People Watching Plus: Humans = Sheep

Submitted by: DickenMcHunt 8 years ago in

People Watching Plus from Rune Madsen on Vimeo.


People Watching Plus is a number social experiment exploring the extent of human behavior malleability.
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Female 1,356


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Male 25,414
ITs what we have been trained to do for safety!
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Male 9
You are being stupid, by dismissing my arguments and acting like it`s a personal attack, or you are just trolling, either way this discussion is now pointless.
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Male 127
"Of course people are not mindless sheep, but they behave like sheep when they accept stuff without questioning, reasoning"

Here is where we disagree, if they were to `reason` based on their previous directive (I need to get to point B - because I have a meeting/want to go to that store, whatever reason) then the REASONABLE action would be to follow barrier. IF they were to change their directive (find out why the cones were there) THEN they should question, but for most walking on the sidewalk - its not worth their time.
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Male 127
"@Narninian
You are simplifying the situation to a lower level of understanding. "

There is no `higher calling` here

"We could just simplify it a little more and say that the video shows nothing but a street where some people walk by, and that there are some cones, they must walk from point A to point B"

Which is exactly what is is minus the `must`.

"and there`s only one path to follow,"

Where did I say that?
"and by doing so they are smart" - Yes, following the path is what the logical thing to do is in most cases, unless you`re curious why there there and would rather find out then do whatever you were doing is.

"We would acknowledge this fact IF those cones where placed there for a good reason. "

The people passing by don`t magically know they they weren`t put there for a good reason. We do as the video observers, but the people in the crowd do not.
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Female 1,893
i would be that one person jumping over.. and uhh did u guys see that biker?? wat was he planning on riding over? lol
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Male 9
@Narninian
You are simplifying the situation to a lower level of understanding. We could just simplify it a little more and say that the video shows nothing but a street where some people walk by, and that there are some cones, they must walk from point A to point B and there`s only one path to follow, so they must follow this path, and by doing so they are smart, and that`s it, no more conclusions can be drawn.

We would acknowledge this fact IF those cones where placed there for a good reason. This is not the case. The cones where placed there to change behavior, to make them walk a longer path, to show that they are being herded, or manipulated (in this case with no harm) and that this is an easy thing to do, while most won`t acknowledge.

Of course people are not mindless sheep, but they behave like sheep when they accept stuff without questioning, reasoning or if they just can`t find out the scam.
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Female 249
wow that was a waste of time. some people have no lives.
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Male 127
I am perfectly able to grasp that you`re attempting to see something at a larger scale that is simply not shown. What is shown here, is people in public respecting a barrier (and sometimes not). Whether you want to interpret that incorrectly as people being mindless sheep, that is up to you. However, Following the path, whether doing subconsciously or making a decision to do it is the logical thing to do, and being the logical thing - humans should be doing it.




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Male 225
yawn

no wisdom here
just weird music
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Male 1,834
damn you caution tape you get me every time
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Male 9
@Narninian, curved path > straight line.
We are making an analysis of human behavior at a larger scale, that you are still unable to grasp. Anyway, you are wrong when you believe that people are not better off `thinking more`. Most people live hypnotized, narcotized and fearful to a point where they can`t think much, and, I`m sorry, but this can NEVER be a good sign.
If they took a little time, and “lost” a few seconds to evaluate the situation they would be behaving more like humans should, not like sheep do.

If you say that, it would be more costly to jump, well, for some it would others it would not.
If you say that the WORST decision would be to stop, think and see that this is a scam, and then take a few seconds to clear the way for you and for others, then I wouldn`t think much of you.
But if you say that, even if they stopped, that it was hard for most of them to decide it was a scam and just keep going is the best decision they can afford
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Male 9
Nice catch, @Lolboy. Now, following your line of thought: When such an event happens, when the system starts to collapse due to abusive exploitation of the rules that make it work, only those who can see the situation from a further distance have the information required to decide if they must take the jump, remove the cones or kick the person doing this, while those too close from the event, or that are born inside it, are unable to see that they are in a trap, remaining stuck there.
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Male 127
@mmdue I still don`t think the people shown here in the video would necessarily be better off `thinking more`, then simply avoid the barrier as the majority of them did.

