From the sun that ’round me roll’d 
In its autumn tint of gold— 
From the lightning in the sky 
As it pass’d me flying by— 
From the thunder, and the storm— 
And the cloud that took the form 
(When the rest of Heaven was blue) 
Of a demon in my view—
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LordJim The poetry I enjoy is more pedestrian:

Hay for the Horses
He had driven half the night
From far down San Joaquin
Through Mariposa, up the
Dangerous Mountain roads,
And pulled in at eight a.m.
With his big truckload of hay
        behind the barn.
With winch and ropes and hooks
We stacked the bales up clean
To splintery redwood rafters
High in the dark, flecks of alfalfa
Whirling through shingle-cracks of light,
Itch of haydust in the 
        sweaty shirt and shoes.
At lunchtime under Black oak
Out in the hot corral,
---The old mare nosing lunchpails,
Grasshoppers crackling in the weeds---
“I’m sixty-eight” he said,
“I first bucked hay when I was seventeen.
I thought, that day I started,
I sure would hate to do this all my life.
And dammit, that’s just what
I’ve gone and done.”

Oregon Winter
by Jeanne McGahey
The rain begins. This is no summer rain, 
Dropping the blotches of wet on the dusty road: 
This rain is slow, without thunder or hurry: 
There is plenty of time – there will be months of rain. 
Lost in the hills, the old gray farmhouses 
Hump their backs against it, and smoke from their chimneys 
Struggles through weighted air. The sky is sodden with water, 
It sags against the hills, and the wild geese. 
Wedge-flying, brush the heaviest cloud with their wings. 
The farmers move unhurried. The wood is in, 
The hay has long been in, the barn lofts piled 

Up to the high windows, dripping yellow straws. 

There will be plenty of time now, time that will smell of fires, 

And drying leather, and catalogues, and apple cores. 
The farmers clean their boots, and whittle, and drowse.

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LordJim 

There once was a rogue from Frisk.
Who’s burglary business was quite brisk.
   He’d hide what was stolen,
   Inside of his colon,
And state, “Hey, it’s my *.”
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megrendel I really can't think of a rhyme that fits. It's starting to bother me, damn you, you have found my weakness.

But the "quite" is redundant. It scans better without.
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Male 10,061
LordJim * - Ass To Risk
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Male 1,778
LordJim "Whisk"?  I ain't using that for scrambled eggs.
"Risk"? 
"ISK"?  Icelandic Kroner - Icelandic currency.  Is Frisk in Iceland, it'd make sense then.

hmmm.  Sorry asterisk is 3 syllables, so doesn't fit the rhythm.
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Male 13,134
LordJim Let give you a hint. That symbol is not a placeholder for another word. It is literally that symbol....
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Male 18,342
LordJim I didn't realise you had Vogon heritage.
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Male 9,134
Draculya Don't tell me "  In the Darkmans clip and kiss." isn't a beautiful line. It's worked for me.

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Male 6,308
Raining toys in a Netherlands stadium. This deserves to be seen.
https://9gag.com/gag/aQRqP42
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Female 6,567
broizfam Good Mel:  That was awesome! :)
BadMel:  Awesome until Teddy knocks the IV out.
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melcervini Damn! I know that scene but can't remember what movie it was.
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melcervini Thank you! I was thinking of something even older. Still thinking.
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Today I learned,  that Cairo hosted The Purge.
The police went on strike for 35 days. So there was no law enforecment whatsoever. With no zoning restrictions in place everyone built houses. During that time violent crime was in an all time low in the city. 
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dm2754 When the cat's away, mice will play.  Except humans aren't mice; they can anticipate the future.  They know there will be repercussions once the cat comes back, so they tend to lay low.  the smart, organized ones anyway.
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melcervini   ha ha    'penis'
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Male 13,153
So when can we expect the new I-A-B rules?
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monkwarrior   You want an IAB New Testament ?
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Male 13,153
Gerry1of1 just interested in what squrlz4ever was talking about the other day

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monkwarrior haven't you been given enough rules already?
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Male 13,153
lockner01 squrlz4ever was talking of new rules, hopefully to prevent people from clogging up threads with little tantrums.
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Male 18,342
monkwarrior wouldn't that get you banned?
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Male 13,153
Draculya nah im good with rules. some people aren't though.
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monkwarrior no you're could at exploiting flaws in rules, which lead to you getting warnings or being banned.
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Male 13,153
lockner01 so you're starting it again.
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monkwarrior No I'm making an observation.  It's been pointed out to you that just because someone replies to you doesn't mean you're being attacked. It's also been suggested that if you don't want people to reply to you ignore them and don't reply back.
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Male 13,153
lockner01 you just hit tantrum mode, as predicted.
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Male 18,342
monkwarrior stop attacking lockner
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Draculya Just predicting and anticipating their responses.
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monkwarrior Is this your attempt at taunting me?  I'm not sure how you can call my response a tantrum.

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lockner01 full tantrum burn at this point
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monkwarrior I don't think you know what that word means.

