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Obama Fiddles While The World Burns [Pic+]

Hits: 2354 | Rating: (1.8) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: 5Cats
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MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4746 Posts
Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:17:58 PM
HolyGod-The worst natural disaster and response in American history.

Worst natural disaster? Debatable, but right up there.
Worst Response? Yes, but not by the feds. The feds are NEVER the first responders.

The worst preperation and response, in order of responsibility, go as follows:
The individuals, who were too dumb to leave an area that is BELOW sea level when there's a very good chance of the sea coming in.
The City, "Chocolate City" Nagin failed to follow his very own Emergency Response & Preparedness plan, waited until too late to order an evacuation, and let city resources flood rather than utilize them to evacuate people in need.
The State, where the governor waited too late to declare an emergency, without which the feds can do nothing.

I've lived through Camille, Frederick, Ivan and Katrina (plus many minor). The Feds NEVER show up for at least 4 days.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26236 Posts
Monday, June 16, 2014 11:50:01 PM
The Right ruins the economy,

Which grows BETTER under Bush I than Clinton, and under Bush II than Obama...

...ruins any attempt to rectify it.

You have a SINGLE example of that?

Funny how the House and Senate being Republican or Democrat have MORE to do with the economy than the PotUS...
Almost like the Founding Fathers intended it that way!!

piratefish
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 668 Posts
Monday, June 16, 2014 7:10:29 PM
@BuckeyeJoe:

You realize you just admitted that your original points were inaccurate by agreeing with me on point #1 and point #2?

Also, please show me where Obama had a goddamn thing to do with Dodd-Frank? I'll be waiting.

Also, you may want to talk to some executives, business owners, CPAs, etc. about whose policies are better for the economy. Most of us will tell you that Obama's certainly aren't helping; in fact, he's making things much, much worse. So as we continue to slide into higher unemployment and inflation, you can thank the idiots who are currently in power.

And for the record, I am NOT a conservative, nor am I a liberal. Go use your labels elsewhere.

BuckeyeJoe
Male, 40-49, Europe
 39 Posts
Monday, June 16, 2014 2:50:05 PM
@Piratefish

LOL, I didn't "conveniently" leave out anything, read the previous messages. And in response to your lessons:

1) Thank you Captain Obvious, that was the point...

2) I don't think you understand what is being said. In any event, you are dead wrong on the first point, and correct (again, thank you Captain) on the second.

And it is the Right that continues to flail uselessly at the Left's inability to clean up their damage, which is absurd, as almost every attempt to do so has been summarily opposed.

Let me sum it up for you: The Right ruins the economy, and ruins any attempt to rectify it. Then you know what they do? They blame Liberals for failing.

Sorry fish, it ain't cute any more, it's sad, and you are part of the problem. Thank god your way of life is phasing out, along with the rest of the conservative movement. It will soon be history.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26236 Posts
Sunday, June 15, 2014 7:23:43 PM
Thx @piratefish!

It's AMAZING that as the Liberals flail desperately, the only thing they can put their finger on (without getting burned!) is "Obama Killed Osama"
That's it!
Even "Bush Did It" no longer applies, after all Obama has copied his policies so often, it's unfair to even call them "Bush's" anymore.

Not ONE thing worthwhile has this SCFOAMF done in 5+ years. Except fundraise.

Just how long can the MSM continue to cover for him? Why are they even trying to anymore?

It's a mystery.
Just like people who continue to support Obama. WTH? You think he's suddenly going to KEEP his 2008 campaign promises? NOW? LMFAO!

piratefish
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 668 Posts
Sunday, June 15, 2014 2:57:59 PM
@BuckeyeJoe:

That's pretty cute.

Lesson #1) A 1.7% increase of a larger number is much better than a 1.6% increase of a smaller number.

Lesson #2) While you sing the praises of the Dodd-Frank act, there are two things you should know: first, Obama didn't have a f*cking thing to do with the Dodd-Frank Act, and second, he did have something to do with repealing the part that prevented derivatives trading by banks.

Talk about high school book reports.

And I noticed you conveniently left out the fact that unemployment continues to soar during the past 5 years, as well as the fact that the income gap is still growing exponentially. You also forgot to mention the unmitigated disaster that is the PPACA, along with the numerous scandals and fiascoes of the Obama administration that Barrack always seems to be the last to know about.

Bottom line: Obama and his policies suck.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26236 Posts
Sunday, June 15, 2014 1:36:38 PM
@BuckEyeJoe: Not ONE thing in your 3 posts addresses the topic! Tax cuts? I thought Bush was BAD for his tax cuts? Which Obama re-signed, btw.
Can't even get your "good vs evil" straight?

