MonkWarrior

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monkwarrior wrote:
markust123 You're trying to glamorize it by trying to dismiss the negatives brought up.  And again, i know exactly what i'm talking about, by trying to dismiss my points it's also trying to glamorize something that messes up a lot of people for the worse..
monkwarrior wrote:
markust123 If you think pot is glamorous and wonderful, that's simply your own problem.  The reality is that marijuana messes up a lot of people, and not for the best.

I see what you're doing though.  You're doing the same thing you do in regards to the facts of 9/11.  You don't like the facts, because you have chosen to believe something else based on the popular opinion of your peers. Here you're also trying to glamorize marijuana while trying to brush aside the fact that there are a large portion of people whose lives are getting messed up on it (as you could have seen by sitting in on a marijuana anonymous meeting), and it's being increasingly found in the blood of people involved in vehicle accidents, and being the reason for them.  

I have worked with, and around people who have done marijuana, and have actually sit in on MA meetings to listen to their stories.  So no, i'm not embarrassing myself in the slightest because i know the facts of marijuana and what it does to people, the pros and the cons. My stance continues to be I'm all for 'decriminalize', but legalizing it is just a step too far, this stuff is not good for the majority of the population. 
monkwarrior wrote:
punko all dreaming aside, most scientists agree that the moon would be the most logical step (assuming we can even get there in the first place).
monkwarrior wrote:
dm2754 so?
monkwarrior wrote:
no thanks.
monkwarrior wrote:
markust123 I'm sorry, i know exactly what i'm talking about. Marijuana does cause many behaviors that are not beneficial to its users (or those around or who know the user), especially long term abusers.  A 'hemp fest' is no place to gauge.  Want to get a better gauge?  Go to a marijuana anonymous meeting.  In fact, you can go to one online by clicking right here.  Sit in, listen to the damage it has caused people's lives.  These are real people who have likely have gone to those 'hemp fests' and have over the years realized the damage marijuana has caused in their life, have tried to break free, can't, and are reaching out for help.

Legalizing it will not have any positive effects, except for the young people who don't yet know the damage it can cause, because they'll feel like they have won a victory. or the positive effect (if you can call it that) of increased spending for mental health assistance (more in big pharma's pocket).  In 20-30 years of abuse they'll loo back and realize it was a vain and empty victory.  However the increase of drug use is a clear sign of a sick society.

monkwarrior wrote:
daegog 1) i have, people coming down from smoking a lot can be easily broken with just average stress from a work day, so when extreme stress comes in there are emotional breakdowns. I used to work with a group of 15 people, 7 of whom got stoned on a regular basis.  only 2, possibly 3, of those didn't lose composure.  so 4/7 or 5/7 of people doing it did.

2) Old people who have smoked weed know better.

3) When their drug haze puts other people's lives at risk (and it has, as data is showing from police reports and accidents), it's really on society to police things.  Attitudes like that is why there's a big gun problem in a nation right now.

4) i have no comment on that, all i know is that the recreational abuse of marijuana messes up a lot of people.
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monkwarrior wrote:
markust123 Sorry, i have seen marijuana cause these effects "first hand" in people, i've known, worked with, helped to support, or lived with.  Sure people may be stupid to engage in risky and careless behaviour, but it was the effects of marijuana that magnified this.  Some people i know stopped, and then even looked back and said "that stuff really messed me up".  

The bottom line is that by legalizing it, it's going to cause a lot more problems.  People who never tried it may try it and not realize that they are one of the people whose mental issues will explode, or do it for so long they won't recognize the problem creeping up on them.
monkwarrior wrote:
punko a moon base would help speed things up in that respect (assuming we can get there at all)
monkwarrior wrote:
markust123 i know exactly what i'm talking about.  I've seen first hand how messed up it can make people, the people you're talking about are likely in the small percentage of those who are the exception to the rule. 