Tantrum: "an uncontrolled outburst of anger and frustration, typically in a young child."

I making observations calmly.  There is nothing uncontrolled. There is no anger or frustration.

You are clearly trying to taunt me.
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Male 13,153
lockner01 as predicted, the tantrum wastes time and clogs threads with pointless banter.
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Male 18,342
@, monkwarrior is at it again. Please add this to his moderation record.
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Male 2,352
monkwarrior How is what you are doing right now any different than copying and pasting a generic response.  It's an honest question. Could you please answer it?  What is your goal of telling me that I'm throwing a tantrum? What do you hope to achieve?
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Male 13,153
lockner01 There's no point to answering as you continue to clog threads and throw tantrums as predicted, and as you have now demonstrated.
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monkwarrior If there is no point in answering me what is the point replying? It wasn't that long ago you were given a warning by the mods to stop. 
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Male 13,153
lockner01 Thanks for continuing to demonstrate.  Iam perfectly ok if mods want to trim this whole exchange that clogged the OFF.
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monkwarrior Like pasting generic replies?
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Male 13,153
lockner01 no, like what you're doing right now, the beginning of clogging, which 9 times out of 10 leads to your tantrum.
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Male 18,342
monkwarrior you see therein lies the problem. You have a victim complex. You believe other people are in the wrong and you are in the right when you are the very poster child for the kind of person the rules are meant to constrain.
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Male 13,153
Draculya sounds like you have the victim complex.
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monkwarrior see? now that is a ping pong answer. 
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Male 13,153
Draculya what do you expect when you try to project?
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Male 2,352
Did anyone catch the first episode of Titans?
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Male 6,238
anyone see the its always sunny new episode and thei take on the #metoo stuff.
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daegog Social engineering on a Soviet Scale! Maybe close to Mao! Bravo!

Eat less meat? Ok if it's by choice. Taxing meat so poor people cannot afford it? NOT cool.

Busses are highly over-rated, they don't do that much less pollution than car traffic. Who flys a lot? Rich people, but again taxing that would just make it harder for the few times the poor get to fly.

Spend hundreds to save ones? MOST homes in cold areas already have high-efficiency furnaces and thermostats & etc. We have to because it's bloody expensive to heat our homes in winter.

Glibly saying 'just be more efficient' when we (Manitoba) already ARE the most efficient in Canada is asking for the impossible. (Not you being glib, I mean our Boy-Prince Justin eh?)

INDIA AND CHINA will DOUBLE their CO2 by 2030, not reduce it one iota. They 'promise' to 'think about lowering' it after 2030, that's their 'Paris commitment' ok? All of Canada shutting down to 0 wouldn't match their increase, so what realistic solution do you offer? Something that will actually DO something? How about... get China and India to do something and THEN come for the tiny (by comparison) emissions we produce... jeez...
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gohikineko "Taxing meat so poor people cannot afford it? NOT cool."

Yeah, no shit! A solution should not affect different social classes inequitably.

"Busses are highly over-rated, they don't do that much less pollution than car traffic."

You mean the emissions from one bus-load of people is equal to those people all driving cars? You gots data, bro?

"so what realistic solution do you offer? Something that will actually DO something? How about... get China and India to do something and THEN come for the tiny (by comparison) emissions we produce... jeez..."

Nice logic. Well, Susie is shitting her pants, and she shits waaaaay more than me, so I can shit my pants too.

I tried to come up with an analogy that matched the same mental molasses as yours. Did I succeed?
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BuckeyeJoe Busses travel fully loaded all the time? News to me. They also make long trips from their start/stop points entirely empty too, that cuts it some. They are more efficient, yes. But not by much, and far less convenient by any measure. You're taking 3 kids to various activities? Busses do not cut it.

Your dog poops on the street. Mine do too, I have 25 dogs which also poop on the street. You are told to pay a $3000 fine and $1000 a month for keeping the street clean. However, I don't pay anything because I promised to 'lower the poop' by 2030.
Even if you shoot your dog? You still have to pay the fees until 2030, or else. Meanwhile? I'm going to add 2-3 dogs a year who will also poop on the street, effectively doubling the poop there.

That's your solution: that's Paris and the Canadian Carbon Tax's solution too. See how well it works? Perfect fairness! Highly effective in poop reduction, right? (end sarc)
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gohikineko Data or GTFO with your unfounded statements and assertions.

I have no time for wild guesses pulled out of your kitty-asshole. You don't know shit, and you cannot demonstrate otherwise with any data other than the flood of food-processed letters evacuating the lowest hole in your face.
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gohikineko Except you are rich and have 25 dogs.  The folks in China and India are 3 people currently owning 8 dogs each.  
They want to have 12 dogs each but YOU insist that they must stop at 8 dogs before you will consider moving down to 20 dogs.

