Police Confronted Over Alleged "Bait Truck" Of Nike Shoes Left In A Black Chicago Community

Submitted by: daegog 4 months ago in News & Politics

There are 100s of unresolved homicides in Chicago and they are baiting... shoe thieves?

An excerpt from USA Today: Community members confronted a circle of police in Chicago's Englewood neighborhood over a "bait truck" filled with Nike shoes and allegedly left open by police aiming to lure potential thieves and make arrests.

"Y'all dirty, man," a man tells officers in an online video of the incident published Thursday. "Y'all see kids playing ball and you pull a f----- Nike truck into the ghetto."

But Norfolk Southern Railway, which operated the truck with assistance from the Chicago Police Department, denied that the sting targeted neighborhood youth and that the truck was ever left open. Three men, ages 21 and over, were charged with burglary last week after they broke into the truck, police said.

Charles McKenzie, an anti-crime activist who put the video on Facebook, told Vox that the truck appeared next to a basketball court frequented by young people in the largely black neighborhood in the South Side of Chicago. Norfolk Southern spokeswoman Susan Terpay said the truck was never parked near a basketball court, but said that a ball could have been dribbled near the truck.

The truck moved between several locations within a few blocks of rail yards and related properties, Terpay said.

"Freight theft specifically in this area has been increasing as the volume of rail traffic moving through the city of Chicago also increased," she said, describing recent thefts of guns and ammunition from in-transit freight containers.

"This week’s police operation was intended to directly combat such unacceptable thefts," Terpay said.

Chicago police confirmed that Terrell Melvin, 21, David King, 36 and Floyd Allen, 59, were charged with burglary after the truck's secured trailer was broken into last week. Terpay, the railway spokeswoman, denied that the truck was ever left opened with its contents — the Nike shoes — exposed to the public, even after being broken into.
There are 29 comments:
Male 7,300
Why not just leave a bowl of candy out in front of a kindergarden class and see which of the little kids take some, THEN we can get them in prison at a much earlier age and do not have to bother with truck.
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Male 10,141
daegog just leave a bowl of candy out in front of a kindergarden class 

So, you're saying that Terrell Melvin, 21, David King, 36 and Floyd Allen, 59 have the self-restraint of five year olds?
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Male 10,141
It's actually very easy to not get arrested for stealing.

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Male 223
megrendel you are a genius if you can pull that off... it sounds like your working on that 401k
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Male 10,141
dieseljuice1891 So, it takes a genius to realize that not actually stealing anything greatly reduces the chances of getting arrested for stealing anything?

I don't care if it's baiting or not.  Nothing is forcing them to TAKE the bait.  If they'll steal the bait they'll steal from someone who actually might need what they are stealing.

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Male 777
Is it really theft, if the owner of a box truck full of shoes, parks the truck on the side of the road and hopes for people to take the shoes?
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Male 223
i like how IAB perceives this post as funny...its hilarious how black people don't know you shouldn't take anything that isn't yours..yet most of them living off the government, being lazy, and spending uncontrollably saw a way to make some more money by stealing shoes and selling them on the streets...This isn't a result of system, this is just black people acting like black people.
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Male 2,842
Why can't they park a car carrier full of Lambo's with the key in them in my neighborhood? Cars? What cars?
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Male 782
Instead of arresting them the police should have tried aversion therapy, fill the back of the truck with cops in killer clown costumes, and when the kids break in, jump out screaming! None of them would ever open the back of a truck again!
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Male 4,069
How does parking a truckload of goods on the street 'directly combat' theft of goods from rail yards? 
Golly, it doesn't. If the claim is it does - show me proof.
What it does do is illustrate that civil police, with already over stretched resources, and in spite of on going serious and violent crime, will cater to corporate interests.
How many man hours did police keep the truck under surveillance? Was any of that overtime? How much taxpayer funded equipment was used in this operation that netted a whopping three arrests?
What is the criminal history - if any - of those arrested? Are they murderers? Possible terrorists? 
How much time will they do in jail/prison?
More time, I imagine than the Wall Street criminals that gambled and lost 100's of millions and were punished by being bailed out. 
More time by predatory lenders that manipulated the housing market, putting thousands of honest, paid-up-to-date families out on the street when their mortgages went upside down.
This wasn't combating crime, this was inviting crime. Inciting crime.
This was shameful.
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Male 4,490
The way I probably would have organized this is by education.

Do what they did, but instead of jail time, teach them why what they did is wrong, etc etc, and maybe some community service.

But, that doesn't line anyone's pockets.
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How is this any different when mayor Giuliani only one after turnstile jumpers. The project actually got a lot of hardened criminals that I jumped a bond 
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Male 45,632
Catching thieves has community leaders upset?

there is no hope
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Male 2,130
Gerry1of1 70 people were shot last weekend in Chicago, 12 of them killed .

Maybe they need to address their gun control laws instead since the police obviously cant do their job of protecting the communities.  Armed citizens are a great deterrent to crime, especially when backed with "stand your ground" and castle doctrine laws.  Dead criminals are never repeat offenders.
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Male 7,300
Gerry1of1 These are minor crimes of opportunity people.. Chase down the stick up kings, find the people breaking into houses or maybe look for the hundreds of murderers roaming around chi town.

You can put these shoe guys in jail sure, so they can be trained on how to be stick up kings and proper burglars, that's gonna help tons.
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Male 2,211
daegog "These are minor crimes of opportunity people.. Chase down the stick up kings"

Damn straight! Get the real criminals. The multi-million dollar money launderers, the crooked casino owners, The real estate developers in bed with the mob. The... oh fuck! They're protected. Shit! Never mind. Let's just put some black kids in jail.
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Male 2,842
semichisam01 It is Chicago.
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Male 45,632
daegog Or these shoe-thieves are also the ones that rob liquor stores and sometimes shoot the attendant. Catch them now before a more serious crime happens
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Male 7,300
Gerry1of1 So lets just HOPE we catch some real criminals instead of actually LOOKING for real criminals.

In the mean time, we can prosecute every dumbass that tries to swipe a pair of shoes and get them well on their way to becoming real criminals.
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Male 45,632
daegog   Oh, let's not blame the people who actually make the choice to steal. 
Heaven forbid
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Male 9,505
Gerry1of1 I'm such a dweebus. I'm upvoting both sides of this argument because each time one of you says something, I say, "You know, he's right!" (Well, except the "dead criminals are never repeat offenders" comment, which struck me as cavalier.)
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Male 7,300
How come they couldn't go to a white community with a truck load of vans or whatever those kids are wearing.
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Male 5,280
daegog Kids? Like these? "Chicago police confirmed that Terrell Melvin, 21, David King, 36 and Floyd Allen, 59, were charged with burglary"
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Male 7,300
trimble Catching burgulars!  Great!  Catching kids that you bait into stealing shoes?  Not so much.
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Male 45,632
daegog Yeah! Go to a white neighborhood with a truck load of CROCS !
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Male 9,505
Gerry1of1 "Spread your Crocs, hands on the hood. You're under arrest for commiting a crime of fashion."
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Female 6,697
"Its your fault for making us steal shit."
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Male 2,211
melcervini "Its your fault for making us steal shit."

Are you suggesting that not stealing would be a good strategy to avoid being arrested for stealing?
In my town, the police put out bait bikes. They have tiny transmitters in them, they're all the same brand, and photos have been printed in the local newspaper with quotes from the Police Chief. People steal them.
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