What does "rate of GDP growth" have to do with the DEFICIT? Not one little thing!

Welcome to IAB anyhow

BuckeyeJoe
Male, 40-49, Europe
 39 Posts
Sunday, June 15, 2014 9:15:27 AM
@5Cats: here are a few more:

Since 2008, the American economy has grown at the inflation-adjusted rate of 1.6% per year. From the beginning of 2001 until the close of 2008 economic growth averaged 1.7% per year.

So does Bush win? (Put down your beer, 5Cats, and read on…)

Bush came into office in the midst (as it turns out, at the peak) of one of the great historic booms in modern American economic history. From 1982 to 2000, the American economy expanded at a 3.7% rate (Thanks, Clinton!!!). The base (denominator) was notably high. Hence, when saying that the Bush record of economic growth of 1.7% was greater than Obama’s current 1.6%, we should also account for the fact that the predicate of the comparison is highly differential. Bush started from a high base and came in low. Obama started from a low base and came in worse.

The rate matters.

BuckeyeJoe
Male, 40-49, Europe
 39 Posts
Sunday, June 15, 2014 9:14:26 AM
@5Cats: here are some things to get you started:

Bush created the two unsuccessful wars. Obama found Osama bin Laden, and ended both. Bush did not regulate banks' use of derivatives, thus creating the 2008 financial crisis. Obama pushed through the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform Act, which does regulate banks (which also regulates credit, debit and prepaid cards and ended payday loans with the Consumer Financial Protection Agency).
Obama cut taxes by $654 billion in 2011 and 2012 (H.R. 4853, Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010). In other words, with this bill President Obama cut taxes by more, in raw dollar amounts, in just half of his term than Bush did over his full first term.

BuckeyeJoe
Male, 40-49, Europe
 39 Posts
Sunday, June 15, 2014 8:22:43 AM
@5Cats

Lesson #2: You should probably go sit down and think things through a bit more. Your analysis is pretty good for a high school book report, but not much else.

Maybe less beer, more thinkie?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26236 Posts
Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:16:25 PM
Bush added about 5 trillion in 8 years, which includes the Democrats adding to the Bailout Bill.
Obama has added about 7 trillion so far, and there's lots more spending left to account for!

Bush: Signed a proper Budget Bill every year, as required by the US Constitution.
Obama: Signed ONE Budget in 2009. NONE since then.

Yes, Bush spent a LOT of money! Far too much in fact.
But Obama's promise of not raising the deficit went out the window the minute the election polls closed. He's spent more than any PotUS ever, by any measure, inflation adjusted or not.

"Rate of Change" my arse!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26236 Posts
Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:09:26 PM
@BuckEyeJoe:
Lesson #1: What I spend on beer each month:
January: 250
Feb: 275
Mar: 350
April: 1,300
May: 1,100
June: 1,000

See? The RATE OF CHANGE DROPS from April to June! I'm SAVING money and spending LESS each month!
Meanwhile, I was INCREASING spending in the first 3 months, the RoC was INCREASING! Ooo! That's bad, right?
That's exactly what Bush V Obama looks like, FYI.
Source: Debt To The Penny
"Rate of Change" = meaningless. Obama is on course to increase the DEBT more than ALL Presidents before him.

@normalfreak2: Are you suggesting Saddam NEVER violated cease-fire while Clinton was in office? What about ALL those bomb strikes Clinton ordered? Hummm?
Pull your head out of the MSM's arse for a moment and think.

normalfreak2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1955 Posts
Saturday, June 14, 2014 6:46:05 PM
Where does 5Cats get his history, is that a video game? What the hell are you talking about?

BuckeyeJoe
Male, 40-49, Europe
 39 Posts
Saturday, June 14, 2014 6:00:23 PM
@5Cats

Give a link for your figures...'cause you're still just making poo up. Rate of change is exactly what matters, how can you not know this? Seriously, you must work very hard to keep reality away! You must be exhausted!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26236 Posts
Saturday, June 14, 2014 5:22:20 PM
Cake.

It was one battle in the War On Terror: Bush played it brilliantly!

And by "Bush" I mean the US Army under his command. It's right out of Sun Tsu: Meet the enemy on ground of YOUR OWN CHOOSING: Iraq!

Obama has frittered it all away with his spineless "foreign policy" of shaking hands with America's enemies and insulting America's friends and allies. It's a FACT! Period!

Told you it was a long answer. I'll check back to see what you think of it

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26236 Posts
Saturday, June 14, 2014 5:19:12 PM
@BuckEyeJoe: So 1.2 Trillion (under Obama) is LESS than 450 Billion (Under Bush) ? Rate of change means NOTHING AT ALL. ffs...