The only starting point that makes ANY sense whatsoever, is carbon emission targets based on population.
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punko So me doubling my per capita poop emissions and his remaining stable is OK with you? Because that's the whole point of this. Even if he lowered his poop by 25%? It will still practically DOUBLE it will not lower at all. 
Suppose I got rid of 5 dogs: my poop would lower by a whopping 20%! Now how is he supposed to lower the poop of his 1 dog? Feed it 20% less food? THAT is what you're saying here.
But I won't lower my poop output until 2030, I already have a deal with the city: signed and sealed! I'll double my dogs and THEN think about lowering the poop production.
THAT is what the subject is, in no place does it say I'm "rich" ok? That is meaningless. Just because I have 25 dogs in no way is connected to wealth.
By the way: In this I am Mr.China-India and HE is Mr.Canada... in case that wasn't clear... so your 'rich' thing is backwards, but not your fault. In NO WAY did I limit him to any number of dogs: he (Canada) chose that himself.
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punko Nope, that's nonsense. It only matters how many dogs per household there are: not how many people live in that house. Nor does it matter that the house or yard is big or small: only the number of dogs pooping on the street matters, ok? Dog Poop on the street is the issue here: ALL ELSE (except for exactly who pays the fines and fees) is irrelevant.  The 'rules' about how many dogs you're 'allowed' to have are not mentioned AT ALL and thus are an entirely separate subject: off-topic ok? It's just a stated fact: He has 1 dog and I have 25 + another 25 more by 2030. HE pays fines and fees for the poop but I do not. Keep it simple, [email protected]! :-)

The atmosphere doesn't care how many 'per capita' it ONLY cares about gross tonnage by the entire human race. (Says AGW) It also doesn't care what nation it comes from, but that's how we humans divide responsibility.
If lowering on a per capita basis works well? That's great! BUT Canada is already extremely efficient: expecting us to lower CO2 per capita OR on tonnage % while China and India deliberately DOUBLE total output (thus their per capita also btw) is insanity defined.

So your argument is: they have every right to massively increase CO2 and WE have to pay for it. Well how is that reasonable in any way? Either the CO2 is going to BURN THE WORLD or it isn't. Either the TOTAL produced by humans drops or we all die, right? So letting them double and we ruin our economies buy lowering a meaningless % solves what? Nothing. The human total will still rocket upwards, they'll be rich and we'll be bankrupt. Then the world will end anyhow. Nice!

Is that your actual goal here? Then kindly come right out and say so, ok? Stop hiding behind the guile and propaganda already: wealth redistribution to make the prosperous people poor and the backwards people rich.
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gohikineko Bullshit.  North Americans are the most wasteful (in terms of energy use and waste generation per capita) in the world.  If the rest of the world used energy and pollutes like we do, we'd be far, far more fucked than we already are.

What I am saying is simple:  You pay for what you use.  Not subsidies.  In our example, each person in Canada has 25 dogs.  each person in developing countries have 8 dogs.  If they double their number of dogs, it is still 16 dogs per person.  WE still have 25 dogs.  

You say that letting them double their dogs is terrible for the planet.  I do agree.  However, there is no fucking way you can demand that folks do not enjoy the number of dogs they have, just because the number of dogs is too high, while you have more.

the number of dog-years(in this example) of damage caused by NA ownership will take a long time to catch up.  At the same time, they are still doubling by 2030 and will still be 2/3 where we are.  They pollute less.  They use energy less per person than we do.  We are more wasteful, and thus have greater ability to reduce our waste.

Can we help them NOT to exceed 20 dogs?  Yes, we have experience and together we have modern technology to avoid coal smog, acid rain, mercury poisoning, flourocarbons, PCB's, dioxins, etc.  Maybe they still have a 'love canal' in their future. 

What right or moral high ground do we hold to demand that India and China hold their much-lower per capita dog ownership, so that we can continue to have unsustainable high ownership (In this fictional example) ?  If the sustainable number of dogs is (say) 18 per capital worldwide, then that should be the world-wide target.  We must reduce per capita.

I completely agree that there is a limit to (in this fictional case) dog ownership for the planet; however, the planet does not care about international boundaries.  It only cares about the total dog numbers.  If we expect everyone to adjust to this reality, we cannot demand that others hold low, just so we can continue to live high.

As my great grandmother taught all of us through the ages - it is not the high cost of living, it is the cost of living high.

We in North America have indeed lived high.  And we are living higher still.
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punko Once again: Canada has a very efficient energy system. In terms of 'greenhouse gasses' ok? That evil CO2. We produce a LOT of agriculture and oil, those are inherently 'dirty' and nothing can be done about that. We're a big nation so transportation is always dirtier than tiny ones. And it's cold here, we have to heat our houses unlike (for example) Africa. We are already taxed at over 50% of our income, especially the poor.
Where is the 'lowering' going to come from?

You have it backwards: Canada has 1 dog, India-China have 25. Canada pays fines and fees but they do not. That is reality: we (Canada) are being told to gut our economy to 'save the planet!' while they will DOUBLE their output without a word cross-wise.
I am not talking about Togo, America or Chad, I am talking about 3 nations only. Specifically the way India and China WILL double their CO2 by design, on purpose.

