normalfreak2

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Always on the side of logic and reason.

normalfreak2 wrote:
DuckBoy87 How do today's revelations adjust your opinion on this?  They walk in, ask the manager to use the bathroom. 2 minutes later the Police are called and 5 minutes after that the police arrive.  This all took place in under 15 minutes.  Considering we now know there were multiple people there that were loitering and were there much longer than these two gentlemen.  Does that change your opinion on this?  It does for me.  
normalfreak2 wrote:
Is that Jabba's cousin?
normalfreak2 wrote:
WTF caused this?  Gas leak?
normalfreak2 wrote:
trimble The Rules are applied evenly to the community, no one is exempted.  
normalfreak2 wrote:
datastrom Let's break this down further.  

At a glance, what happened at that Philadelphia coffee shop last Thursday looks like racism. But there’s little context. Does the manager also routinely call the police on white people who loiter in the shop? If a white manager called the police on two white guys hanging around a coffee shop, it wouldn’t make the news, much less become a national obsession. Was the manager new on the job and unfamiliar with the generally lax policy at Starbucks when it comes to allowing nonpaying customers to hang out? Did the manager have some reason we don’t know about for disliking the two men?

All we know now is that the two gentleman walked in, one asked to use the bathroom and was denied.  2 minutes later the police were called.  Do you believe 2 minutes is/was the time to consider these two gentlemen as loitering?  Sorry But this looks more like a race issue than anything else seeing as we had 3 other people in that store that were loitering but the cops weren't called on them.
normalfreak2 wrote:
spanz You may want to rethink your position.  Time between their arrival and the cops being called was 2 minutes.  You really think that's a good response from the Store Manager?  That's quite the escalation.
normalfreak2 wrote:
captkangaroo So upon further facts released.  The time between their arrival and the cops being called was 2 minutes.  I have to say, I have a problem with that.  I think I'm siding more on the customer's side now.  
normalfreak2 wrote:
Let's all reveal in the thought of the Conservative Justice Gorsuch if/when he rules in Favor of doing cross state Taxation.  
normalfreak2 wrote:
mischeif954 I'm not absolving anyone here, there were multiple problems here;  Should the Manager had even created the scene in the first place?  Absolutely not.
normalfreak2 wrote:
holygod I am aware, He's purposely pushing buttons to see how far he can push things.  
normalfreak2 wrote:
jaysingrimm 100% agree and it's being dealt with
normalfreak2 wrote:
monkwarrior No you aren't, stop trying to be coy.  Not sure what got into you to but your comment is uncalled for and consider this a Warning.
normalfreak2 wrote:
monkwarrior Okay enough is enough.  Your comments aren't helpful in fact they were completely uncalled for.  HolyGod don't sink to his level.  
normalfreak2 wrote:
lockner01 No need to link us directly to this, we already saw it and we are on it.
normalfreak2 wrote:
daegog Gotta disagree with you here, I do see a problem with the cops being called. All of this could have been avoided had the manager asked or investigated they were waiting for a friend.  REsolved this without calling the cops, and likewise the men could have purchased ANYTHING just to get her off their backs.  Regardless the police shouldn't have been called.  The cops didn't exercise street smarts and arresting these two is even more fuel on the fire.  This whole thing has multiple fault vectors.
normalfreak2 wrote:
DuckBoy87  I thought I had read that Starbucks had also refused to let a cop use the restroom without a purchase as well, so it's at least consistent with that. 

Different Starbucks, same city but it's 5 blocks away.
normalfreak2 wrote:
DuckBoy87 The only argument I have is I've never been kicked out of any place for just standing around.  Much less a Starbucks.  You know how many interviews I've conducted at a Starbucks or coffee shop without interruption and buying anything?  Never.  Then again could be a coincidence could be any number of things,  I just hope this action is consistent with previous actions taken, if it is then I don't have a problem.  The cops shouldn't have been called, these two gentlemen should have been more mature and left when asked to leave or buy something.  
normalfreak2 wrote:
melcervini If Russia says they facilitated the removal, and by all accounts that's all we know at the time why not brag about it?

normalfreak2 wrote:
DuckBoy87 I like your idea but I'm guessing it would require building some sort of software infrastructure that isn't currently there.  I'm not sure how we would achieve what you are asking.  I like the idea though.
normalfreak2 wrote:
If it doesn't hurt anyone else who cares?  None of our business.
normalfreak2 wrote:
After reading all the facts of the story, they were loitering.  There's rules against it, if this rule isn't enforced all the time then we have an issue but from what I've seen thusfar this is standard procedure.  I have no problem with it.  Their business their rules.
normalfreak2 wrote:
dm2754 I forgot the time President Obama directly caused chaos in a private sector field that required a tax payer funded bailout to fix.  If I'm mistaken please let me know.
normalfreak2 wrote:
melcervini I think we need to hold Russia's feet to the fire.  The whole thing was based on Russia facilitating the removal of chemical weapons.  It's clear they didn't hold up their end of the bargain.  I'm not sure why you are going to rail Kerry for stating this, if all we hear is Russia is taking care of it and they don't why is this Kerry's fault?  Let's blame the guilty party, Russia and Syria.
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This was more wagging the dog actions.  Seems completely choreographed. No Civilian deaths, no Syrian Military casualties, anything that could have been moved was moved, we bombed empty buildings again.  Russia didn't activate their air defense,we probably warned Russia which warned Syria again.  I'm sick of this wag the dog shit.