Open Forum Friday: A Little IAB Housekeeping, Announcements, And Pointless Blabbering

Submitted by: fancylad 8 months ago in Weird

Hey all, it's is a traditional Open Forum. I wanted to post this one early to give everyone a few days to read, comment, and so on.

So a few bits of IAB housekeeping:

1. IAB has mods again.
I've asked a handful of you if you're interested so if you get an email from me in the email you used to sign up on this site, that's me asking you if you're interested. Ideally, I'd like to get around 10 or 15 irregular regulars set up with mod status. As I've told the users, the duties are simple -- just keep the message boards friendly. So far, littlemissqt and normalfreak2 have signed on. I'll announce the rest as they accept.

2. IAB's verified users.
This is trickier. In an attempt to eliminate "sock puppets," I'm trying to devise a way to verify accounts without being a creeper about it. I saw that Fojos posted a link to proof that he was indeed Fojos. IAB isn't Twitter or Facebook so it's not going to be impossible to accomplish this task, I just need to figure out a way to verify everyone who wants to be verified without being too demanding or intrusive. In other words, I don't want you to have to submit your drivers license along with a cotton swab of your saliva. Any suggestions?

3. A million apologies to Squrlz.
I let you down, man. It's nobody's fault but mine, obviously. Hope you come back, but I understand if you don't.

I think that's all for now. I'm hoping I can get the verified user project off the ground by Monday. It's all going to depend on if Sunny can carve some time out of his weekend. I'll answer all questions as they're posted, if there are any.

Survive the weekend.

Yours in perpetuity, fancylad
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Male 18,342
Can someone please post a controversial topic? I'd be nice to test out our ability to debate without name calling. All the innocuous posts we have up currently are getting almost no comment action.
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Male 13,169
Draculya Abortion is murder.
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Male 18,342
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Male 13,169
Draculya Agree to disagree friend.

The moderation seems to be working.
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Male 18,342
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Male 13,169
Draculya Fuck your mother you baby killer.
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Male 6,499
holygod, “Fuck your mother you baby killer.”

Moderately moderating with a thesaurus: Bonk your source you diminutive butcher.
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Male 13,169
markust123 "diminutive butcher"

Hmmm. That makes it sounds like he's a midget that sells meat.
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Male 18,342
holygod you're not 5Cats, but I appreciate the effort. Thanks, buddy.
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Male 13,169
Draculya hugs and kisses.
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Male 6,291
Draculya beef vs pork vs tofu
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Male 10,084
rumham Medium Rare, BBQ'd and Hell No!
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Male 18,342
megrendel real men don't eat tofu
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Male 18,342
Draculya *except kalron
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Male 5,608
rumham Tofu
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Male 6,291
kalron27 tofu is great, so is soy sausage, so is ribs and beef tacos
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Male 6,309
kalron27 Gesundheit
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Male 18,342
kalron27 found the vegan!
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Male 5,608
Draculya Pescitarian actually, he didn't ask about vs salmon vs tuna ;)
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Male 10,084
kalron27 Pan Seared on a bed of Roasted Garlic Mashed Potatoes and Grilled Asparagus with a Bourbon Glaze vs. Thinly sliced, seared with ponzu sauce
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Male 5,608
megrendel Both sound delicious!
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Male 18,342
kalron27 you can't make bacon out of either, so it's moot.
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Male 5,608
Draculya Actually, you can make "bacon" from Salmon Belly

https://honest-food.net/salmon-candy-recipe/

It's F'n delicious!
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Male 18,342
kalron27 does it taste like bacon?
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Male 5,608
Draculya If like bacon you mean salty and greasy then yes :)  But seriously, it's comparable in taste to real bacon, much better than fake-n-bacon...yuck!
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Male 18,342
kalron27 if you've every had the misfortune to visit Malaysia, picture me crying over a plate of beef bacon.
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Male 916
Draculya left wing economic ideology inevitably leads to  authoritarian governance. Discuss?
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Male 579
jayme21 Name one left-wing authoritarian government. Leftism stands for equality, egalitarianism, and a relative lack of social hierarchy. I can't name one single authoritarian government which has lived up the the traits of leftism. 
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Male 18,342
jayme21 socialism depends on bureaucracy for fair distribution of resources, and bureaucracy risks sliding into authoritarianism, waste, and corruption, but it need not be the case.

Likewise, free markets are not necessarily efficient and in the long run, inevitably lead to wealth inequality that can only be sustained with the oppression of the proletariat.
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Male 579
Draculya "socialism depends on bureaucracy for fair distribution of resources". 

That is not at all what socialism is. Socialism is worker (collective) control of production (output). That's it-no bureaucracy is technically necessary.

Examples: Mondragon Corporation, worker co-operatives, etc. 

Socialism need not involve the government at all (however, it still can), as far as the ideology is concerned. 
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Male 18,342
Draculya aw crap, 5C really isn't online anymore and there is nobody to argue with.

Does anyone mind if I make a conservative sock puppet so I have someone to debate?
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Male 10,084
Draculya bureaucracy risks sliding into authoritarianism, waste, and corruption, but it need not be the case.

The probability of a socialist bureaucracy sliding into authoritarianism approaches certainty every single time.
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Male 18,342
megrendel lupus in fabula
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Male 18,342
megrendel and unrestrained capitalism inevitably crushes the little man.

Maybe the founding fathers hoped for an eternal cycle of revolution, with free markets and socialism taking turns?
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Male 1,124
Do ideas have a life of their own, or do they live because of their proponents and followers? If an idea is fundamentally ridiculous, can it be separated from its person, or is its person subject to the same valuation?

A post below asks, I think it does, how to react to ideas that are ridiculous. By extension, aren't their proponents ridiculous? Yes, free speech, yes. But isn't it the case that not all ideas are equally respectable, and isn't it a societal obligation to purge them if they are destructive, or at least to not lend it artificial life based on respect?

Dangerous thoughts, yes. But respect lets radicalism fester, and radicalism for certain eradicates competition, idea and person. 

Gray, very gray. 
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Male 18,342
bearbear01 it's often impossible to have a civil discussion with an extremist. You won't change his mind. All that will happen is he'll start calling everyone names, make threats and then make sock puppets to support his deeply flawed views. 
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Male 1,124
Draculya agreed.  Impossible to reason with the unreasonable. We all are occasionally but some take that stance permanently. The unmovable rock is more a rock than unmovable. 
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Male 6,499
I’ve accepted Fancy’s request to be a mod. The personal attacks are way out of control.

If someone says, “That’s a stupid fucking argument”. They are not attacking anyone, they are attacking the argument. Sure, there are better ways to say it but I’m not about to censor language. Now if they say, “That’s a stupid fucking argument you dumb fucking idiot” then we have a problem.

It’s all the “Fuck you” and “Go fuck yourself, you stupid cunt” that I’m going to help to curb. I’m hoping people just stop doing it. This is a good community when people aren’t being dicks. I shouldn’t even have to say this but racism and hate speech are right out also.
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Male 938
markust123 Your reasoning is why I will probably not continue to frequent this site. You argue for not censoring language, but then go on to describe censorship of exactly that.

If someone can form a cogent simile, but happens to be derogatory about it, there is nothing wrong with that at all. You might feel like they are lower than you, but then that is a weakness of yours not a trait of theirs.

The only thing I have a problem with, more than the fuckwits who only yell profanities and cannot form an argument, are those cunts who think that they are better than others and immediately attempt to elevate themselves, when given the proverbial additional 6 foot more rope.

Take the rope and elevate yourself, it might pull your head out of your fucking arse.

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stifler I probably shouldn’t have used specific examples. All I was trying to say is there’s a line between derogatory comments, where people are flipping each other shit, and obvious personal attacks. That is what I have been asked to help curb. It’s not about “being better than others”. I’m doing this thankless non-job for the community. I’d prefer if people reeled themselves in so I didn’t have to do anything.
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Male 10,084
markust123 I consider there being a difference between "You're a fucking idiot" when it's based on their argument on a subject versus "You're a fucking idiotic kike." (No offense intended....just needed a specific example.)