As I said earlier, the barrier could easily have been there to prevent traffic for a reason that can`t be immediately seen. They could have stopped and evaluated the situation, and found there was no reason to avoid the barrier (taking them more time) or they could have simply ignored them barrier to be a rebel and to fight sheep like behavior - but this response to other situations could cause them to walk in wet paint, or inconvenience a construction crew.
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Male 798
I thought it also made another interesting point: That once the social structure becomes too burdened, possibly by someone exploiting it, people will begin to break it and it becomes irrelevant.
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Male 9
What the artist is trying to say is that social structures and rules are important and useful, and that`s why we don`t think too much about breaking them. However, it is because we don`t do much thinking that others can exploit it, if they don`t care and don`t want to live by the same rules, or if they believe they are better or more important than everyone else to the point of treating you like sheep, or like an animal to be herded.

We have a natural tendency to act like sheep, it is important to follow and copy others if you don`t have good skills to survive. Some people exploit this behavior, by perverting our trust and good will, providing the illusion of success while guiding your decisions without your knowledge.

So, we must stop doing that, not by systematically breaking the rules, but by realizing that we can be herded too, that this is not a good thing, and we should think more, read more, care about important and interesting issues and be more rational and c
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Male 2,388
The only way to combat this sort of behaviour for yourself is tosay to yourself next time you see such a rediculous diversion I will change it either step over it or even (shocker) move the cones out the way. I would fall for it to but not anymore. THis is a prime example of an fnord
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Male 7
@SarahofBorg I think your forgetting a valuable human quality...it`s fun to jump! :D
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Male 1,929
What point is this trying to make? A crap one?
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Female 3,562
I still disagree BigMordecai. I know if I`m walking along and I see a barrier like that I automatically think it`s faster to go through without stopping if nobody is blocking my way than it is to STOP walking so I can step over it. People are merely choosing the most efficient way to go, it has nothing to do with social norms.
Think of it this way. You`re walking along and there`s a giant puddle in your way. You could walk around it, or you could jump over it. WHY would you jump over it? There`s just no reason to.
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Male 74
I think you could put a big red button with a sign that says `do not press` above it on a busy sidewalk and if you filmed it for a day, you could find 2 minutes and 11 seconds worth of people pressing it anyway, bucking the social norms. You can always skew data. So what if some people walked around the tape instead of over it? Some people also use crosswalks even if it means walking a little more. There is a difference between sheep and lethargy.
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Male 127
I agree with the others that calling this behavior being equivalent of humans being mindless sheep is wrong. If I encountered a barrier, I would be inclined to follow the marked off path as well - not because of social pressure, but because in most cases there is a reason it`s been marked off. It could be wet paint; It could be a store needing to set up a staging area, a number of things. Sure - the people could stop to find out what it is - but that would take longer than just walking the marked path. Now in some of those cases, it was obvious there were people on other other side of the barrier and there was no reason to walk along the path- and when that was seen - people walked over the barrier.

This doesn`t prove in any way that people can`t think for themselves as valtes suggests. People shown here are respecting social customs and allowing for the fact that just because they can`t immediately see a reason for the barrier, doesn`t mean there isn`t in. No failure of the h
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Male 94
Well its still interesting to watch as according to ordinances in most cities those cones do not mark off danger and are not the proper kind so through a simple line of reasoning and observation its easy to decide to go over which for most able bodied people is much less time and effort (time the people sarah). However social norms and group think tells people to follow this, it is almost like social manners. It is when these rules are overly controlling, when a problem starts, such as the Kitty case where a woman was murdered as people simply continued on there way. It is hardly a display of critical thinking though, but does accurately portray intelligent thought process and choice to certain social norms which are in this case not so large as especially when there was more traffic pressure people went over. Some of the people going over the guy actually quickly went through to blur them out asap. Its just as interesting to watch which sort of people went over.
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Male 9
I don`t think he wants you to rebel against anything, neither to be angry. I think he just wants to show that people can be herded too, pretty much like sheep, and very, very easily. Of course it needs to exploit trust and common sense to work, otherwise we would dismiss or get really angry. It is important for us to trust things throughout our day, we must trust that the floor is really a floor when we walk. If we can`t trust anything we can`t live. So, the message is this: Don`t be angry, don`t feel stupid, don`t start a rebellion, JUST AKNOWLEDGE THAT WE CAN BE HERDED TOO, EASILY. While this stunt is harmless, there are other issues which are not and we should think more critically before making decisions and trusting without reasoning.
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Male 215
This video is stupid. When people see cones they assume they`re there for a reason.

If you want to see people being sheep, here`s a better video to watch.
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Female 3,562
Really now, would you spend extra effort and probably extra time to step over an obstacle when you can just as easily go through/around it? If anything, this shows the complexity of problem solving. The people who step over it realize in an instant that with the crowds blocking their way it would be slower to wait than to step over, so they do the fastest and most efficient thing. Those who wait only have so much patience before they give up and step over.
Honestly I deal with this crap EVERY day because I`m constantly trying to quickly get around idiot people in my way at the store I work at. It`s like navigating a maze with constantly moving idiot obstacles.
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Male 9,305
You are all SHEEEEP! SHEEEEEP!

