A Song For Rapists, Molesters, And Guys With Busy Hands

Submitted by: fancylad 2 months ago in News & Politics


Everyone else, just enjoy the tune.
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I've only dated one person in my life. Never laid a hand on any woman other than her. Everything was consensual.  I have no experience and have not seen this type of thing happen anywhere. I've never witnessed it. Never heard of it happening to my friends or family.
I've also been rejected many times.
Then there was that one crazy chick I met who called the cops on me for no reason. Then after I signed a no contact order she called me up constantly, ultimately with me having to block her number. Never put a hand on her. Was my roommates girlfriend. She constantly flirted with me and I constantly ignored it. Then she offered to set me up with her friend and made promises of a three way. The date and the three way never happened. I don't betray my friends for pussy.
In my experience I have been very patient with women and have not harassed or hurt any of them.

Mostly at this point, with what is going on, I pretty much avoid most women and keep to myself. I'd rather not take risks.

 So when someone posts crap like this I do not really care. Maybe these girls should make an effort to surround themselves with safe people. Instead of finding 15% of men who are assholes and provoking them and getting into trouble.
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bill_watson Shit man. You opened up with a whole lot of pain there and I want to acknowledge that bravery. You are not alone. Most of us (all of us?) carry shit with us...our demons. For example, I have a tiny pecker. Really absurdly small. So it fucks my head up all the time, every day, it seems. Even though I am easy on the eyes -- probably good looking as judged by usual standards, all that does is frustrates. Because I know the inevitable conclusion: like throwing a sausage down a corridor.

I do not blame you one bit for not caring, justice is not fairly distributed. Pain felt by another does not fix pain felt by you. Trust me, I know.

But it also does not invalidate the original pain. This is a man-dominated world, and that has consequences. Maybe not caused by you or me, but consequences that still exist. These girls out there are getting fucked without consent. And although some dumb bitches take advantage of that shit -- and run with fraudulent claims, there are still girls out there getting ruined.

And we, as men, need to acknowledge this. Because it is fucked up. We need to stand up for them, even if we are hurt. Because it's the right thing to do. And because we are strong enough to do so. 
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BuckeyeJoe eh, one girl calling the cops on a guy for no reason isn't really something new that many men haven't experienced.
What I am saying is, I have never seen or experienced a single event in my life that has happened where a women was raped. My experiences with women equate to them over reacting and lying. 
I was working as a greeter at a restaurant. A hostess was working the front door of an adjacent restaurant (on a cruise ship). I hardly looked at her, I said nothing to her and I didn't go anywhere near her. I just did my job and greeted passengers as they entered. Later that night I got talked to by like 5 other coworkers and my boss because she complained that I made her uncomfortable. Like somehow I was harassing her just by existing. I could have lost my job over nothing.
I doubt any and every claim made by any woman until valid proof presents itself.
Given that I have not seen or been around a culture of depraved men who rape women for fun given the fact that I've traveled to three different countries and all across the U.S. I would say that these events while unfortunate happen to less than 5%.
Bad people exists, people are murdered and killed everyday. the people who die the most horrific and brutal deaths in the world are probably men in war and people in poverty. On the grand scale of things someone being sexually attracted to you and not knowing how to control it isn't that big of a deal.
I am sorry these girls are popular and people like them. I am sorry they have to protect themselves from weirdos. But I don't care anymore about their problems than I do anyone else.  All this movement means is that I have to protect myself from malicious bitches who might make a problem for no reason just to get attention.


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bill_watson

5%...based on your feelings or impression. Let's look at research:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1744-6570.2003.tb00752.x

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1207/s15327876mp1103_3

https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.89.3.358

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0145213490900777

Try >25%. One in four. Is there any surprise that women are hyper-sensitive when over a quarter of the women they know have experienced this?

Almost EVERY woman I know has either been sexually harassed or assaulted. It is most likely the case that it is under-reported.

That is not an dismissable problem. That is an epidemic.