Both India and China produce more CO2 than us (Canada) already, without the doubling that is to come.
https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/images/2017/11/gw-graphic-pie-chart-co2-emissions-by-country-2015.png

I exaggerate slightly: India-China have only 15 dogs ;-), but the point is identical: they double and pay nothing. We are told to reduce AND pay for their dogs too.

We have NO RIGHT to tell other nations how to run their governments and economies. YOU go tell China what to do, send a postcard when you finish eh? They are doing so by installing hundreds of new coal-fired power stations. 1 per week in China and 1 every 10-12 days in India. They've been at it for years and will keep adding until 2030 (roughly) and just try to stop them! Lolz!  About 65% of China's electricity comes from coal, and dirty coal at that. It's their choice, and we are expected to pay for it? Why?

Per-capita still has absolutely nothing to do with it. It is a meaningless number: total pollution is the only thing that matters, you even say that too. Theirs is 15X ours (Canada) and rising fast.

Dragging us down to into poverty is called socialism: I don't think that's a very good idea, ok?
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gohikineko  Per-capita still has absolutely nothing to do with it. It is a meaningless number: total pollution is the only thing that matters, you even say that too. Theirs is 15X ours (Canada) and rising fast. 

OMG. where to start.

Lets go with your numbers. (and lets even just focus on CO2 from fuel combustion).

Canada 2%

India 6&
China 28%

roughly 1:17

They are generating 17 x  Canada in total generation of CO2 from fuel combustion.

Their population is 2.7B people (2018) to 0.036B people in Can. That is 75 times our population.

the earth doesn't give two shits about political affiliations or national boundaries.  Hell, it doesn't give two shits about humans either.

But we do.

Right now, we produce 1/17th the pollution that they do, while only numbering 1/75th as many humans.  Individual Humans here are responsible for nearly 5 x as much CO2 as individual humans there.

If they double and then double again those humans would still produce less CO2 than humans here.

Collectively, they produce more than we do.  Without a doubt.  

You say "dragging us down into poverty is called socialism".  I won't even tell you how far that is from the truth. But it shows that you truly dislike collectivism and support individualism.

OK then, collectively, they produce 17 x more than than us, but individually we produce 5 x as much as them.

So, are you willing to defend your personal 5 x greater individual responsibility for the pollution you are generating?

We are gloriously living high on the hog.  These populations of humans are moving out of individual poverty toward our standard of living.  They have a long way to go to get here.  So far, in fact, that it would take (assuming CO2 generation is directly related to quality of life - an interesting notion) a five fold increase to match us.

I completely agree that it is in the world's best interest that the populations in China and India should do their best not to match the per capita wasteful lives that we lead.  You talk about changing our way of life as being dragged back to the stone age.  Did our economy collapse when we removed sulfur from gasoline?  When we changed the refrigerants we use?  When we stopped using PCBs in transformers, DDT in pesticides, or poorly combusting fuel and generating dioxins? Did the economy collapse switching light bulb types? Did driving more fuel efficient cars cause the apocalypse?

Do you honestly believe that having some form of carbon tax would tear down the economies of the G7? 

I will not stand by while you wash your car down with a hose and demand that your neighbor, who is cleaning a bicycle with a bucket and sponge, stop wasting water.






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punko Ok, once more for the record: per capita is MEANINGLESS. Not for CO2 in the atmosphere. The ONLY thing that counts is TOTAL HUMAN OUTPUT and nothing else. So just stop beating that horse, it's long dead.

If we were discussing ways to reduce? Then 'per capita' can come into the equation BUT WE ARE NOT. Neither is 'personal responsibility' a part of any of this, it's about who is doing the polluting (India and China) and who is being forced to pay for that (Canada) on a national level.

If you want to talk about things entirely different than my example? Then resolve my topic first, then move to other topics politely. Simply saying I'm wrong about X then yelling at me about Y and Z doesn't resolve X in the slightest, ok? It's rude.

The issue: We are being forced to pay for China and India's ever-increasing CO2 pollution, and that's a fact. We are told to reduce MASSIVELY while they are free to double their total output, and thus burn the entire world to death, right?

They are the ones using a fire-hose to wash their car and it's hooked up to our water meter while the politicians lecture us on water conservation... and increase the water bill by 400%. (Nope not joking, my water bill has gone up 400% in only 10 years: almost all of it "fixed fees" that cannot be reduced at all through conservation. Same amount of water costs 4X as much). 
They will add another hose by 2030 and we're supposed to lower our water use to cover THAT also... it's physically impossible, ok?
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gohikineko Yikes. Just plain yikes.

If india and China have been doubling their output regularly and have only just recently surpassed the CO2 generation of the 1st world,  who did all the polluting over the last 75 years? So who should be paying for it now? Them?

Canada is being asked to stop increasing, and to reduce to the levels they were putting out less than 2 decades ago. That is not MASSIVELY.

We have been raping the planet for decades. Now, when the world leaders have finally started to listen you are bitching because folks who are still forging metal barefoot are starting to approach 1/4 the level of pollution you and I are putting out now?