"refer madness"? 
Ive seen this 'refer madness' in a number of people who i've interacted with.  I remember having one manager who made no secret they smoked it, flipping out and almost crying like a a baby over a small things. I've seen workers who smoked it mentally fatigued from it on a Monday morning, doing risky and careless behavior at the workplace, reporting defensively (as if they're in the right) 'i don't care i just want to go home and smoke'.  These are not isolated incidents either, as I've seen it in people on the street, and have lived in buildings housing a number of people who are suffering the lack of control from their addiction, all who are easily triggered (i would witness them flipping out in the halls or on the street).  I remember one person in one place i lived going down the hall in a rage to pick up a fire extinguisher to come back and attack me with, all because i suggested he take control of his barking dog which was annoying all the tenants (he didn't succeed, another non-smoking tenant subdued him), i still shake my head at the stupidity it drove him to.  I've even heard some people reveal their desire for it to be legalized, so they can go on some type of 'disability' and get their drug paid for then 'smoke weed all day', when they're perfectly able to work and they really just want to be lazy and have someone else pay for them to live and smoke it.. there are disabled people who don't smoke it who are more productive. I've also seen it with a with cashiers bright and early (8-9AM) too, their eyes clearly tell you they smoked quite a bit the night before, and they're not even receptive to you, it's a shame.  In every one of these cases it's clear they are showing the symptoms of marijuana abuse, a risk to themselves and others because of it.  Suggestions to improve themselves by leaving it are often met with wrath and rage.  But that's the dangerous nature of the addiction of marijuana, it creeps up so slowly people don't notice, or they become too selfish to see the damage it's doing to them, or ashamed to admit the truth of what you mentioned to them.

God did make it, but recreational abuse of it is not good.  So like i said I'm all for 'decriminalize' , but legalizing it is just a step too far, this stuff is not good for the majority of the population.   The cases you're talking about are more likely the rare exception to the rule (are you a pot smoker? because that type of argument is what i would expect from them).  The cases i'm talking about are the majority of what you're going to hear of in marijuana users, because it's not good for the majority of the population, and there are a lot of addiction centers that deal with helping people off this so called 'harmless' drug.
monkwarrior wrote:
punko this is pointless, we probably can't even get past LEO, assuming we can even do that.  If the line of thinking is "well it's been 50 years since we went to the moon, and now we lost all the technology, lets just go to mars because it's not as much as a risk as going to the moon" that's complete baloney. Any way you cut it, the moon is less riskier (assuming we can even get there  at all).
monkwarrior wrote:
I don't get what the rush is to legalize this stuff.  It has seriously messed and does mess people up.  Not only that but the advocates  for it can't seem to listen to the harms it does to people, it's actually addictive, and is playing a growing role in accidents leading to deaths.  There's a reason why you don't see a lot of older folks doing it, because they know better.  If you're abusing it you're probably not going to get far at your job or in school, compared to others who aren't on it.  At the very least you're not going to be as sound of mind.  I saw this in school and many work places, and have seen a few emotional flip-outs over things that normally wouldn't trigger anyone.  I'm all for 'decriminalize' , but legalizing it is just a step too far, this stuff is not good for the majority of the population.  
monkwarrior wrote:
kalron i used to play that game years ago, sega virtua fighter
monkwarrior wrote:
punko But it's substantially increased by going to mars first.
monkwarrior wrote:
squrlz4ever Technically you can use google to find it with a search string like The Day The Earth Stood Still 1951 site:bmovies.to
monkwarrior wrote:
squrlz4ever no worries/rush, thanks
monkwarrior wrote:
im not a big fan of hockey so i can't say.  Never been a big fan of contact sports.. too barbaric if you ask me.  I like that Canadian game, baseball, though.
monkwarrior wrote:
I'd love to have the ability to explore a black hole, especially its core, but this video is kind of out there if you ask me.
monkwarrior wrote:
That was interesting and short.
monkwarrior wrote:
squrlz4ever no it's not really like that, but the theme is pretty close.  
monkwarrior wrote:
Gerry1of1 yeah the 1950's movie is one of my favorite movies of all time.
monkwarrior wrote:
I have like the first 5 assassins creed games but have yet to play them.  same with the first 2-3 uncharted games - haven't played them either.  I also have the first 2-3 god of wars and haven't played them either. I collected them thinking i would play them on a rainy day but i am always too busy.
monkwarrior wrote:
Gerry1of1 The license plate shows it's an European country though..
monkwarrior wrote:
I would have liked to see how it was inside when it rained