It is outrageous that you make their sexual assault about you. How it victimizes you.

I will track down a violin to play in homage to the inconvenience you experience for having to make sure you watch your behavior around women.

At least you're not worrying about being sexually assaulted.

Jesus.
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bill_watson I'm 6'6" tall. I hit my head on regular door frames, have trouble finding clothes that fit my broad shoulders, hotel beds don't fit me, long-haul flights are murder and I must ensure that I don't get a window seat because the curvature of the plane is actually a problem.

Therefore all people hit their heads on regular door frames, have trouble finding clothes to fit their shoulders, find hotel beds don't fit them, and have to avoid the window seat on flights.
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bill_watson I suspect your experience may not be typical.
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It's really sad that modern feminism has taught her that she can't do any of those things. She literally can and is no more likely to get assaulted than anyone else. 

Except leaving the drink alone. No one should do that. 
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John Heller Here's a thought. Let's suppose you have a daughter who, at 17, is working a few nights as a waitress to save up money for college. She gets the last bus home and has a long, dark lane to walk up. You would meet the bus, wouldn't you?

But if you were in town having a couple of pints and got the last bus home, would you expect her to meet you?

What's the difference?

that modern feminism has taught her 

No, the realities of life.

Here's another thought; remember when you were young, at a house party and one of the girls who lived ten minutes away decided it was time to leave? Wasn't it normal for a bloke to volunteer to walk her home? OK, he was probably trying to make points but certainly in my social circle you kept an eye open for your female friends.

But I don't recall any lassy escorting a bloke back safely. Is that strange to you?
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Male 13,270
This is an interesting dichotomy. On the one hand it is a powerful and clever feministic song empowering women. On the other hand it probably would never have gone viral if she wasn't a cute girl with a good smile.
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Male 2,341
holygod the face didn’t hurt, but what carried it was a great voice and perfectly applicable lyrics.
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"can't have an apartment on the first floor" was a bit confusing at first, because here in Aus we use that stupid British system where the first floor is the floor above ground floor...
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Male 13,270
She went form getting a few likes once in a while to 50,000 followers over night. Good for her. Smart and funny song. 
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Male 13,270
This song would be a lot better if her tits were bigger.

Wait. Is this what she's talking about?

Shit.
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Male 2,341
holygod is your last name Weinstein?
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Male 7,263
holygod  tits  ass cheeks*  

Fixed it for ya
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Male 9,313
Just a thought. I'm know most people here are honest.

Of the female friends you have, and know, and trust over the years; how many do you believe have been sexually assaulted at a serious level?

Of the male friends you have, and know, and trust over the years; how many do you believe have been falsely accused of sexual assault?

Not stories, only those people.

I'm getting 8:0
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LordJim now legitimate claims; my cousin has committed many rapes but those where men so no one cares.  
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LordJim I volunteered at a rape crisis center/halfway house for a couple of summers and out of around every 20 women who came to us for help, 2-3 were found out to have made up the story for whatever reason.. jealousy, drunk-regret, revenge, or just a psychonutjob.  In that sense we came to know some falsely accused and I knew a couple in the Marines, but most recently an ex coworker had an affair and when she was found out she immediately cried 'rape'.  The dude was incensed and confronted her in front of her husband (and god and everyone at the store) and made her tell the truth, which she admitted to lying.

I also knew several women over the years that have flat out lied about being harassed/raped.  For a time, I had 2 roommates in the barracks and one had gotten dumped and was all upset etc.  The other roommate said, and I quote. "Maybe YOU broke up with HIM because he raped you?"  the other roommate immediately perked up with "Yeah!"   I ratted them both out before they could make the charges so when she DID come forward it had already been investigated and found that the dumbass picked a date where he was on 24 hour duty on the other side of the base.  Accuser was given a dishonorable discharge and roommate 2 an administrative discharge.