We have exceeded our share, we are being asked to cut back. how is this hard to understand?

The total amount of pollution will continue to rise. we are 7B now, and the population will continue to rise to 11B.  We, of the richest nations of the world and the greatest individual sources of pollution need to be the first to reduce.  Our economies are advanced enough to make this happen. 3rd world countries cannot until the necessary advances in public perception, technological advancement, and political leadership are in place.

We need to be the point of the spear.  Sticking our heads in the sand waiting for the tide to come in is suicide.
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punko China currently leads the entire world in CO2. That is all that matters now. Their output doubling while the rest of the world (Except India!) are told to cut by HALF is explained because... white people are to blame? Really?

50% is not 'cutback' it is throat-slitting. Take away ALL of Canada's agriculture AND all it's oil and I don't think that's 50% of CO2... but it's goodbye economy! For example.

50% is the newest horror-number from the UN. Even the idiotic and impossible Paris isn't going to happen. It would totally destroy the economy of Canada, not just cripple it.

Our share is 2% that is not inappropriate for our economic power. China and India add up to 34%. Where is our share greater than theirs I ask? When did 2 become larger than 34? Again: per capita is MEANINGLESS. When that number exceeds 50%? What will you say then? It's still "white people to blame"? White people must pay? Seriously now?

Here: Some facts in graph form:
https://www.nccs.gov.sg/images/default-source/default-album/carbon-intensity-emissions-per-gdp.jpg

They forge that particular knife that way because of tradition and necessity: deliberately using ancient methods. Just like European Blacksmiths used coal & anvils back in the day. It's an art form.

Allowing China and India to rampage with Coal-fired power NOW will be impossible to turn back for 40-50 years, ok? Those plants will pump out CO2 the whole time they are in operation. LYING to Canadians and saying our TINY emission cuts will save the planet is just that: a lie. It is a tax-grab and wealth redistribution by force.
Canada could END CO2 entirely and it wouldn't make a spit of difference. The actual ones producing the most are the ones who MUST REDUCE and NOT DOUBLE their output! The USA is leading the world in lowering their output, what do you have to say about that, eh?

Oh: Thanks for being polite and (mostly) on-topic! I do see your POV but I think it's completely irrelevant in this particular situation. For other things related? Maybe, but not total CO2 output. Otherwise Qatar (iirc) is the #1 polluter (per capita) in the world (by FAR!) and we should all go after their 0.002% of total production... nope just not smart.
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  • No
  • No bus goes where I need it to and no train I see anywhere close.
  • It stays where I choose it to.
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daegog someone sees through the western media delusion
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daegog Now THAT is a quality post/comment! Bravo!
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Huh. Slow start to the party. Lately we've been hitting 100 comments before 12:00 AM EDT.
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squrlz4ever Hey I'm on call this week and next, some of us have to work here!

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Looking forward to a lie-in tomorrow
and a restful weekend.

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WARNING DON"T LOOK!

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monkwarrior Should have just posted a link with a content warning... that's not a nice comment and ought to be removed dude... hopefully you'll do so yourself, and soon.
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monkwarrior Such illusions cause bad things for some people with various disorders. There's no way to NOT see it when you post it like this.

If you just provided a link, not the image? They could safely scroll down without, you know, having a seizure or migraine as a result, ok? You put a 'seizure warning' on the link or something so people are, you know, warned!
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monkwarrior thanks for the migrane dickbag
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rumham He did warn you. I, of course, am still stuck looking at it!
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rumham if i were a mod i would have change that to:

monkwarrior thanks for the migrane [deleted personal attack]
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rumham heh heh "dickbag"
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Draculya  if i were a mod i would have change that to: 

rumham heh heh  [deleted personal attack] 
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Hey, [deleted personal attack]! How about you [deleted insult] and [deleted insult], you [deleted personal attack]. Got it?!
Stop telling the mods how to do their job! 
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boredhuman hear hear! He's guilty of every abuse he projects onto others, publishing community guidelines only made it much worse. It's his way of trolling.
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boredhuman No where was i telling or addressing any mod about 'how to do their job'.  I was simply replying to both rumham and Dracula saying that if i were a mod (i'm not), that i would have changed it to that. 

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No where did I insult or attack you. I was simply replying to your comment. 
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boredhuman I thought you were reciting poetry.
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boredhuman i never said you did, i was simply replying to your comment.
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Draculya RichardPocket
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rumham Not gonna lie, As a rule I always upvote runham lol.
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rumham that's probably his real name.
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So last Monday was my birthday. 
This is the card my husband gave me

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Gerry1of1 congratulations on making one more trip around the sun.
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megrendel   I'm not sure but I think comparing me to bacon makes me fat ????
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Gerry1of1 Happy belated level-up day!
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daegog   I want this to be true
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daegog I actually follow the puffins on Seal island, have done since the first year of live Puffin Burrow Cam (which I posted here, also a later year too).
They aren't THAT social, lolz! The decoy often gets beat up, it's acting rude by not returning their greetings or something. Still, they are friendly birds, it's called a 'Loafing Ledge' and they frequently gather there :-)