Same as I see 'cocksucker' (a take on 'suck my cock') a good generic insult, but 'fucking faggot' is out of bounds.

Or, we could all just go Roman Maroney.



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megrendel For 8 of the 10 years I’ve been coming to this site people have been pretty civil to each other. When Fancy removed the filters people tested the waters saying worse and worse things. One user in perticular became so out of control he was almost banned because of it. He blamed non existent attack’s he was supposedly “mirroring”. The thing is no one could find these so called vicious personal attacks against him that he was supposedly responding to. People saw that he didn’t get in trouble for viciously attacking people so they started doing it. It’s become so bad people are leaving because of it. Now others are arguing for their right to abuse people. Seriously you guys - your are arguing for the right to abuse people. I don’t attack people personally because I don’t like to be attacked personally. It’s not that hard. 
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Male 6,291
markust123 yeah mods are all well and good but calling someone a dumbass is vastly different than calling someone a faggot mop fucker. right? i mean i called 5cats a Spartan douchebag and he got all upset.. i mean douchebag?  lets not turn i-a-b into sunshine unicorn my little pony land. It's all about context, CONTEXT people
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Male 6,499
rumham I can't speak for any of the other mods but I will use a very fine scalpel. I don't think you will see things get better until there are about ten mods. The only thing I have changed so far is I deleted an obnoxious 200 or so returns inside a comment.
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Male 2,730
markust123 What we need here is just Miss. Manners.
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Male 2,730
markust123 So holygod calling me fucking retarded would be right out then?
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Male 10,084
scheckydamon If it's a comment on a particularly less than well thought out argument...I consider it accurate.

If it's just out of the blue..might be an issue.

Of course, just adding the word 'that' to precede it solves all issues.  "That is fucking retarded".
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Male 579
megrendel Agreed. I don't think we'll have too much of a problem with that, though, without 5Cats. 
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Male 13,169
megrendel Here here. Let's be able to call a spade a spade.
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Male 1,859
scheckydamon " In the future I will no longer darken the doors of this site and will warn true thinking people away from it."

That was you, no?
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Male 2,730
marsii Yup, and you’re another liberal asshole that is dragging the site into the crapper. But, lurkers gonna lurk.
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Male 1,859
scheckydamon Looking forward to when you no longer darken the comment section with asshole comments like that. Does Stormfront have a forum for you to go to?
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Male 13,169
scheckydamon Not if you are being fucking retarded. Hey didn't you leave "forever" in a big huff a few weeks ago?
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Male 2,730
holygod Yea I did but I’m so glad I continued to lurk. IAB if falling down around your ears and like most liberal assholes you’re too blind to see that the likes of you are the reason. 5cats was an asshole too but in the long run your behavior is what will be the death of the site. So I think you can just go suck it.
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Male 13,169
scheckydamon Aren't you like 60-something? You talk like a 12 year old on the playground who thinks he's a badass. 

You said something along the lines of "he's black, what do you expect" and got called out for being racist. Sorry that hurt your wittle feelings. In the future if you don't want to get called a racist, don't say racist shit.
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holygod I'm 62 and have been there and done that. You're supporting your "other" while she becomes a Dr or a nurse or what ever and you you have a little one. Your little one is the most important thing you will ever do in your entire life. I've been many things in my 62 years and yes among them was the role of asshole. I am more than willing to admit it and also try to overcome it.
 The whole idea of adult discourse is to admit that two people have different opinions and agree to disagree. It is not to call the person you disagree with a fucking retard. If, as adults, you show me where I was wrong and can provide links to so such, I am adult enough to admit such. But as soon as you call someone a retard the dynamic  changes and nobody gets anywhere. CIVILIZED DISCOURSE. There's a winner. There is no civilized discourse with you and that I am sad to say is the difference between old and young these days.
You continue to miss what is being said in this thread and the Squrelz good bye thread. People that have been here for years, like you and me and others, are saying they are tired of the name calling and invective thrown around. We used to be a community of goofy shit with fun comments and and wild posts. There are a few that get in but even when goofy they political and personal invective in the comments drive people away.
Live like you want, believe what you want but let people be who they are. Until you do that you will never mature.
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scheckydamon 

1. what do you mean by "other"?

2. What does my wife / kids have to do with this? I miss the connection.

3. When did I call you a fucking retard? Not saying I didn't, I probably did. Just looking for context. It wasn't in the thread where you got all pissed off and "quit" IAB.

Just in case anyone would like a refresher:

You said: "He lives in Detroit and is black. What would you expect?"

I said: "Jesus Christ man, way to jump into the stereotype with both feet. Did you play a banjo while you made that comment?"

(which to be honest I thought was mildly amusing)

You responded with: "No the banjo was being played while I ass fucked you in my comment below. Bye bye asshole."

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holygod Is your other your wife or are you not married? Have you not made the commitment? Your wife has everything to do with it if she's not your wife and you've not made that commitment.
When did I call you a fucking retard? Oh maybe 3 or four times. I'm not going to cruise back and find them but you did.
 "He lives in Detroit and is black. What would you expect?"
In the grand scheme of things, that's none of your fucking business. If the kid from Detroit can't stand up for himself, he needs to go home to mom. He, daegog, continues to play the race card but you and others don't acknowledge it. He's a young punk that doesn't have a real life or a real amount of knowledge to hang on to but that is not your problem, it's his. Take it or leave it. I don't really give a shit if he's black, white or purple. He's just like you in that he's not willing to have a conversation and admit that he disagrees with me or anyone else on facts or conversations. Facts or conversation can be debated but racial stereotypes can't. In his case he does the "white privilege" BS line and I'm not going there. I was born white because my parents were both white. How about you? Both parents white? Is that a privilege or just life?
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Male 7,138
scheckydamon You typed an entire paragraph of trash when you could have just typed "I lied" or was the notion that you were leaving just "fake news" lol.
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Male 2,730
daegog You my friend are a little person that lives in, and maybe was raised, in Detroit. Thank you for your service as I've gatehered that you did enlist. I've tracked you down to a 4th level gamer with a youtube cannel that has one subscriber. You're nothing but somebody that wants it handed to him on a plate and as long as that is who you are it will never change. Truth and life is a bitch and I'm calling you out. You're a failure and will always be while you hide behind your race. Become a man and become truly all you can be.
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Male 1,859
scheckydamon A 62 year old shit talker and nothing more. Try not to look that hypocritical when calling for adult discourse. People will mistake you for a satire character.
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Male 2,730
marsii A 30 something liberal moron with no manners. I'll take shit talker thanks.
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Male 1,859
scheckydamon Your shit talking lacks manners so all you are really taking is the age because face it; you don't have the brains no matter how you cut it.
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christopher_bourne

If you sock puppet, you better be prepared to dance like one :)
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Male 18,342
kalron27 Brilliant post
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Male 5,608
kalron27 FYI the comment above called me out for "harassing" the user by stating the obvious Sock Puppeteer.  This "Deleted Comment" post has not been initiated by a Mod, rather by the said user in order to protray as if IAB is censoring people now.  Nice attempt "Cats of 5"...try again...
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Male 13,169
christopher_bourne Do you really think people saying that you created another account on a website is that egregious of a violation? Stop and think about it.

People said you had sock puppets.

You responded by telling them to kill themselves, threatening them, and posting pictures of dead dismembered animals.

That is like if someone cuts you off in traffic and you follow them home and rape their children as "defense". Were they wrong to do it? Ya, but, come on.

When you accused me of using sock puppets do you think it would have been appropriate for me to tell you to kill yourself and then post pictures of cut open dismembered cats?
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christopher_bourne Derp commenter.
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Male 13,169
christopher_bourne 

"They were just as vile and rude as I ever was"
"gave them back what they were dishing out."