That's why, even as a rape-survivor myself, don't automatically take anyone's word at face-value.  Human beings suck.
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melcervini you made it a couple of years that's impressive. I only made it a little over a week. After a week I wanted to beat a few of these women myself. The job doesn't seem to be so much protecting the women from the dangerous men. It was protecting the women from themselves  
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monkwarrior I did specify that they had to be old friends that you trust, not cases. In the end, that's what matters.
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LordJim crap.... you did, apologies for blowing past that >< .

*but to better/actually answer, I'd say I've personally known 2 raped/forced, at least 6-10 assaulted in one way or another that didn't involve violence or penetration.  3 false-accusers, and 3 accusees, one wasn't the 'roommates' one, I didn't know the guy. 
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melcervini How many of those went through a legal process? And recorded?
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LordJim 1 of the forced went forward and because she had zero evidence, they couldn't prosecute and I have no doubts she was raped.  The rapist was finally run out of town (he kept falling down stairs for some reason) and was nailed in another city for attempted kidnapping and got 30 to life.

Of the assaults, I want to say 2 maybe 3 came forward and only one ended up being able to prove her case enough to bring it to trial, but for the life of me I can't remember the verdict, but I do remember that the charges were reduced and he did some time.
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LordJim Four female friends of mine were assaulted, one guy friend was falsely accused. All of these were separate cases.
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LordJim 
assaulted  1
falsely accused of assault 5
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Male 7,263
dm2754 Not a single person reading that believes it, not even you.
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Male 9,313
 dm2754When i said most of us were honest I obviously wasn't including you.
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LordJim Not cool.  You can't ask a question and then discount people because you don't like their answers. 

I've known several women who claim to have been assaulted, and probably were--I have no way of knowing if they were honest, but no reason to doubt them.  I've not had any male friends who were accused--either rightly or falsely.  In that category, it's kinda about who you surround yourself with. 

The majority of the time, when women are raped, its because they are amongst the wrong crowd of people.  IN NO WAY AM I SAYING THEY DESERVE IT OR ASK FOR IT.  If you're in bars or clubs or parties at fraternities, or certain social gatherings, you are likely amongst those who are for lack of a better term, horn-dogs.  Throw in drugs and or alcohol, and its magnified.  Know the people you're around, don't put yourself in dangerous situations.  No, its not justification for rape, at all.

Likewise, why would guys be friends with other guys who have it in them to commit such acts? 

If you surround yourselves with immoral people, immoral things are going to happen.
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cjeffblanchr You ahhh, still avoiding our conversation I see. 

It's okay if you want to stop that particular thread. Most theists do when it gets to that stage. 

Just let me know.
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BuckeyeJoe I already have.  But I'll tell you again.  Start the conversation again.  It's been months, and I do not have the text of where it left off.  But if you want to ignore it again, only to try to bring it up again as though I am avoiding something,  go ahead.
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cjeffblanchr Start it again, you say? Okay. If you ever get me in a bind, then I'll disappear for months, then ask you to begin again, anew.

See the problem?

I remember the conversation just fine. Why do you not? Was it not important to you? A conversation about your holy book. The book you believe was written by a God? Heck, I don't believe it was written by a God, but I still remember it. 

Why is that, I wonder to myself?

You claimed slavery sanctioned in the bible is equivalent to indentured servitude. Thereby morally justifying its promotion in the bible. I responded with a quote from it:


2If you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve for six years; but on the seventh he shall go out as a free man without payment. 3If he comes alone, he shall go out alone; if he is the husband of a wife, then his wife shall go out with him. 4If his master gives him a wife, and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall belong to her master, and he shall go out alone. 5But if the slave plainly says, ‘I love my master, my wife and my children; I will not go out as a free man,’ 6then his master shall bring him to
God, then he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost. And his master shall pierce his ear with an awl; and he shall serve him permanently.

It is annoying that I have to cite for you (multiple times) text from the book you supposedly champion but I do not. It should be the other way around. Will you recognize it this time? Will you address it? Or just say some version of: he is attacking me, so I fleeflee far away!!