Link: (It's off season, the puffling fledged successfully but they have videos and stuff)
https://explore.org/livecams/puffins/puffin-boulder-berm-cam

Lots of other live cams, and plenty of info about the project there.
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melcervini it doesn't work with whispering 
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monkwarrior What doesn't?
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Gerry1of1 differentiating between Your and You're when speaking or whispering.
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monkwarrior It sounds different when we Western Canadians say it.
Your = yor
You're = yu r (two syllables)
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monkwarrior Ooh lol  In the south it could.  "Yer" = Your  "Yore" = You're :D
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melcervini fair enough
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melcervini and again fucking migrane
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I’m at the National Shrimp Festival in Gulf Shores Alabama with my youngest. 30 is young at my age believe me. We are going to chow on tasty crustaceans in every form we can think of and then maybe have some more. Details to follow.
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scheckydamon I get hungry every time I read your comment
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Draculya So we’re back and while it was a nice festival the food was a bit of a disappointment. We had gator on a stick that had less than an oz of meat on it for $15. I’m from Florida and I’ve done whole gators before. We had some conch fritters that were very good with lots of conch in it. The low country boil was good too. That’s boiled shrimp, corn on the cob and potatoes. The food vendors were like carnival vendors and no local ones. The local restaurants were great however. I had a crusted triggerfish fillet the night before that was amazing.
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megrendel https://i.imgur.com/ivM8dZB.gif

Probably nsfw? Or if wives or girlfriends are looking... lolz!
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gohikineko if that bothers your wife or girlfriend get a different wife or girlfriend. My wife thinks she's cute.
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holygod Some people (both genders) are just more jealous / less secure than others :/

I think it's different if you say "Hey honey, come see this funny thing!" or if she walks by and sees it on your screen, eh? Same for bosses... lolz!

Anyhow, that's why I added the 'possibly' part, it's not technically p0rn or anything.
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megrendel   Can't see it & I tried the advice blow.   Imgur doesn't like to link to IAB
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megrendel repost this one megrendel, im just getting the little black box.
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daegog I’m still getting a little black box...
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daegog Right click it, Open Image in new tab, if it asks to reload, reload.

The reason you can't see it is because it's not cached for you.
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DuckBoy87 Yeah, that worked for me, worth the time indeed.
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DuckBoy87 Totally worth the effort.  :)
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So it turns out that erasing your fingerprints à la Men in Black isn't all that painful (beyond the initial contact with a hot soldering iron), and really temporary.
(Accidental, and only one finger; I still have most of my marbles)
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elgabalo I lost my right thumb print and was unable to use the fast channel at the airport, pay for things and get access to a system where I couldn't reregister my thumb. About a year later, I applied for a replacement ID card and the system wouldn't accept the change. The immigration guy was talking about asking for additional documents to confirm my identity, but I pointed out my left thumb print was recognized by the system. It took many tries before the system found enough of my former print to accept I was still me.
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Draculya eek, sounds like it must've been something serious. And while I was giggling at the fact my phone couldn't read my fingerprint, I didn't think about how it could be an issue with the growing use of biometrics.
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elgabalo The acid in pineapple juice will remove your finger prints over time.
Sand them down then regularly dip in pineapple juice.
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Gerry1of1 have you done this?
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monkwarrior No, I saw it on an episode of Hawaii Five O...back in the 70s.
Pineapple workers didn't leave fingerprints, but they caught the guy anyway.
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holygod people are saying this isn't true

https://youtu.be/U7eLBwCAwmo


This is an interesting video because it shows how it's not true but also shows how Stephen fry is easily swayed by lies without actual doing any testing.
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monkwarrior   Speaking of "easily swayed".  You saw one amateur do a home experiment and now you're convinced the opposite is true.  You also only saw
Fry say one sentence, not the rest of the information but you've judged him to 
be easily swayed.  

Come on monk, you're smarter than this.

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Gerry1of1 i looked more and found out it's not true... eg: https://theuijunkie.com/pineapples-bromelain-fingerprints/


Any real links to show it's true?
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monkwarrior   Of course it's not true. Not in the sense it erases finger prints. But pineapple workers, with regular small exposure to the stuff do have faded finger prints. Hawaii 50 just exaggerated it a bit.  I can't believe you took any of it so serious to make this much discussion about it.
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Gerry1of1 so you lied when you said " The acid in pineapple juice will remove your finger prints over time.
Sand them down then regularly dip in pineapple juice. "

I'm disappointed in you 
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monkwarrior No, it does over time.... a lot of time, years. You can't do it in a week like the guy in your video.
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Gerry1of1 but others are saying the finger print is still there, even over time.
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Gerry1of1 interesting, and the Hawaiian cop shows are making a "comeback"
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elgabalo Omigosh, Elgabalo. So sorry to hear this. I would've thought that would hurt like a son of gun. Lotsa nerve endings in a hooman fingertip.
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squrlz4ever the palms of the hands and soles of the feet have always impressed me with how they deal with minor injuries. Though sensitive, the pain usually isn't persistent, inflammation is limited, the skin is fantastically thick (while gross, decent cuts to the bottom of the foot leave you wondering when the non-skin parts of the foot start) and there's usually limited impact on function (again, for minor injuries).
So all in all, a little ouch, and plenty of "cool, I can commit anonymous index finger crimes now".
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elgabalo hmm, on second thought, lemme go count those marbles.
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daegog Another nice post/comment. Very informative to see it in action.
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Today I seen the spot where it is believed Moses was discovered floating on the Nile.