MAUAHAHAH! I NOW HAVE THE MASTER PLAN FOR WORLD DOMINATION!

I need CONES! Bring me CONES! and yellow TAAAAPE! TAAAAPE! (O_O)^

You WILL bow down to me as you wander around AIMLESSLY in mazes and mazes of yellow tape! HAHAHA!
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Male 2,402
I wonder how many watch these kind of websites?
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Male 958
I feel it shows how lame they are for not just going over the damn things if there walking straight I mean poo there grating, step on that if u need to get over for "cement issues"...
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Male 67
give me my two minutes back
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Male 1,002
They follow the path of cones and tape because they have lived in modern civilization long enough to know that those things represent a warning. I`d really love to see the jackass who made this video slip and knock himself out because he was "rebelling" against a "caution: slippery floor" sign.
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Female 1,236
It`s a big city. Big city dwellers understand that the cones are usually there to help you stear clear of: wet cement, open holes, tar, any other crap you want to avoid. It`s easy to call people sheep. But ,apparently, it`s even easier to create a stupid video that proves jack-sh*t.
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Male 363
This video achieves nothing.
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Male 5,192
>>3) If they walk round it, call them mindless sheep for accepting something so quickly. If they move through it, call them mindless sheep for putting themselves in danger by going through an area that was cordoned off.

Yeah, this is a no-win scenario. A lot of these kinds of "experiments" are just lame.
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Male 505
Valtes:

Proper sentence structure means you come across as though you have a point rather than the inane ramblings of a conspiracy nut. You also seem to clearly care somewhat about the board seeing as you`ve responded to people and evidently checked for replies.

On Topic:

Most people clearly seemed to be going from A to B so why would they stop when they see cones and tape (a clear steer clear warning in our societies) to think "is it there for a reason, and do i have the correct skills and knowledge to know whether it`s keeping me safe or not". It`s not conforming, it`s common sense.
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Male 35
i know proper sentence structure im not going to waste my time being proper on a comment page i dont really care all that much but if you think you can teach me something go ahead. as for the moon i believe we got there but dont care and as for 9/11 well thats a conversation not worth having but yes i do believe that was organized by our government
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Male 35
gorgack if i am a sheep i can admit to it and what conspiracies would ou be speaking of this world is falling apart and blind people like you cant even see it so ill tell you what when you have a clue as to whats going on around you then get back to me until then don`t waste your time or mine
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Male 256
If you really want to watch something mush better than this in terms of "human sheep" search Derren Brown wallet
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Male 76
Heh, sheeples.
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Male 4,680
1) Fence off an area.
2) Observe people`s reactions to it.
3) If they walk round it, call them mindless sheep for accepting something so quickly. If they move through it, call them mindless sheep for putting themselves in danger by going through an area that was cordoned off.
4) Feel superior to everyone else.

@valtes- You`re a sheep for being gullible enough to fall for those "conspiracies".
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Male 768
I don`t understand how this means anything. These people had places to be, and in our society an orange cone traditionally means: Caution, steer clear. In fact, stepping over the line seems foolish, since you have no idea why it`s there.
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Female 1,095
Yea I would have definitely been a black sheep and stepped over.
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Male 1,931
@valtes Someone needs to hold your hand and explain proper sentence structure.
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Male 205
This seems about like pulling a fire-alarm and being mad that people leave the building.. cute, but doesn`t really mean a lot..
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Male 58
@valtes Let me guess, you believe that the government did 9/11, and that we didn`t really go to the moon.
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Male 149
hey valtes... http://youtube.com/watch?v=S0YZTYci5yo

i saw this and thought of you
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Male 35
most of you say this shows nothing maybe thats because you don`t want to admit you are sheep. this proves people cannot think for themselves and just follow along not one person stopped to see why the area was blocked off they just follow with heads down. the human race is failing and its only a matter of time before no one can do anything at all without someone holding there hand to do it children grow dumber and there parents more ignorant to the world around them. but no one wants to fix it because to admit where wrong is very un-American
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Male 452
"Personally I find the idea that "Social Conformity is Bad" to be counterproductive and fundamentally wrong."

