The Finns Are Pretty Badass

Submitted by: Gerry1of1 5 months ago in Misc


Why are Finns more bad ass than Russian commies? Here are 10 reasons...

From TopTenz: The Winter War began in November of 1939, when the Soviets invaded Finland, seeking to claim Finnish territory. With overwhelming numbers advantages in men and firepower, the Soviets were expecting victory in a couple of weeks. Instead, the conflict went on for three months, with the Soviet soldiers taking casualties at a rate five times that of the Finnish forces. While Finland ultimately agreed to sign 11% of its land over to the Soviets in the peace treaty that ended the war, Finland retained its sovereignty and demonstrated that it was no easy target. Nikita Khrushchev characterized the advantages the Soviets had, noting, “But on these most favorable terms, we could only win through huge difficulties and incredibly great losses. In fact, this victory was a moral defeat.”
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Male 10,079
Superb video. It touches on all the key elements, including things I wasn't expecting him to explain. First, the arranging of the frozen-solid Soviet dead as scarecrows as a form of psychological terrorism (8:30); second, the all-important Finnish concept of sisu. Finns have a certain grit to them that is a profound part of their culture. (Whenever I was feeling a bit daunted by something, a Finnish friend would advise me to eat some "black bread" and cultivate some sisu.) One of the reasons I was familiar with the 10 items touched on by this video is that the Finns are justifiably proud of their conduct in the Winter War, and they often took the time to explain these items in conversations to an American living over there.

One other thing about the Finns, in regard to the Winter War, is notable. When a large portion of the Finnish population had to be evacuated from Karelia, the country came together in a remarkable way: Millions of Finnish married couples voluntarily donated their wedding bands so that they could be melted down for the gold to pay for the relocation and resettlement efforts.

Hyvä Suomi!
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Male 2,277
The Russians learned from their losses though, and some leadership came out of that conflict. Leaders of any sort were in very short supply since a series of purges killed almost anyone with actual skills and replaced them with political appointees (NKVD? I forget).
That was one of the lessons they learned, sort of.
Anyhow, people forget all the nations Russian invaded before the Nazis went after them. And it was Stalin's plan to invade Poland (again) and thus attack Germany in 1942 (Again, iirc: EZ to look up eh?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-AMtiVDC34
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Male 1,319
Leaders of any sort were in very short supply since a series of purges killed almost anyone with actual skills and replaced them with political appointees (NKVD? I forget).

Yes, there were a number of purges, you are correct. Arguably, the most important one being the purge of Red Army personell from what became known as the Tukhachevsky affair. An exceptional piece of counter intelligence, from SD-Ausland. Walter Schellenberg gives an acocunt of it in his memoirs, 'The Labyrinth', and French jounalist Andree Brissaud details it extremely well in his book 'The Nazi Secret Service'.

From Brissaud: 11 deputy Defence Commisars, 3 out of 5 Marshals, 75 out of 80 members of the supreme war council, 13 out of 15 army commanders, 57 out of 85 corps commanders, 110 out of 195 division commanders, 200 out of 406 brigade commanders; estimated that 30 to 50 tousand officers were eliminated during this period, about half the body of specialist officers.

Incredible, no? Soviet forces were effectively beheaded, and they would feel the effects of this until well into 1943.
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Male 295
buttersrules in Soviet Russia, heads are for the bourgeoisie
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Male 2,277
buttersrules Yup, Stalin was not a nice person :x
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Male 7,525
If the Italians fought as well as the Finns, I am not sure how WW2 turns out.

North Africa falls completely under Axis control, There would be no Vichy France, it would have all been conquered land.  Perhaps even capturing the French Fleet that was mostly annihilated by the UK.

Maybe inroads to the Middle east as well, providing the oil that the axis was always lacking.

If the Italians can help Germany push into Britain... Maybe Britain falls too?

Would make for an interesting movie.
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Male 9,631
daegog This is an interesting analysis of Ialy's performance in WW2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kcx8pztu_Y
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 I hear they're making a movie about the "white death"
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Male 2,277
dm2754 The Finns or the Russians? These two are Finnish:
This one's from 1989: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098437/
This one from 1985: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090215/

The 1985 one is about the Continuation War which started in 1941... Hopefully a new film will be made too! To keep the memory of it in people's minds.
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