Perhaps I will meet you again in several months once you've nursed your wounds.
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Male 9,313
cjeffblanchr What I was really hoping for was rough numbers about personal experience of friends in these circumstances. 

Not so much a sermon.
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Male 1,094
LordJim Then why would you discount someone who gave you an answer?
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Male 259
cjeffblanchr cuz that dude is a contrarian, nothing more. 
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cjeffblanchr A long-standing mistrust of his veracity. I'll take your word for it, once disentangled. Not his. He has little or no regard for truth. He is an habitual liar, so I discount his claims. Does that explain it to your satisfaction?
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LordJim I suppose it might.  Just seemed a bit rude.  But I don't know, maybe there's history.  There's a lot of rudeness here on I-A-B, rather than people just discussing things.
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cjeffblanchr If it helps, I'm usually very polite. You have seen my at my rudest. But, yeah, history. I actually quite like the guy, I just don't believe a word he says.

OK, maybe you are right. I guess I might have hurt his feelings and if I did I'm sorry. Perhaps he may even have felt his masculinity was being challenged, and we know how fragile that is. So I'm sorry for that also.

mea culpa.
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LordJim how did I know that you were automatically go to Discount any  claims that doesn't fit your narrative. How very small-minded of you
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dm2754  automatically go to Discount any  claims that doesn't fit your narrative.

Just you, because I know you have no regard for truth.
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dm2754 Read the question again. 

Then read your first answer.


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LordJim 3, 0 (at least nobody said anything)
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Male 7,263
Tens of thousands of unprocessed rape kits, possibly hundreds of thousands..

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/07/16/untested-rape-kits-evidence-across-usa/29902199/

Women need to arm themselves, stat.  You are better off killing your assailant, and  working it out with your lawyers rather than trusting the cops for justice.
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Male 5,271
daegog Could not agree more.
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Male 120
How are the scenarios that she is singing about different for men? But anyone, male or female, is at risk when doing anything by themselves in a vulnerable situation.  like riding a subway late at night, etc.   The only thing not on the table, usually, for men is rape.

That is the point that irks me.  The idea that being a man means you are safe.

When I was young i used to tell my female friends to exercise (so they have the physical strength needed) and to properly learn to defend themselves.  None ever did.
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slicerdicer men are more like to be assaulted then woman
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slicerdicer 

No i think the point is that as a man you don't worry about taking a walk by yourself or using public transit or leaving your windows open.
And you don't worry about those things because they are not a threat to you. Not for the most part anyway. Not in the way they are for women.

I don't know why you're getting upset at a woman for telling you "these are the things that i have to think about and you don't,"
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metalgreymon and that is nonsense 
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Male 13,391
Hmm, looks like the media is desperate to get anything these days to help alleviate the egg they had on their face after making prideful predictions last election.
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monkwarrior 

What do predictions, prideful or otherwise have to do with this woman explaining what women have to deal with and poking fun at the idea the men have it so hard right now?

Go on, explain for the class how the  monolithic organisation of "the media" which apparently also encompasses youtube is trying to save face after an election...
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metalgreymon Simple, they use it as a way to mock.  This lady is all to happy to be famous i imagine too.  Win Win for the media and her.  It's sad some people can't see what their media is force-feeding them - the delusions of SJW.
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monkwarrior "Simple, they use it as a way to mock."

Mockfail! Ahh, there's the rub. You found it after all!

Yes, it all makes sense now! You mock you own existence.

How plain of you to see this.

You stand aside your fearful symmetry.

You mock the nature of its empathy.

    You rock to and fro
     
         Hither and yonder
   
              This way and that

                   an empty chalice.
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Male 13,391
BuckeyeJoe Oh look, you're cracking again.
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BuckeyeJoe 

                              an empty chalice that

                        holds your sutured crisis

                But do not fear that symmetry

            Dare bravely

        Into the fray.

That is where our lives are found.
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monkwarrior Hmmm, looks like you've snapped a little bit. Wounded too tight for too long, huh?