I also seen the cave Jesus the Christ & the virgin Mary sheltered in.
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Scientology has invaded Detroit!  As if we didn't have enough damned problems, oh well might as well get my Thetan Levels checked, see how many anguished dead souls I'm carrying around

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I'm just sitting at home binging on bad food wondering how many
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RIDDLE HERE:  HELP ME OUT FOLKS

Cherry’s lottery ball: There are nine shiny new lottery balls in a lottery machine. They are numbered 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. The machine dispenses one lottery ball to each of three people. Apple, Bean and Cherry. Each person knows only the number of their own ball. They do not know the numbers of the balls that the others were given. Nor do they know which numbers were left in the machine.

Before the game begins, each of them show their ball to a fourth person, Zog. Zog then says, “One of the balls is a number that is the sum of the numbers on the other two balls.”

At which point the following conversation ensues….

Apple: “There are 8 possibilities for Bean’s lottery ball.”Bean: “There are 8 possibilities for Cherry’s lottery ball.”Cherry: “There are 4 possibilities for Apple’s lottery ball.”Apple: “I know Bean’s lottery ball!”Bean: “I know Cherry’s lottery ball!”

Question: What is Cherry's lottery ball?
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daegog

Apple: There are 8 possibilities for Bean’s lottery ball.
Apple is signifying which options her ball could be.
By saying there are 8 possibilities she is saying her ball is not 8 or 4.
If her ball was 9 it would obviously be the sum ball and the other two balls would have to be 8 and 1, 7 and 2, 6 and 3, or 5 and 4, so all 8 possibilities.
If her ball was 8 she could be the sum ball and the other two could be 7 and 1, 6 and 2, 5 and 3 OR it could be part of the equation with 1 to equal 9, so only 7 possibilities. In no scenario can another ball be 4 if her ball is 8.
If her ball was 7 she could be the sum ball and the other two could be 6 and 1, 5 and 2, 4 and 3 OR it could be part of the equation with 1 to equal 8, or 2 to equal 9, so all 8 possibilities.
If her ball was 6 she could be the sum ball and the other two could be 5 and 1, 4 and 2, OR it could be part of the equation with 1 to equal 7, or 2 to equal 8, or 3 to equal 9, so all 8 possibilities.
If her ball was 5 she could be the sum ball and the other two could be 4 and 1, 3 and 2, OR it could be part of the equation with 1 to equal 6, or 2 to equal 7, or 3 to equal 8, or 4 to equal 9 so all 8 possibilities.
If her ball was 4 she could be the sum ball and the other two could be 1 and 3 OR it could be part of the equation with 1 to equal 4, or 2 to equal 6, or 3 to equal 7, or 5 to equal 9, so only 7 possibilities. In no scenario can another ball be 8 if her ball is 4.
If her ball was 3 she could be the sum ball and the other two could be 2 and 1, OR it could be part of the equation with 1 to equal 4, or 2 to equal 5, or 4 to equal 7, or 5 to equal 8, or 6 to equal 9, so all 8 possibilities.
If her ball was 2 it would obviously be part of the equation with 1 to equal 3, or 3 to equal 5, or 4 to equal 6, or 5 to equal 7, or 6 to equal 8, or 7 to qual 9, so all 8 possibilities.
If her ball was 1 it would obviously be part of the equation with 2 to equal 3, or 3 to equal 4, or 4 to equal 5, or 5 to equal 6, or 6 to equal 7, or 7 to qual 8, or 8 to equal 9, so all 8 possibilities.

Bean: There are 8 possibilities for Cherry’s lottery ball.
Ditto to above. He is saying his ball is not 4 or 8.

Cherry: There are 4 possibilities for Apple’s lottery ball.
Cherry now knows Apple's and Bean's balls are not 4 or 8.
If she had a 4 or 8 then the other two would have 7 options not her 4 or 8 and not the corresponding 4 or 8.
However, she says 4 possibilities so now we know SHE dosen't have a 4 or 8, so there in no 4 or 8.
The combos available then are 1+2=3, 1+5=6, 1+6=7, 2+3=5, 2+5=7, 2+7=9, 3+6=9
If she had a 1 the other two balls could be 2,3 or 5,6 or 6,7 so 5 options
If she had a 2 the other two balls could be 1,3 or 3,5 or 5,7 or 7,9 so 5 options
If she had a 3 the other two balls could be 1,2 or 2,5 or 6,9 so 5 options
If she had a 5 the other two balls could be 1,6 or 2,3 or 2,7 so 5 options
If she had a 6 the other two balls could be 1,5 or 1,7 or 3,9 so 5 options
If she had a 7 the other two balls could be 1,6 or 2,5 or 2,9 so 5 options
If she had a 9 the other two balls could be 2,7 or 3,6 so only 4 options
So now Apple and Bean know Cherry has a 9.