No dude. No. No, no, no.

Accusing someone of having multiple accounts is not the same as telling people to kill themselves and posting gruesome dead animals. You really don't get that?

You really think you just "gave them back what they were dishing out."?

Has anyone on IAB ever told you to fuck your mother?
Has anyone on IAB ever told you to kill yourself?
Has anyone on IAB ever posted dead cat pictures at you?

No?

THEN YOU WEREN'T GIVING THEM BACK WHAT THEY WERE DISHING OUT.
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Male 1,859
christopher_bourne You're not getting it. You're saying it isn't fair. You're wrong but here's the thing; it doesn't matter. Even if it weren't fair your behavior has pissed off enough people to get you banned. Let that sink in. It doesn't matter if it is objectively unfair. Your behavior is something the rest of us don't want. So you can keep arguing that what you did was fine but it doesn't matter what you think, you were banned because the people on this site don't like how you treat others. You will never convince anyone with this pointless bitching that what you did is OK. Go somewhere that people tolerate that shit or cut it out!
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Has anyone on IAB ever told you to fuck your mother?
Has anyone on IAB ever told you to kill yourself?
Has anyone on IAB ever posted dead cat pictures at you?

umm....
1. I may have, possibly. Can't remember for sure, but possibly have. Sounds like something I might do in complete frustration.
2. I definately have done so, just the other day.
3. I'm quite sure I haven't done so.

Just for the sake of transparency. :D

(btw, #2 was moderated by NF2. And rightly so.)

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buttersrules  (with regards to 5cats, not butters)

1) If I didn't, then i'm slipping.
2) I certainly wouldn't type that, I might think the hell out of it tho.
3) No, that would be a bit too lame.
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Male 938
buttersrules buzz buzz (the sound of Lorraine's toy!)
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Male 1,319
stifler Where's the dildo?..
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Male 938
buttersrules dunno. guess I didnt work it out either.
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Male 13,197
markust123 Good, i hope you'll won't be biased, and not let people like holyGod does here for example get away with it
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markust123 "There will be no more cunts in this house! You got that mister?" "What? Are you moving out?"
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markust123 
Um, would you censor someone saying that others are being dicks? You fucktard? :)
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Male 13,169
markust123 we can still call each other "fucktards" though right?
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Male 13,197
holygod it looks like you'll have to work at not being juvenile.  It's a good thing though, since you're an adult now.
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holygod That really depends on if you're talking to a mentally challenged prostitute. 
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Male 6,291
markust123 do you know any i can meet?
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Male 13,169
markust123 What if they just are just genuinely fucktarded? I mean can we vote on which members are so clearly fucktards that they should be able to be addressed as such? I mean let's say, just for the sake of conversation, if they think the Earth might be flat, they think people never went to the moon, they think 9/11 was an inside job, and they think chem trails are a government conspiracy, we can rightfully call them "fucktard" right? I think it is important to establish fair rules.
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Male 1,319
holygod In Australia, being called a fucktard is a compliment. Just ask stifler, the fucktard bastard son of an oft-molested goat.

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Male 13,197
holygod look how hateful you are, you seriously have issues, bordering on delusional (likely inspired by your western delusions of 'normalcy' - a tragic thing to do to a mind). If you're going to be petty like that, and hateful (as clearly this is a post inspired by your petty hate - ignorant and tantrum like), then it would be a good training lesson to have your posts modded by markust123.  until you learn the world doesn't revolve around you fragile world-view and its petty judgements.

Keep in mind also you could fall into such a classification for demanding that 6/2(1+2) only equals 9, when symbolab shows you how it is the equation is incorrect (as you can type it in and get 1, or copy/paste it in to get 9), and it's you who doesn't want to admit they're wrong.

Your hate will be modded, as fancylad said the mod's job is simple:   keep the message boards friendlyIt would be reasonable to say your petty hate is going to get snagged on that if you insist on continuing it. 
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Male 1,859
monkwarrior Maybe comment 8081 will be worth a damn.

I knew you'd be worried. You should be. This community has had enough of your bullshit.
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Male 13,197
marsii i'm not worried in the slightest i know how to discuss and debate and voice my opinion.  Also, you don't speak for the community, you speak for yourself.  
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monkwarrior Well, maybe 8082....
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Male 9,577
marsii Ok, I laughed.
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Male 13,197
marsii so you're back to your trolling, big surprise.
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Male 13,169
monkwarrior I honestly don't know how deep your incompetence goes, but I am consistently surprised that it goes even deeper than I previously thought.

If you go to that site and type in 6÷2(1+2) the answer is 9. It is the only answer it gives. Did you somehow fail at typing in the equation?

Your unabashed, arrogant idiocy literally makes me laugh out loud. How do you even manage to tie your shoes? Nevermind, probably velcro.
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Male 13,197
holygod the  ÷  symbol is not a standard keyboard symbol.  it's actually used as / .  However, if you had gone to the site to type in 6/2(1+2)  you would have seen the answer is 1.  If you had pasted it in you would have seen the answer is 9.  I suspect you did, and then you went to get the non-standard  ÷  symbol to save face and continue to hold to your answer.  Yet the very fact that  ÷ and / are divisors meaning the same thing, continues to display how the equation is incorrectly formatted as it can lead people to get 2 different answers, and therefore the equation is incorrect.

Your continued petty judgements, to hate on others, continues to expose your damaging hate.  Remember, your hate is doing more damage to the vessel it's stored in (you) than anything you pour it upon.
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monkwarrior OK. I will take a break from being mean to you and legitimately try to explain this to you nicely and see if it works. Maybe this will be a reset in our online relationship.

1. Yes. "÷" is not a standard keyboard symbol. That is why the site gives you that symbol right there in the basic symbols.

2. The post that we have talked about repeatedly is 6÷2(1+2) NOT 6/2(1+2) even though they are the same thing. The reason it can be confusing is because when "/" is used some people, programs, calculators can take it as you trying to write an inline fraction. That was the one and only reason that the video you think vindicated you said the answer could be considered "1". However, again, the post used "÷" so that is not a valid argument.

3. When you type "/" into that website it also think you are trying to make a fraction. See?

4. Do you honestly think that

6÷2(1+2)

is the same as

    6
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2(1+2)

?

5. It isn't. I promise it isn't. Those just aren't the same equation.

6. What is the answer to 4÷2+2? Do you think that one is "open to interpretation"? The answer is 4 right? ONLY 4? If you type it into the website with "/" instead of "÷" it turns it into a fraction and the answer is 1. 

Now that was nice. It also irrefutably explains why you are wrong. Can you shock me and admit that you made a mistake? Or are you going to come back with some "I am rubber you are glue", d-k, western delusion comment? 

If you just simply say you made mistake I will never bring this up again or give you shit about it. Everyone makes mistakes, it's no big deal. An inability to accept your mistakes IS something I will give you shit about.

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Male 6,291
holygod if you douchebags start up this fraction post again i swear i will burn this motherfucker down
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Male 13,169
rumham it's open forum mother fucker.
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Male 6,291
holygod redacted fart.
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Male 13,197
holygod I'm sorry, but you're only half right in saying its 9 as the answer can be 1 or 9.  What you're not taking away from that post was that math equations need to be made clear by the author, and that wasn't clear by the author.  So since the answer can be found by some people to be 9 and some people to be 1, the correct answer is that it's the equation that's wrong.

All you need to do is see beyond what you think is right, to the grander question: "is it right for everyone?".  As demonstrated in the above paragraph you can't demand it to be 9.  You may think it's 9, but when you want to start demanding others are wrong for saying it's 1, well you are wrong for not realizing that the equation is wrong. As you said, everyone makes mistakes, it's no big deal, simply say you made the mistake and realize how the equation is at fault.  If you don't want to admit it, and try demand it's 9 still, i'll continue to point out how you're wrong every time.