@WhoDat: It's a "long answer:
Saddam was violating the Ceasefire ALL the time under Clinton. It was obvious that he wasn't going to go away due to "sanctions", ever.
So the USA thought up ways to get him out. Ever heard of Plan Crimson? it's the ARMY'S JOB to think of ways to invade or defend!

So what? If the US Gov't DIDN'T plan these things, they wouldn't be doing their jobs!!

And don't confuse propaganda (WMDs) with real reasons (cease-fire violations). The USA and EVERY nation involved in Gulf-I had EVERY RIGHT to remove Saddam for his violations. The UN said so!

So WHAT if the WMDs weren't 100% "accurate" after all: it's just frosting on the CAK

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3732 Posts
Saturday, June 14, 2014 4:42:23 PM
@5Cats - So, I guess you're not going to reply to my comment and links proving that your boy Dubya is to blame for the clusterf*ck in Iraq, eh? You specifically asked why I'm not personally blaming Obama and I was kind enough to answer and supply links but you're ignoring it now, eh? I'm not surprised, I've noticed you always ignore people that prove you wrong.

Keep up the good work. You're the poster boy partisan hack for conservatives.

BuckeyeJoe
Male, 40-49, Europe
 39 Posts
Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:22:58 PM
@5Cats: Bush re-signed WAY more of Clinton's policies than Obama resigned from Bush (see, I can make up poo too). And psst, you want to look at the rate of change with respect to the deficit and debt...any economics student will tell you that.

One of the greatest tricks that conservatives have ever done is convincing poor fools that they are supporting their interests (and let the banjos duel away -- most are easy to fool). What? Did you learn politics from your cats? A little tip: cats are super cool, but are terrrrrible at this stuff! Choose a different source, cause cat-onomics....embarrassing to read, man!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26236 Posts
Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:08:55 PM
@SmagBoy1: Hey, how's that DEBT going? That deficit under control yet? No?
How's that USA credit rating these days?
How's the % of adults employed? Lowest in 30 years you say? Gee, that's bad!

And 100 other things. Obama has ONE thing he claims as his own: killing OBL. Everything else he's touched has turned to poo.

If Bush was so bad, WHY did Obama re-sign so many laws and expand so many of his policies? All Obama needed to do was NOT sign and say "no more" and presto! But he did not.

Yet you (IAB Liberals I mean, not @SB specifically) defend him. And castigate Bush. They're doing the exact same things, but you have TWO rules for them to be judged by.
Not nice!

Bush wasn't "good" but he was better than Gore and Kerry! That's 100% sure!
And Obama is worse than Bush by ANY measure.
Period!
That's in spite of being given a "free ride" by the MSM BTW...

BuckeyeJoe
Male, 40-49, Europe
 39 Posts
Saturday, June 14, 2014 6:33:20 AM
LOL @5Cats, anyone who writes Bush>Obama is just a troll. No rational person defends Bush anymore, the whole world agrees he was a giant idiot -- move on! The only folks still waving his banner are probably the same ones who cannot identify the US on a world map, or spell "disaster."

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4243 Posts
Saturday, June 14, 2014 5:37:24 AM
The economy now versus when he took office. The real estate market now. The stock market now. The manufacturing index. Unemployment The wars. OBL. Equal rights for *all* citizens. Yeah, he's doing a terrible job.

I know, I now, conservatives, those numbers shouldn't be figured like they used to be and are all skewed now that Obama is in office. Whatever.

jamie76
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2350 Posts
Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:38:59 AM
1.8 rating

OP I think it is safe to say most of us here think this is a completely stupid and BS post...we think other things too but I'll be polite and not mention it has to do with you.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17298 Posts
Friday, June 13, 2014 10:24:39 PM
Turd: "The fact that you think Bush was a good president says it all."

The fact that you're defending Obama says volumes too.

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3775 Posts
Friday, June 13, 2014 8:30:16 PM

The fact that you think Bush was a good president says it all.

Even the other 3 nutty extreme conservative IAB nuts don't have your back on this one.
Many of us hate Obama, but this is one stupid fight to pick.
You and your article are calling for Obama to invade half the eastern hemisphere!


OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14782 Posts
Friday, June 13, 2014 8:27:19 PM
@MalcomR Racist bastards, period.

How deluded and racist can this 5cats doofus be?


Ah, the race card -- the last card played from a losing hand (which, often as not, is also the first card played).

Yet another liberal declares intellectual bankruptcy.

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