Apple: I know Bean’s lottery ball.
Since she knows Cherry has a 9, 9 - her ball is Bean's ball.

Bean: I know Cherry’s lottery ball!
Since he knows Cherry has a 9, 9 - his ball is Apple's ball.

Thanks for allowing me to procrastinate. I'm supposed to be doing PPT right now.
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holygod That looks right, but I will be damned, I just seem to be missing something with the 8 and 4 concept.

I get that there is no 4+4..  What I think im missing is why isn't the same logic applied to 6 and 4?
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daegog 

If her ball is 8 then neither of the other balls can be 4.
X + 4 = 8 can't work because X is 4 and there is only one 4.
4 + 8 = X can't work because X is 12 and the balls only go up to 9.

Identically, if her ball is 4 then neither of the other balls can be 8.
X + 4 = 8 can't work because X is 4 and there is only one 4.
4 + 8 = X can't work because X is 12 and the balls only go up to 9.

I think what you mean is why isn't the same logic applied to 6 and 3?

Well it is true that for similar reasons X + 3 = 6 can't work because X is 3 and there is only one 3.

However, 3 + 6 = X works perfectly fine because X is 9 and the balls go up to 9.

So if you have a 3 there could be a 6 and a 9 just like if you have a 6 there could be a 3 and a 9.
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daegog lol this is hilarious, i've had a shit day but this made me feel happy for a moment
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daegog LOL! This one took me longer than it should have.

If anyone's still puzzling over this, the unspoken dialogue is, "DAAAYYYYYUM!"
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OK. Plenty of economists will tell you that unless presidents do something incredibly significant, the economy in their first year is more affected by their predecessor than by them. It takes a year for their budgets and policies to take hold.

1 year after Trump took office the DOW was at 26,214.

Today, 10 months later, it is at 25,085.

Now the stock market isn't the only important economic indicator, but it is a pretty good one.

Please tell me again what a master Trump is......
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holygod if the theory holds true and the first year was Obama's momentum, then the Dow will break the trend support line and the next peak will confirm below as an indication that trade related woes are beginning to bite.
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daegog but but but, it's the Chinese who are paying the tariffs, right?
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DuckBoy87 Veal is like having a young girlfriend. It's attractive but it's really expensive and boring.
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lockner01 also the perfect culinary base to showcase your  sauce.
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Draculya over the veal or the young girlfriend?
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woodyville06 the sauce sloshes both ways
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woodyville06 "over the veal or the young girlfriend?"
depends on your sauce
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Draculya Don't get me wrong -- I have no problem with veal if it's raised properly. 
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lockner01 And chances are somebody will give you crap for having it.
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DuckBoy87    We must do a taste test to be sure.
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Gerry1of1 You have to draw the line somewhere, but then it's all relative.

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megrendel   Where's the lamb?  Baby animals are tasty.
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What to call the last move?  I hereby proclaim it is the full contact crotch bounce.
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muert Boinnnnng!  Note: That wasn't the sound of the gymnast bouncing off the mat. It was something else. Which I won't identify.
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FRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!

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The women have been putting the Artistic back into Artistic gymnastics over the last decade, and it's about damn time. The rhythm stuff is more artsy, and has never had wide appeal. Like, in my state the artistic gymnasts compete in Everett's local stadium. The artistic gymnasts are hosted by the community college.

Male gymnasts are amazing, but not that experimental. The women are the real show. A few years ago it was known... KNOWN... That a woman would never land a triple tuck on the vault in competition. Now not only are they doing it, but they're adding half and full twists. Every 4 years they do something that was assumed to be impossible in the last Olympics.

They are the closest thing we have to superheroes. Three flips, and somehow I land on my feet? No... That's impossible. But they do it every day. How fantastic is that?
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Precisely much horse laxative would be required to spike an entire middle school's lemonade supply?
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Draculya ipecac would be easier to spike lemonade, since it is already in liquid form. And  it does have a overtly sugary taste to it. But with laxative, depending on the amount of people there is, i would say about 6-7 bottles of liquid laxative per 50 people
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Draculya This is going to seem like an INCREDIBLY random question to anyone that hasn't seen the previous post.
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Draculya I don't think I'll be asking that question of my local vet.
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Gotta love Ozzy Man.
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Happy Friday Everyone!  I usually miss these threads as they start at the end of the day for me and I get home and zonk for the weekend!  Thought I'd make an effort to say 'Hi!' this time...
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wibble4321 Thanks, Wibble. Happy Friday to you, too! Nice of you to drop in, despite the late hour your on your end. Hope to see you in here over the weekend. :)
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