As for 4/2+2 i would agree that is 4.  However when the equation is 4/2(3-1)  which people can get 1 or 4, then the author would have to clairfy it so that there is no question with the answer.  Do they want 1:  4/(2(3-1))  or do they want 4: 4/2*(3-1).  It's quite a simple concept to understand.
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Male 6,291
monkwarrior we know, you are super smart its cool bro hang loose
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Male 13,197
rumham relax o'flotyham
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Male 13,169
monkwarrior k. Well I tried. The only way that it is 1 is if you read it as an inline fraction because of the "/" however our equation used "÷" so that doesn't matter. 

You tried to use that website to prove me wrong and all it did was show you exactly what I have been patiently trying to explain. The answer is 9 and only 9. 

The only way to get 1 is by not understanding basic math, or by using "/" and reading it as an inline fraction.

Believe whatever you want.
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holygod Monk is a lost cause, seriously he's a master at being the dumbass troll.
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holygod The problem is that you are unwilling to learn, as you didn't ask yourself the question "is this answer the same for everyone".  Instead of empathy and trying to understand others, which is something i've noticed you lack, you demand your answer is the only right one, and anyone else you feel you should insult, as you did "the only way to get one is by not understanding basic math"  or even stupider "or by using / and reading it as an inline fraction".  However, Math is about ensuring that the proper answer is found by everyone, and since the answer is demonstrably 9 or 1, it shows that the equation is wrong.  You will continue to be wrong if you demand it's only 9, and it will continue to show your unwillingness to learn.
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monkwarrior "is this answer the same for everyone"

No, of course not. Some people get it right and some people get it wrong.

This is math, not interpretive dance.

I can just picture you in math class holding your F arguing with the teacher that the equations were at fault.
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holygod It is math, about that you're right.  But without clear equation structure or rules they used, the authors intended answer can come to 1 or 9.  One answer isn't wrong and another answer isn't right, as you continually try to demand and insult over.  The reality is the equation is incorrect, and throwing a tantrum over it, or stomping your foot and crossing your arms like a grade primary student, isn't going to change the fact the equation is incorrect.  The equation demonstrated that different people using math the proper way can come to 2 different answers, and no, your way isn't more proper, or more right than others; it's the equation is incorrect as a result, and you just don't want to admit it.  The solution is to recognize the problem, and resolve it.  I thought it was 1, but then could see how it was 9, and because of that it caused me to find out the answer which i've just told you: the equation is incorrect for not being clear.  Ignore it all you like, but its a valuable learning opportunity for you, which is why i brought it up.
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holygod you too, you are super smart calm down don't pet the derpvortex. 
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holygod Agreed. We can just change the gender listed under their profile pic to "fucktard". Add to that those who think vaccines cause autism.
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DuckBoy87 Done. Plus anyone who thinks sandy hook was staged. What about those that think AGW is a hoax or that evolution isn't real? Are those too controversial in America?
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holygod What about Flat Earthers and people that think 9/11 was an inside job?
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lockner01 Look a couple comments up.....
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Have a chuckle:



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i finally saw star wars VIII and it was as shameful as everyone has been reporting.  Star Wars is dead.
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monkwarrior I will agree entirely.  That movie was so godawful, they should have been ashamed to label it star wars.  And what in the blue fuck was the luke drinking alien titty milk scene all about?  Who thought that shit was a good idea?
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daegog It was a reference to the blue milk in episode IV. A little something for the fan boys I guess.
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daegog he did what?!?
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Draculya Seriously lol.. It's just a ridiculous scene that had no place being in the final cut.
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monkwarrior i love how you posted so many negative comments about a movie you havent seen until now.  pretty typical for you. passing judgement on things you know nothing about
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rumham Not at all, i listen to what others have to say and try determine the truth of a matter.  I determined that it was not worth it to see it in the theater, a risk.  Turns out i was right.
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monkwarrior well now we know your thought process you follow what others say without any first hand knowledge of what you are speaking about. 
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rumham And it goes to show that i can decipher what others say to make a very sound estimate.
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monkwarrior an estimate towards your own fragile world view. without outside influence. stay in that bubble, boy
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rumham you're the one missing out on a line of information gathering.  In fact, if i recall correctly, didn't you listen to the 'hype' put out at you by your TV, when this came out, when you didn't see it yourself, thinking it was going to be good?  It's starting to sound like you're jealous of the better information gathering.
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monkwarrior 
Been dead, man. And the first one wasn't all that anywho.
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Has anyone considered a code of conduct? Might make it easier on both the mods and everyone else, so that the rules are clear, plus possible penalties for infringing them, (warning,temporary ban, permanent ban etc). Really some of the threatening behavior that seems to have come up recently seems to be one of the biggest problems though over the years it seems to have gotten progressively worse from what I've seen (I'm  a very long time lurker). If we can send the warning signs early on, hopefully we can get the individuals to act like adults and recognize their mistakes before it gets to this point. I have no problem with debates on different opinions, but personal attacks help no one.
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millennials have no place on this website..Do millennials have any leverage or say on this website?? 
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dieseljuice1891 The youngest millennials are about the age of 20 and range to mid to late 30's, even . Why can't 35 year olds have any leverage on a website?
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dieseljuice1891 Millennials don’t call themselves millennials. 
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markust123 "millennials" is what we call "young people these days". I've never heard of it used in a positive context. 

Even deplorables sometimes call themselves that with pride. Millennials only call themselves millennials when they bemoan their student debt, lack of economic prospects and shelter.
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markust123 thats what i thought. 
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dieseljuice1891 try'n to get ur post count up 5cats?

If not, your just another toxic millennial who thinks they have what is coming to them. 

Which they do, but is not what they are thinking they will get...
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dieseljuice1891 What does being a millennial have to do with being concerned with world and national issues? Can't young people care about what's going on?
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dieseljuice1891 today i just realized how to change my bicycle pedals after paying over $5000 to bicycle shops to do that particular procedure 
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dieseljuice1891 today beef was tuna then a bear gave me a handjob then i replied.
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dieseljuice1891 meth is fun
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dieseljuice1891 I'm not really sure what is going on in this comment....
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holygod Your response was so Calculon.
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holygod They made you mod voted to make you mod, and you didnt get this most obvious reference to societies culture?

Let me spell it out for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RieJkKmUTSk


bahahahahahaha

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I usually hit the internet after work about 9:30 p.m.  My work is as a Counselor in a state prison.  I am assigned to a treatment unit for the most seriously mentally ill, most violent inmates in the system. IAB is my first stop. I enjoy the articles if they are entertaining, unusual and thought provoking...generally a nice selection. No so much if they just mirror news on other media or have a male only theme (like too much T+A).  Most times the comments dialog is great, especially if it stays respectful.  Other times it is just like being at work for me.  Not so much fun if it is ranting and being rude.  So, please try to help make it a place where people would want to go for a good time and feel comfortable expressing their thoughts and opinions.  As you have noticed, I generally try to find something humorous to add like a cartoon, picture or link to a video. The inmates often refer to me as Mr. Rogers which I take as a great compliment.  Be a good neighbor!
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mentott510 Glad you are doing your part to make the world a little bit better place. It is commendable. I'd love to hear some stories about your experiences. 

I get what you are saying about articles echoing the news, but I genuinely enjoy political debate and this is the only place I do it. It's fun for me. I totally get why you might not enjoy it. That is why there needs to be a lot of other stuff.

When I click on your name I see zero posts submitted. You can always help with content, especially if you don't like where it is going. Active participation makes the site a better place.
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i actually like this website , but it seems as though based on my activity/responses/etc. i won't learn a thing because i can't relate to any of the older gentlemen who need a place to vent their calm frustration...WHAT DO MILLENNIALS NEED TO DO TO GET A RESPONSE??? INSULT ME...i want to write and feel like you holygod

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fancylad , if DuckBoy87 , markust123 , and megrendel weren't invited to be mods I don't know what it is you're looking for.
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holygod i nominate mels huge nut
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holygod I don't know what it is you're looking for.