When you want to engage again, do beam me up.

Until then...safe travels.
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Male 13,391
BuckeyeJoe sounds like you've snapped all right.
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monkwarrior How does that toxic, brutal name sound?

Failure.

Bring your existential crisis to me.

Bring along your humanity.
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BuckeyeJoe You're going off the deep end apparently.
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BuckeyeJoe You'll never be able to, i play way ahead of you.  Get the help you need.  You're cracking.
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monkwarrior Apparently so. 

Nice of you to continue our conversation. I do enjoy it :)
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Male 13,391
BuckEyeJoe  Glad you agree.  That's the first step. Now seek the help.
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"me too" movement reminds me of the "LGBTQ community wants to get married" movement. its just another distraction for the bigger problems facing america.  sex is a bad thing now.  wasn't there a sexual revolution before i was born during the 70's? what happens to those females who chose to participate in drugs, liquor, and orgies willingly during that time?                                                                                                                  derp
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what happens to those females who chose to participate in drugs, liquor, and orgies willingly during that time? 

I've never heard of a girl participating in an orgy and complaining. Orgies usually have at least more than one female participant. You know there's a difference between an orgy and a gang-rape, right? 

People who participate in orgies are very clear about consent. There was that one orgy that actually completely shut down when Elon Musk appeared because nobody wanted him to be involved. Then, when he left, it started back up again.

The whole point of the Feminist and #MeToo movements are about women consenting to being sexualized and having sexual intercourse. Having discussions about what it means to give honest consent is the crux of the matter.

In the past, if a woman wore revealing clothing, people assumed that gave them automatic consent to grope them and to push them into alleyways where they could do more to the woman. Feminists are trying to change that.
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Male 222
bliznik the answer is striking enough. thank you
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Female 976
bliznik Yep, what you said.
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Male 18,342
dieseljuice1891 tell that to their faces.
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Male 222
Draculya i can't even come through on a date, more or less ask that
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Male 10,128
The truth is:
  • Every guy has the ability to be a complete asshole.
  • Likewise, every girl has the ability to be a perfect bitch.
  • The hope is as few as possible make lifetime achievements out of either option. 

I am only responsible for myself.  I have never raped anyone, but have been on the wrong side of false allegations. (Judge told her she was batshit crazy and dismissed the case).

Don't make bad choices.  Girls, be careful around everyone and have a plan.  Guys, never stick your dick in crazy.
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megrendel that's actually pretty good advice.
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Male 45,594
Anyone who is dating her should run the opposite direction FAST
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Male 361
Bitch please.  You can do all of those things!   Fact of the matter is most women are raped by men they know.  
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prichards114 Yeah, bitches should just shut up, right?
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prichards114 Fact of the matter is most men are raped by some one they know.  
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prichards114 She can do all of those things, but chances are is that if she does, she will be at least sexually assaulted, if not raped, by someone that she knows.

That is what is so s***y.
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Sad as hell but honest.  Women are getting raped all over the country, even as I type this guy guys are crying about #metoo like its every woman is lying.

Fun Fact, FBI estimates that less that 6% of rape allegations made to them are false, meanwhile the vase majority of rapes go unreported, we are a shitty society.
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daegog Some women ARE lying though, and because that makes the TRUE victims' stories get called into question, the (proven) liars should be subjected to the same punishments their false accusations would have been imposed on THEIR victims.  Prison, sex offender registry, etc.
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melcervini People love focusing on those handful of liars when the vast vast majority are telling the truth.
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daegog *I* focus on them because it puts a nasty stigma on the REAL victims and they should be held accountable to the extreme for it.
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melcervini Which in turn inhibits REAL victims from coming forward because they think they will not be believed.
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daegog exactly!!
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Male 900
daegog I am struggling to find how to describe my reaction to this, but I can understand the worry about false accusations.  I don't believe myself capable of raping someone.  I don't have to really worry about being a rapist.  So the only allegations against me would be false allegations.  In my profession, there wouldn't even really be a follow up, I would guess.  If I were accused of improper behavior or assault of any kind, I would just be fired and my career ruined.  