I agree, it`s been my experience that people who ascribe to that philosophy are only willing to diverge from the path in so far as it is still within the confines of social acceptability. Being different has it`s price after all.
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Male 208
No s*** you`re not supposed to move cones all willy nilly of course they`ll leave them alone. Dumb experiment that is stupidly trying to make some deep message about humanity.
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Male 2,344
Loved that song..Want
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Male 319
I`m with chimmeychang. If it had just been yellow tape or something on the ground, I think that could have been more interesting.
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Male 3,431
Path of least resistance?

Experiments like this are fundamentally flawed in that the designer of the experiment is trying to condition the outcome with a preconception. In an ironic twist the originator of the experiment has created for himself a similar circumstance in his experiment.

The musical score that corresponds is testament to the undertone of the situation. Personally I find the idea that "Social Conformity is Bad" to be counterproductive and fundamentally wrong. If not for extensive social conformity we would not be the creature that we are nor would we have enjoyed the success our species enjoys.

A population as vast and divergent as ours requires considerable sociability and nonconformity endangers continuity as a species.
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Male 684
the real social experiment was to post a very poorly constructed social experiment to see how people react to something so obviously ill conceived. we are the subjects, our comments are the data.
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Male 742
Well that was stupid.
If you see cones and caution tape, it`s natural to avoid them.
Why shouldn`t you?
They normally warn of some sort of danger.
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Male 1,451
lol at cardboard cones
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Male 1,378
i-am-even-more-bored
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Female 2,695
i don`t really feel like this was much of a social experiment because we are taught that tape and cones are put there for a reason, whether we are aware of the reason or not. it`s not like it was much of an inconvenience for these people to go through the path given to them.
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Male 495
This is a pretty lame "experiment." There are plenty of people walking on the inside along the street. Now if that hadn`t been an option those same people would have probably been the people walking over the tape by the end.
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Male 4,546
Look. Everyone has said something like this already, but here`s the kicker:

People avoid the tape and cones.
Tape and cones are to warn people of things so they naturally do it.

Just because they can`t see an obstacle, doesn`t mean they should ignore the tape (wet cement, something above them, men working at the top of the building risking dropping something, the panes of glass in the doorway are loose and under repair, etc.

Here`s the point: If the tape was only to make people avoid hazards that were already obvious, we would never need the tape.
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Male 1,814
Upon seeing that those cones were doing nothing, I`m sure I would`ve stepped over.
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Female 78
this would barely pass for a social experiment for a junior high assignment. yes, when met with an obstruction people will go with the easiest route around it to be on their way, and we`re trained to walk around traffic cones because they`re usually protecting construction in progress. woop de doo. if i stick a traffic cone in a door way and people walk next to it through the doorway to go through, how interesting would that be? -_-
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Male 236
Seems like they just filmed people who were mostly too lazy to step over or figured the cones were there for a reason. Can`t say i would`ve moved all the cones just to feel like a rebel.
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Male 4,746
I don`t get it. This study shows that people will follow the rules and not cross the "do no cross" caution tape. Nothing amazing, strange or particularly interesting about this at all...
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Male 1,547
I really don`t see what the point of this "social experiment" is. Of course we have trained ourselves to follow cones, they usually mean "danger" or "wet paint". The third one was so obviously not cordoning off an area that almost everyone instinctually understood that they were being f*cked with and ignored it completely.
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Maybe I don`t get it. What does it prove? Typically cones and tape like that are put up to keep people from entering into a dangerous, restricted, or messy areas. Hence tape around open manholes, crime scenes, and fresh paint. Since we use these symbols (cones and tape) to make people aware of their surroundings for their own safety, why wouldn`t people follow them to avoid possible danger?
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Male 2,034
Stupid. People walking are like electricity. We`re going to follow the path of least resistance. If we`ve got the choice between stepping over something or walking around it, we`re going to walk around it.
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Male 72
What`s the significance? Its the social norm, you see yellow tape, you don`t cross it.
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Male 1,255
WTF is the guy on the bike doing at 1:30!?

"Ok, I`m approaching a barrier. I should probably get on my bike... Oh wait, doesn`t look like this is going to pan out in my favor."
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Male 4,290
Haha, I especially liked how some people were still waiting and following the path WHILE he was moving it.

Although to be fair to them, that building does look like it`s under construction or something.
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Female 2,120
It seemed like they could only change it so much before people got fed up and started jumping the rope. So, People = Mostly Sheep?
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Female 275
I`d like to say I`m cool and unique, but I`d totally follow the lines.

It does make me want to do this with a bunch of people, though :)
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Male 552
Watching people walk around roped off areas.

I want my effing 2 minutes back.
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Male 1,299
Link: People Watching Plus: Humans = Sheep [Rate Link] - People Watching Plus is a number social experiment exploring the extent of human behavior malleability.
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