I'd go with the lurkers. The ones who have been here regularly for a decade but havent managed to rack up over 1000 posts.   
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rumham eat that shit kalron!
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Feel the need to write about this. I work overnight at a grocery store. Not quite a supermarket, but we have a deli and spirits and cut our own meat. Pasty kid comes in last night with his girlfriend, leans on the counter and goes...

"I need to see what you've got in that register."

I go, "Are you fucking serious right now?"

He leans back, sticks his hand in the front of his pants like he has a gun and says, "Yeah, nigga."

I watch for a few seconds. He roots around for a bit, because he doesn't even know how to pretend like he has a gun. Up to his wrist in his own pants. I'm like... Fuck this noise.

So I maced him.

He took off out the door, his girl looking like a deer in headlights after him. Locked the door behind them, called the cops.

Seriously. Whitest kid I ever saw. Turns out he was 17, living in one of the most upper class neighborhoods in my state, and he's going to try and pull off a, "Yeah, nigga?"

Pathetic.
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profworm why was he reaching in his pants, your the one with the balls!  But seriously why risk it? You work at a grocery store, unless you own the joint don’t risk your life. Ya’ll feel me? 
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profworm Are you black? Or he just calls people "nigga" regardless of race?
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holygod probably a typo. he meant Wigga
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holygod I'm a freckled white Irishman with a red beard. The kid was a tool.
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profworm so, you have ginger-vitus?

Could be worse. You could be Welsh. Or a Kiwi. Or, gods-forbid, a Queenslander...Or worse, Taswegian.

I'd like to pass a motion: all insults about Queenslanders and Taswegians, no matter how disrespectful, rude, obscene, or physically impossible, should be free from any and all moderation. stiffler and barry9a will understand why. 

Oh, and, it goes without saying, the Welsh. Comments that are disrespectful to the Welsh are like....mandatory, surely? And it's not like most of them can even read....:-)
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buttersrules what do you call a sheep with its head stuck in a fence in tasmania?

Its a lesiure centre!

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stifler The Welsh invented condoms by wrapping a sheep's lower intestine around their members.

The English improved on the design some years later by taking the intestine out of the sheep first.
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profworm I can't vouch for this but I have heard that in Wales the punishment for stealing a sheep was death or deportation.  The punishment for shagging it was having your ear clipped or something.  " Stealing it?  No, I was just going to shag it."
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stifler 
wrong.....
it's Barrys mum!

boom-tish.....come for the comedy, stay for the veal....or lamb. Or mutton dressed as lamb=......
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buttersrules did you identify my reply-post to you?! Or too many pale ales?!

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stifler I saw it, I thought I had it worked out...but the Coopers brothers must have got the best of me. Either that, or east coast shenanigans worked their pagan magik on this poor innocent southerner. And evil east coasters have a decidedly Welsh influence....
Conspiracy! Conspiracy!.....Every single one of you IAB liberals are trying to prevent me having private communication with stifler! HG is mentally projecting an image of a baboons bum at me, when the answer is koala testicles! NF2 has been repeating the mantra 'vegemite, vegimite, i want some, want some vegemite" silently under his breath for the last 11.732647 hours, in a deliberate attempt to throw me off the answer (which is promite smeared on weet-bix). And sqrlz? Don't get me started on what HE did.....

Or, alternatively, the short version is I saw it but am too stupid to work it out, and man enough to admit it..... 

edit
for shits and giggles, I created a new account at the G....

lorrainebaylysdildo

I couldn't fit 'commemorative' in there, it was too long (which is just what she said to Dave Sullivan!)
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buttersrules good think the west wannabe SA's didnt just raise your favourite beer by 300% too :)
ha!
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buttersrules VIVA LA VEGIMITE!

Take this site back!
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profworm I guess that's slightly better. At least he is just a tool and not a racist.
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holygod I'm not 100% convinced that would be racism. With a hard 'R' though, yes. The intentions are different.
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profworm Glad you're okay. I had a very similar experience in about 2008 or 2009. I was a college kid working the overnight shift at a Sunoco. It was Halloween morning, about 2 am.

I'm stocking cigarettes, as per my routine, and this white kid in a hoodie walks in. He has the hood over his eyes, and marker in a crisscross pattern on his lower face, a box cutter was gripped firmly in his left hand.

"Gimme the money!" he shouts.
"Excuse me?" I bemusingly ask.
"You heard me, open the register!"
I slam the carton of cigarettes on the counter, "Are you f***in' serious!?"
"Y-y-yeah, gimme the money! ... ", he's stammering at this point.
"Am I gonna have to call the cops?"

At this point I'm slowly making my way towards the phone, 5 feet away, and hidden behind the lotto display. I also have 3 box cutters sitting next to the phone.

He, on the other hand, turns around and starts making his way to the door.
My hand is on the phone, I didn't pick it up yet.
He makes another 180 and comes back to the counter, maybe 10 feet away.

"I have a gun!", now he has some determination in his voice.
Calling his bluff, because I know he doesn't, "Yeah, I'm calling the cops"
I pick up the phone and dial. I've never seen anyone run faster than he did when the receiver was up to my ear.

Within the next month, there had been a string of robberies in the area at other gas stations/convenience stores.

Boss gave me a $50 gift card, and a couple days off.
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DuckBoy87 I will never understand an employee that want to risk his life. Usually the employers have insurances for this kind of problems so i really think that is very stupid to do the "hero"...for what? For 200 dollars in the register? Are you kidding me? Boss will be refunded by insurance but you gonna lose your life eventually.

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piperfawn Didn't feel my life was in danger. I was young and stupid. *shrugs*

I wouldn't do it now.
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profworm Being held up can't be a fun or enviable situation.  Glad you are okay.
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normalfreak2 It's not. Best resolution or no, I had crazy adrenaline at that point. I've been doing this a long time. I always tell the young guys the same thing...

No matter how cool you think you are, when someone points a gun at you... You are not as cool as you think you are.

Frankly I'm glad I'm okay too. It's a lot to process, and I'm kinda drunk now. And I have to work again tonight, which is going to be less than stressless.

I'm buying a taser. I don't want to carry a gun, even thought this state allows it, I just don't want to. I know rifles and shotties well enough, as a farm kid growing up. But carrying for the purpose of potentially ending human life is a rubicon I don't want to cross unless I feel there is no other recourse.
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profworm I'm glad you're okay.  If you ever decide the mace isn't enough, I highly advise not carrying a gun until you get some good range-time in if you haven't handled one in a while.  
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melcervini I'm more worried about bystanders down range of the robber.
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Draculya thus the range/training time. :)
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profworm
Wigga what?

Here's one of mine:

Couple weeks back, I'm called over to the bar. Bartender has cut a guy off, and he's getting belligerent with her. I tell him it's time to leave, he refuses, so I remove him.

Once outside, he's on a cell calling the cops, telling them I assaulted him. I leave him outside, and watch from the window to see him later pick up a ceramic umbrella stand from the side of the patio. I think he's gonna throw it through the window, so I step back out. 

Sure enough, he decides to throw it at me instead, but because its so heavy, he struggles to give it a good heave. I easily side step it, as it comes crashing down and breaks.

I tell him he's gonna wait for the cops he's called, grab him, pin him against the patio railing, and slap cuffs on him.

Cops show up, he acts up with them, and is subsequently slammed to the ground. They take him off my hands.

Some people are intent to make things worse for themselves.
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jaysingrimm I've been at this particular job for 4 and a half years now. I'm graveyard shift, and also 90% of loss prevention here. I so want to start a youtube channel of videos of the shit that happens at night, but I don't want to make my store look bad either.

But exactly that... This kid thought he was going to come in, make some threats, and our corporate culture was going to implore me to give him the money. But we're a mom and pop. I did what I felt I had to to protect our assets. I'm employee of the fucking month.