Also, I can care about those who are victims of false allegations and care about those who are victims of sexual violence.  It is possible to care about more than one thing.  

(This doesn't quite capture my thoughts, but for whatever reason my brain feels a bit fuzzed today.)
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If I were accused of improper behavior or assault of any kind, I would just be fired and my career ruined.  

Chances are, you wouldn't.

Very few cases end up like Spacey, Weinstein, and Louis C.K. Those cases only happened because there was a pattern of women accusing those guys of the same thing, and there was also a pattern of no investigations whatsoever. Most complaints get looked at and tossed out without any sort of investigation whatsoever. If you got accused, most likely, HR would look at the accusation, call you in for an interview, say that it's a "he said she said" situation, and move whoever is lower in the organization somewhere far, far away.

The point of the #MeToo movement is to take these allegations seriously.

If somebody accused a guy of illegally destroying documents in a company, they would look into security footage, talk to a bevy of employees, and try to get to the bottom of things.

If companies did at least that, it would be nice. Just take sexual assault allegation seriously.

I can care about those who are victims of false allegations and care about those who are victims of sexual violence.  It is possible to care about more than one thing. 

You can certainly care about both. But there are far more people in the latter category than the former. That's like saying that you can care about people who have been slaves, and you can also care about people who have been falsely accused of being slaveowners. There are definitely people who are slaves today. There are also definitely people who have been falsely accused of enslaving people. You can feel sorry for both, but, comparatively speaking, there really aren't that many people who have been falsely accused...
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bliznik I think in Spacey's case it was men.
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faustsshadow right. It cuts both ways. Scary for both. Still hard to get prosecuted though. I knew of a guy who got kicked out of college on an accusation because of a zero tolerance policy, so his we parents got a lawyer who told him to go to the police and ask to be investigated. The investigation found in his favour, the uni had to let him back in, then he made sure he was in all her classes and she dropped out.

Heresay was it was a case of regretted mutual drunken make out with some third base action and she put the complaint in to her tutor mostly because she wasn't getting good enough grades to get an upper second.

Nobody won. Everybody lost.
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Draculya Yup, I knew a couple of girls who were raped, they had DNA evidence and bruises, the guys were convicted, and...life went on for the guys. They still went to school and it didn't seem like their lives were negatively affected in the slightest.
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daegog If they are unreported how do they know?
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trimble I am friends with quite a few girls who were assaulted and never reported their assaults--mainly because by the time they were in a better state of mind to talk about it with their friends, they didn't have much evidence and most of us advised them not to report it.

I'm also friends with a couple of girls who did report their assaults and--nothing f***ing happened--even with DNA evidence and bruises. So, yeah, back then I did advise my friends not to come forward and report what happened to them when they had even less evidence than that because life sucks for sexual assault victims.
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bliznik Interesting but I was curious how the authorities know about unreported cases.
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trimble Probably Crime Surveys. In the UK the Home Office regards crime survey figures as being more accurate than police statistics, for a variety of reasons.
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trimble I cant speak for everyone, but in the case of my old lady, her father was a serial molester.  

The truth didn't come out for over 30 years, over that time he molested at least 6 young girls that we know about and it has rendered her family totally destroyed, half not wanting to believe the truth, the other mad at those that wouldn't believe the truth.

How he got caught, is a story for another day, but he is dead now, by his own hand.

It took my old lady 30+ years to come to grips with what happened to her, she said most of the time, the victims know they will not be believed and just wanna get on with their lives.  

Reliving that kind of pain is not something most would seek to do if they were SURE that the accused would get punished, but as we see with Kavanaugh, coming forward can lead to ridicule and all kinda bullshit.

So her numbers were eventually added to the statistics and I am guessing that is how they come up with those numbers, among other sources, I will look around later if you like..The numbers I had heard were pretty wide somewhere between 5 and 33% of rapes are reported.
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