Which is a combo breaker, because Fluffy the goldfish has held that title for the last three years running.
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profworm 
Move over Fluffy!

Yeah, we often create a second home for ourselves where we work.  

Be safe, IAB needs you here!
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profworm 4 and a half years, and the goldfish has been employee of the month for 3 of them? that must be one incredible goldfish.

you can never know for sure what you will do in a situation like that. your adrenaline was pumping, you worked there for almost half a decade, that is your mom and pop store, and you defended it. you deserve to get drunk. your next day off, try to do something special just for you, you deserve that too.

glad youre okay.
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so basically write something to prove your not a mod...something outrageous..like Trump will be reelected
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dieseljuice1891 Hell, i'd almost bet on him winning, at this point
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How 2FA works.

I have a channel on IRC at synirc.net. It is called #stifler. I have owned it for years.

You are welcome to join it because it doesnt matter to anyone. You can join it with your name here in IAB (this is your nick when you connect to synirc). It also doesnt matter, you can use a different name or a new name every day - but you are going to need to prove yourself.

Here is the example how:

Buttersrules joins and sends a message saying "gimme squirlz addy". I PM him and say fine, login into IAB and post some random comment like "Wombats are better when smothered in peanut butter" as YOU on IAB.

He does that and gets it right. It's him.!

Then I ask squrlz if he can have it. Squrlz say no - fuck off. I tell Butterrules to suck on dingos kidneys!

Most all sites do 2FA.

What is really sad is that back in 200x I signed up here with some bullshit email addy. And only last year I checked it and it was still the same bs email from 15 years ago. So I changed it. Low and behold, this site just did it! didnt even send me a confirm email to click on.

This site is so ARPANET era. :-p

So IAB just needs to do it the same, but opposite and with email. Its not 100% using email, it is so much more annoying for someone to have to signup for a whole new email just for a puppet account. let the runaround burn them out!
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Holy shit guys. I go on for vacation for a week and it ends up being the most interesting time ever on IAB? 

This shit is too nuts.

1. The first time most of us, including Sqrlz I believe, EVER heard the term "sock puppet" was when 5cats accused us of using sock puppets. I had to google what the fuck it meant.

2. People, right or wrong, accused him of using sock puppets. Keep in mind that is an accusation that he was the first one to ever levy.

3. He feels being accused of using sock puppets is "an attack".

4. He feels that to "defend" himself (against the grave, grave crime of having multiple accounts on a website) he needs to tell people to kill themselves, threaten them, say the most vile things I have literally ever read online, and then post multiple disgusting mutilated animal photos.

Can we pause for a minute and realize how insanely fucked up that is? Everyone pretty much agrees that is not the behavior of a rational person. That is some next level batshit crazy serial killer shit.

That being said, like him or hate him, 5cats has been a big part of this site for a decade and obviously this site has been a big part of his life. Somebody needs to help him. I'm not talking about the avatar and the online persona that has at times made me want to throw my laptop across the room, I'm talking about the real person behind it. 

What little I know about him IRL leads me to believe that this might be one of his few support networks and now when he is so clearly spiraling out of control we've taken that away from him.

I know you are out there 5cats and I want you to know that as much as I fundamentally hate almost everything you say and condemn some of the vile shit you have done, as a fellow human being, I love you. Please go talk to someone and get some help. You might not think you need it, but maybe that is the problem.


P.S. I never attacked you for being disabled please let that lie go.

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holygod You are likely correct about him needing help.  I used to get upset at the vitriol I would read from some people online, and then at some point I figured out those people that are the most vicious are people who are angry and hurt, and that doesn't go away when they turn off the computer.  
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christopher_bourne You just glossed right over the last few paragraphs huh?
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christopher_bourne OK, well I tried to reach out to you, but you only want to see the world from your perspective.
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christopher_bourne The ford / volvo isn't the right analogy.

You don't just shit on obamacare, you shit on raising the minimum wage, you shit on food stamps, you shit on public housing, you shit on public education, you shit on welfare, you shit on public broadcasting, you shit on all kinds of social programs that benefit people in need, like you.

So it isn't that you drive a volvo and you shit on ford. You drive a volvo and you shit on all cars, except volvo. The one social service YOU USE is great, but all the OTHER ones that might help OTHER people are shit.
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christopher_bourne I've never said you are on welfare. I've said you live off a government social program. Seeing as how a government social program saved your life I just wished you were more of a champion of government social programs.
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christopher_bourne 

"If I wasn't disabled you wouldn't be saying it, correct?"

Actually no. You keep bringing up only CPP, but I also have talked about your healthcare system. I think America should have universal healthcare. I don't think access to healthcare should be a luxury any more than access to education or police should be.

You, a person who could otherwise not afford it, have access to mental health and medical services. I want all my countrymen to as well. You fight against it, which I in fact find more hypocritical than anything with CPP, and it upsets me.

Again, Obamacare was not ever intended to be a fix. It was a step in the right direction. More people had access to healthcare plain and simple. You say that it wasn't worth the expense to others. Well how would you feel if people said the expense to them was not worth YOU having healthcare? I'm sure plenty of Canadians probably feel that way. Why should they work and pay taxes so that you can go to the doctor?

Luckily, in your country, the health of ALL citizens is valued more than personal greed.
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christopher_bourne "Canada does not have 'Universal healthcare'" Really? Universal healthcare just means healthcare is provided to all citizens. That isn't the case in Canada? Wikipedia seems to think it is.

Nobody "wants or needs" health insurance until they need it. I don't want or need car insurance either. I've been driving 20 years and I have literally NEVER had a collision or filed a claim. However, I have it because I have to have it.
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christopher_bourne "It isn't 'universal'" That isn't what universal healthcare means mate. Universal means it applies to everyone, not that it applies to everything.
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christopher_bourne "Doesn't America's healthcare system apply to everyone?"

Yes. Everyone that can afford it. If you don't have insurance or money you can go fuck off.

The Canadian government paid for 70% of all medical expenses last year according to wikipedia.

The US government paid for 0% unless you are on medicaid or medicare.

To me "universal healthcare" means everyone in the country has health insurance (which is what I meant when I said access to helthcare) and "single payer" means the federal government pays for the health insurance.

I would think by defining "universal healthcare" as meaning all medical procedures are covered it means no countries have universal healthcare. I mean are their countries where vaginal rejuvenations are covered?

You've been polite. You have been to me as of lately. To be honest I don't even mind a bit of juvenile name-calling or one-upmanship like "you can't be this dumb" or "idiot". I don't take them personally and then I feel like it's OK to reciprocate. It's just a matter of keeping it for sport and not crossing lines.


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holygod He deserved the ban and he isn't gone so.... If mods don't do something now, there is no reason for someone to see that behavior and not think they can do the same shit and then the whole site is toxic trolls. 
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marsii I'll let him vent.  I don't see the harm.
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normalfreak2 the danger is he settles in again and becomes entrenched. The man was banned, not just the account. He needs to go cold turkey and learn to rely on his caseworker, not people who hate him.
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normalfreak2 I see how what I said might have been confusing. I don't think you need to do anything further yet. I do think the 5Cats account needed to be banned so that people see that the type of thing he did resulted in consequences. 
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holygod Welcome back!  I too was worried you weren't bluffing.  As far are the past goes, I've been around long enough to have witnessed the EPIC Holygod vs 5Cats threads.  I can attest to the fact that not once did you directly insult 5Cats for personal reasons.  However, I have on many occasions read comments that you should kill yourself, go fuck your mother or father, die a number of horrible deaths...you get the point.

But you are correct, lets not dwell on the past but offer help for the future.
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holygod while you were away, we voted you mod.
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holygod Glad you've gone past the 111,111th comment - you had me scared! I completely agree - 5cats needs help. I hope modding will help remove the toxicity in his posts and over time he'll learn to do it himself. 
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holygod.   I was never accused of  being a squirlz  sockpuppet
I feel neglected
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thezigrat Sqrlz once accused me of being Sqrlz.
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Draculya Squirlz claimed pretty much everyone as one of his socket puppets in that one post.  He got me, so I don't know how he could have missed thezigrat.
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muert I wasn't sure whether to be offended or proud.
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Male 28
As far as verification goes, I humbly offer the following possibility. Get the user address and mail a code to their address. Then said user has to input the secret code (cause it's cooler if you call it that) into their profile. How many requests a week do you guys still get?
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longLurker well that doesnt really solve the problem of people with multiple accounts.
they could still make three different emails and then verify multiple accounts.
There would have to be some type Of IP verification.
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bill_watson (I think the joke is that he means a physical address)
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what no offer for me? 
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bill_watson ive got a whole 163 posts, atleast give me the opportunity to say no.
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Male 913
I've been a lurker since about 2003. One day I typed 'I am bored" into google and this world was revealed. 
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Male 18,342
toetagmodel2 that's how I got here too. The first post I recall was lightsaber boy. I lurked for a while too.
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Male 895
Draculya Heh.. I think when I signed up it was call youthink.com or something.. and then it had a chatroom.. that was quite fun.
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Male 671
I'll help verify the ladies.  Send nudes to prove you're real.  We'll call it Faptcha.
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Male 7,414
Beaverfever. As long as it is not like that Captcha. When IAB Had that I could not even log or or even email Fancy to let him know of the problem
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Male 671
thezigrat That's the security part.  So secure you can't get around it, ever.
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Male 4,103
Beaverfever what if i identify as a female meat popsicle?
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Male 671
robthelurker Frigid women need love too.
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Male 938
robthelurker I think this might be the biggest wank I have ever had..
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Male 4,103
stifler youre welcome. its nice to know theres someone thinking of me.
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Female 9,780
Bummer about squirlz, he was one of my favorite people on the site. Anyway, if there is a way to verify users, I will the one of the first people to sign up. I've been been coming here since the mid-2000's, and would love to help where needed. 
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Male 21,778
Thanks, panth753
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Male 1,124
Say, was the site an exercise in anarchy or libertarianism? 
If so, was it a demonstration of a failure of such a system?
If so, did it turn from anarchy into... Hm?
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Male 21,778
bearbear01 no, not really. I was hoping everyone would be civil, but all it takes is one bad apple. The line was crossed with that photo of the squirrel with the arrow. 
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fancylad I wasn't passing any judgement, but I was wondering in hindsight. Upon this, how did it come to it? As you said, people strayed too far, thus they needed (and asked for) an overseer. In so, wouldn't that demonstrate that a powerful overseer is required to keep civility? And wanted?
Just musings, nothing more. 
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Male 9,577
christopher_bourne Or his using puppets (and NormalFreak2 also, among others) to circumvent that silence and bait me into speaking "with him" (ie: with his puppet).


Wait what?  What in the world are you blathering about?
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Male 18,342
christopher_bourne they weren't a group of persons they were all you and you remain the least innocent person I've ever come across on the internet.
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Draculya Really?

on note: why aren't people like Dracuyla and butters being banned? fancylad

It's your site, so either you admit that rules only apply to some people and the aim of the site is really to be a socialliberal echo-camber. If you want it to have open discussions everyone need to be treated the same in regard to the rules.
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Male 18,342
Fojos sure go ahead. I'd be cool with that. 
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Fojos I like this comment because it implies that threats, insults, and dead squirrel pictures are typical conservative behavior that we should tolerate.
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marsii Not very good with the thinking. No, it means people who are liberal (to be honest as someone who follows liberalism it's really an insult to call any of you liberals, when you're really too left to be actual liberals) should also be banned when they are making threats. Go figure, echocamberguy.
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Male 18,342
Fojos *echochamberguy. A camber is the curvature of a road to allow surface drainage.
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Male 490
Draculya echo... oo... oo... o... o...
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Male 18,342
Fojos try quacking like a duck. I'm told ducks don't echo.
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Male 1,319
christopher_bourne lets test out the moderation....

I'm said not nice things and my comment was moderated.


On a side note buttersrules I understand what you were getting at but that crossed the line.  NF2
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Male 4,103
buttersrules dont sink to his level. your point has been noted.
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Male 1,319
robthelurker about 10 years too late....
Remember the great stuff that Ferdyfred used to post? The witty banter that Lionhart used to engage in? And so many others that are no longer around, most of whome have been gone for so long, their usernames escape me.

I can't remember when I first started to post, or when I first signed up, even....but I DO remember when I started to come to this site...roughly. Mid 2003, -ish. Would have started posting comments sometime between then and march of 2005. I remember, because of where I was working at the time....I have a feeling it was a differant username, would have been some variant of Butters, but if I remember correctly, I didn't post for ages, forgot my password, and couldn't retrieve it, as had changed emails (and couldn't access the email account for password recovery)...so was easier to create a new account. But have been around with my current username for at least the last seven or eight years....but I digress.

Back in the day, this site had members from all over the world. UK, Ireland, Europe, Asia, Australia/NZ....as well as US and Canada. I remember once that I was even asked to be a mod, to help cover the timezones of the asia-pacific region (that was Davy's idea, back then, the membership was very diverse).
I recall there were several members from Hong Kong, I'm pretty sure there were a few from Malaysia and Singapore. Dutch, Danes, French. A few from South America. Heaps from the UK....to name but a few.
Now, what do we have? Not a lot. Diversity is sorely lacking, both in membership and content. And it's not like this is the first time this has come up. This has been a topic that has been mentioned ad nauseum for ages, and ages, and ages.....

Ignore everyting that's been posted in the last few days....what preceeds that? Partisan political posts, for the most part, with an occasional interesting (or not so interesting) piece thrown in.

Do you remember when you could click on the category of post? Or, more correctly, when there were SO many posts, that you HAD to browse by category, because otherwise there were too many to read? I do. So many fine contributors gone. Why? Sick of the same old bullshit, I expect. Can it be fixed? Or is it too late? I think, unfortunately, I know the answer to that one.

Yes, i was deliberately being obtuse and offensive to make a point, and yes, as you say, I think I've made it. Even without this long diatribe.
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Male 9,577
buttersrules If you want I'd love to have contributions from Down under.  We are a global community!
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buttersrules I remember fun webgames!

TISM - The Phillip Ruddock Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQShSBhzG40&app=desktop
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Male 895
stifler I remember the video conferences.. Can't remember which website they use though...
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Male 4,103
buttersrules i remember. like many on here, i checked the site out for years before actually making an account. i finally made an account when i was stuck at my mothers place for thanksgiving, and i was so bored i had to interact with the crazy people commenting. i got into a drunken argument with gerry early on, but i was awarded an i-am-bored wreath of excellence for my rolling of the coin scene selection comment from a fellow member. that was when i knew i belonged. i remember swaywithme, my first and only internet crush, and i remember lalapancakes, who i still hope to hear from again, its been over a year i think.

as the aussie keeps saying, it might be too little too late, but if we stick together, we can bring back the glory days of iab. the other members may be gone, but we can still get new ones, ones that are in their own ways just awesome as the ones before, and maybe we can even bring some of the old ones back. we can make the site diverse again. we shouldnt look back at the posts that precedes the last few days, we should focus on new awesome content and posts for the future.

youre here now, youre commenting, youre contributing. stay with us and help make this site better.
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buttersrules Don't give'em the clickbait to generate revenue.
Also christopher_bourne / 5cats cannot really be cunts, cunts are useful. They are more like bunions.

We need to catch up for a beer! (stay tuned!)
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christopher_bourne Grow a pair, show some dignity for once in your life.
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buttersrules if he doesn't leave, maybe I can get my security consultant to track him down IRL.
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Male 4,103
Draculya your point has also been noted. no need to involve irl scenarios.
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robthelurker I for one would have liked to send a couple of the lads round to see whether he is as confrontational face to face.
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Male 4,103
Draculya threats are what made a pillar of this community leave in the first place. it might be effective, but it might also drive away possible future pillars of this community. if we are better than the way he acted, then its not too little too late.
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christopher_bourne I did moderate his comment.  He crossed the line.
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christopher_bourne

No you were removed because you were CONSISTENTLY threatening people.   Seven months ago, you had a meltdown in which you used homophobic slurs, extraordinarily vile insults, and urged IAB members to kill themselves. That prompted some discussion about having moderators and possibly banning you then. In the following two days, you developed a version of a defense in which, you claimed, you had been "holding up a mirror" to show other IABers how bad their behavior was.   This is the same lame defense you used last time.  No one does what you "perceive" they are doing.  Just like all of your other Points of View, you WANT TO BELIEVE those things.  Whether or not they are true or not.  You cannot find anyone you claimed was doing the "Same thing" as you.  Feel free to post any supporting evidence but I never read anyone threatening people to kill themselves.  Anywho, quit moving the goalposts.   You had a chance here to do the right thing by admitting you were at fault, instead you do what all cowards in your position do, blame it on someone or something else.  I'm sick of the "poor me" attitude.  You ARE NOT innocent in this.  No one is "picking on you or your disability".  What you perceive isn't reality.  It's time to take a deep look inside to find the problem and honestly do what HolyGod said, take this opportunity to get help.  You are my fellow Countryman.  I would NEVER wish harm on any fellow Canadian.  We have to be able to disagree without being disagreeable.
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christopher_bourne People disagreeing with you, even heated disagreement is just that.  Attacking your IDEAS is FINE is ALLOWED.  Most of the time people weren't attacking you.  Did it get heated sometimes between you and holygod?  Absolutely but again I don't put them in the same realm as threatening.  To me you are tryinig to equate behaviors.  What you did, is NOT THE SAME or on the SAME LEVEL as what others have done/said.
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normalfreak2 Lookit u all big and moddy. Nice.
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Male 18,342
marsii I know. I was very impressed.
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Male 4
I've been around this site since the late 90s early 2000's but haven't been an active user as far as communicating with you guys and even less so since the site went down a while back (once you break the habit of checking a site every morning before work you just don't miss it) I feel bad for Squrlz4ever, I know what it's like being put in a volatile situation and just made to feel like I should just deal with it. I think every account should be verified possibly through IP addresses & email verification as well as a group of straight shooting mods. 
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Josh McConnell yeah, it seems like some people are for verified, and some aren’t, but to me, it’s just peace of mind. If you see someone verified, you don’t have to worry about the BS that comes with the shell game.

Also, good to see a new face from an old user.
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Male 4
fancylad I'm there with you, . why wouldn't anyone want verified accounts unless they were the problem?
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Male 1,859
Mods are good. If the sock puppet problem persists and the mods can't handle it then move on to verify. Mods are already a big step up that I'm looking forward to.
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Male 21,778
marsii I think you may be right. It’ll probably proceed in stages, if anything, just to give sunny some runway time.
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Well I thought fuck IAB and was not going to post this, then figured it was a disservice to Squrlz4ever. He penned it and ask me to share it, so I will.

Quote: "
If you could convey three things to IAB, I'd be grateful. First, I saw Fancy's apology in the Open Forum and gladly accept it. The changes he's set in motion were both unexpected and welcome. Second, the many kind comments that were posted in the wake of my departure stunned me, frankly. I was touched by how gracious and supportive so many IAB'ers were. Third, I've just started a week's vacation and will be catching up on sleep, taking a lot of deep cleansing breaths, and giving my brain some time to process all that's transpired.

Okay, Stif. That's all for the moment.
 
Yours in loopiness,
Squrlz
"

So there you go. I know that there is still no interest in him returning to IAB. 
As I said below 12 hours ago, Too little - too late. (rumham, yeah yeah! she said it again! :-P  )

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stifler I’m glad you’re in touch with him and that he knows he’s universally supported here.
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fancylad I will be my frank honest self in reply, fancy.

I think you are very fucking lucky to get any response from Squrlz. I told you about 9 months to "man up and do what needs to be done". IE ban that cunt 5cats when he went postal last time (and so did others, with less Aussie eloquence)

You didn't.
This happened.
You probably needed this to learn a lesson.
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Female 9,780
stifler Tell squirlz he is one of my favorite people on be site, and I hope to see him back on the site soon. 
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panth753 He knows :)
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Female 6,611
stifler  Send him this  >_>
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Male 938
melcervini only if you send me the unabridged version first :-P
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Male 7,414
stifler. I can send you one of mine
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/me gets the hand cream ready
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Male 7,414
stifler. I know I am good looking ( and modest) but is that not a bit of an over reaction?
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Male 938
/me installs cock-ring.
This might be a double dp. IE a double, double :P (eh! Canada anyone!!)

Omg. IASBOTFSS...



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Male 5,608
stifler Thanks for sharing, it's good to hear.  I hope he at least checks in and lurks to see if change happens, hopefully we can make it the place it once was and maybe...just maybe he will pay us a visit with his fluffy tail raised high :)
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Male 7,414
kalron27. Tell you the truth
I would not mind having him over for dinner
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Male 5,608
thezigrat I'm sure you would ;)
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Male 6,309
kalron27 Exactly!
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Male 1,393
I am all for verification and have already sent in my stool sample. I hope you don't mind it's COD.
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Male 5,239
Just an observation, whenever I see a post with tons of comments (150+) depending on the content of the post, I can usually guess the handful of the exact same members that have been bickering back and forth. Seems to work for them.
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Male 45,293
Fancylad How do we know who's a mod?  Will the name be in RED or BOLD ?
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Male 7,414
Gerry1of1.  It's tatooed on the back of their neck
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Male 21,778
Gerry1of1 yes, I’m asking Sunny to code something right by the avatar.
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Male 7,414
fancylad. Maybe when a member is banned it bans by the email and the account that way a banned member can not just open a new account to get back on. 1 email per account per screen name
Although it will not make sock puppets impossible
It will make them more difficult to create
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Male 938
Gerry1of1 click on their user name!

It says "Users Admin". Presumably that is two user groups, Users and Admin!!
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Male 2,294
My opinion is that mods, operating on some guidelines along the lines of limiting threatening comments and insults should keep thing in line pretty well.

As far as verification goes I’m pretty open to whatever is agreed to but I draw the line at stool samples:)
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Male 1,124
christopher_bourne in the words of Aragorn, show them no mercy, for you shall receive none.
Otherwise said, go fuck yourself. 
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Male 7,138
christopher_bourne GO to reddit, subreddit The_Donald, massive conservative echo chamber jacking off about the evils of all things liberal and giving praise to their god emperor trump.  You will love it there.
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christopher_bourne
5cats, there's no excuse for telling multiple members to kill themselves, sharing a diagram illustrating how, voicing targeted slurs, and posting graphic images of a dead squirrel, in what can easily be perceived as a threat to the person represented by an avatar (the only way we know him).

You and I were getting along, but geez dude, you went too far.
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Male 258
christopher_bourne the overuse of the question mark throughout your post tells me that you are 5cats. the format in which you speak is sooooo similar its crazy!
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christopher_bourne 

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christopher_bourne At least walk away with dignity. 
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Male 9,577
christopher_bourne David, cut it out.


Let's be honest, You are a vile person.  I'm not going to beat around the bush, You are simply toxic.  You do not want to have a conversation, you want to dictate and demand.  You are a grown ass man that acts like a petulant child.  You brought it upon yourself.
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normalfreak2 Wow, didn't know anybody else knew his real name, lol
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DuckBoy87 I remember, I've been coming here for over a Decade.
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christopher_bourne Hi 5Cats, glad to see that you are taking your banning well. Maybe you should take a little time and reflect on how you got to this situation rather then lashing out. 
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