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Who Closed Yellowstone & Iwo Jima Memorial? [P

Hits: 5503 | Rating: (1.7) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: 5Cats
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pazerlenis
Male, 40-49, Western US
 1035 Posts
Saturday, October 12, 2013 10:56:35 PM
@5cats, "No, not even close. Unless I was SPECIFICALLY criticizing Obama's opinions on Hitler? You 'logic fail' = epic!"

That would be a great point if I had been directly criticizing your opinions on Obama, but I wasn't. That's just you trying to project your fight with liberals onto me. I have no interest in your fight, just with HOW you choose to fight it.

Personally, I find all the posturing and fear-mongering to be rather played out, and I think the American public as a whole is getting sick of it too. The polls seem to be supporting that hypothesis, but I'm sure you'll just disregard them as biased by the liberal media.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 9:48:33 AM
PS: And sometimes, you'll find the person you're debating can be reasonable too.

For example, I've bowed out of this conversation, because I realised that the American method of funding its laws and deciding its budget was so wholly alien to me in ways that I didn't anticipate that I wasn't equipped to properly make a personal judgement on the situation or who was right or wrong (beyond a general air of "Jeeeeez, that's messed up", which doesn't help anyone).

Others are no doubt the same. Can you try to go into debates without assuming the other side will be shouty and emotional and irrational, and try not to be the same yourself?

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 9:45:37 AM
(cont)



I'm not going to claim that the "other side" are innocent of this. They're not. Hell, I'll freely admit that I do it too. So please don't think I'm solely accusing you two.

Neither of you hold particularly extreme opinions. But you *do* often deliver those opinions with the same rhetoric and tone as the extremists. At least, that's how it often appears.

It's up to you how you deal with that. You're free to continue as you are. But, personally, I think you'd get a lot further in getting people to understand your views if you used the more civil methods.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 9:45:25 AM
@5Cats

I'd watch that.

And no, it's not about the beliefs. At least, not from my perspective. Sometimes, I manage to catch you or CrakrJak on a good day and you are both pleasantly agreeable to debate with, and though I often (but not always) agree with your perspective, I do get to understand it better.

And on other days, you fire up your emotions and engage in unhelpful tactics, both for the rest of us (we get annoyed) and for yourselves (you damage any chance of convincing us to your way of thinking).

(cont)

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26325 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 9:29:15 AM
@Musuko42: Isn't "Extreme Knitting" an HGTV Show?

But it IS ALL ABOUT beliefs! @CrakrJak is correct.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 3:58:33 AM
@CrakrJak

Extremism isn't about the belief, it's about how far that belief is taken, and how it is communicated/acted upon.

You could have an extremist knitter.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17301 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 5:00:12 PM
pazerlenis: "I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH YOUR BELIEFS"

Yes, yes you do. Otherwise you wouldn't be calling us "Extremists", singleminded, biased, unethical, non-objective, egotists, etc...

Perhaps if you excoriated the liberals here as strongly as you do us, you might have some non-partisan credibility. Until then, you can't claim it with any honesty.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17301 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:53:26 PM
pazerlenis: "Is it so uncomfortable for you to have a discussion with someone and actually listen to what they are saying and examine it objectively?"

Not when what's being typed is pure bullsh|t.

"You pick and choose your arguments to stroke your Ego and have no qualms using biased info in your argument."

Again, I have no ego to stroke. That's YOUR assumption of all conservatives and YOUR excuse to "disregard everything" we have to say by declaring us "extremist".

"how will the lesser people..."

Whoa, now you're putting words in my mouth? I don't condescend to anyone or belittle them.

"I consider my beliefs and opinions to be one of many worldviews that could be right."

Your comments here on IAB belie that statement. In fact you call yourself a non-partisan and believe others are "extremist" simply based on your assumptions.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26325 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:20:20 PM
@panzerlenis: No, not even close. Unless I was SPECIFICALLY criticizing Obama's opinions on Hitler? You 'logic fail' = epic!

Obama loves puppies and kittens! ANYONE who criticizes him must HATE PUPPIES AND KITTENS!!!

Nope, not logical at all. Trolling? Yeah, it's that.

pazerlenis
Male, 40-49, Western US
 1035 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:40:07 AM
@5cats, "It's not an assumption! It's logic!"

Awesome, I can use your kind of logic too!

@5Cats - criticizes Obama
Obama hates Hitler
Therefor: @5cats is DEFENDING Hitler. Simple.

I can jump to conclusions too! See?

This is a perfect example of HOW facts can be manipulated into a lie. You do this all the time and THAT is what I'm complaining about, not your actual views on Obama.

pazerlenis
Male, 40-49, Western US
 1035 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:26:13 AM
One more thing CrakrJak...

I have said this many times and you just don't seem capable of hearing it. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH YOUR BELIEFS, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH HOW YOU EXPRESS THOSE BELIEFS HERE. I ALSO HAVE THIS EXACT SAME ISSUE WITH EVERY LIBERAL ON THIS SITE WHO IS MORE INTERESTED IN PICKING A FIGHT THAN LEARNING SOMETHING. MY ISSUE IS WITH POLITICAL EXTREMISTS, NOT CONSERVATIVES.

Does the all caps help it sink in any better?

pazerlenis
Male, 40-49, Western US
 1035 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:22:48 AM
@CrakrJak
Again you are trying to fit me nicely into your liberal bucket so you can disregard everything I have said. Is it so uncomfortable for you to have a discussion with someone and actually listen to what they are saying and examine it objectively? I understand not listening to the obviously biased info that gets posted sometimes, but you do that yourself all the time. You pick and choose your arguments to stroke your Ego and have no qualms using biased info in your argument. But then, if you don't, how will the lesser people ever have your, "wisdom sink through the thick skulls and into the mushy gray matter inside"?

I suppose the biggest difference between us is I consider my beliefs and opinions to be one of many worldviews that could be right. You consider your worldview to be the ONLY one that is right and you will do anything you can (ethical or not) to "prove" your point.


Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:14:47 AM
@HolyGod

"Perhaps he means the egotism that an uneducated, unemployed, unsuccessful person thinks they could depart their "wisdom" on all us "thick skulls"?"

Pretty much. Messiah complex.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26325 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:09:12 AM
In this case? This posting?

I thought it was VERY interesting that actual veterans of the Iwo Jima invasion had to RE-INVADE to liberate their own National Monument!

And there is going to be a big rally at the WW2 Monument this coming Sunday (iirc). What will Obama do? THAT is an interesting question, yes?

I'm glad these were put together, rather than having 3 separate posts...

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26325 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:58:14 AM
not a single shred of usefull information that, wether or not i am against, will make me stop and think.

@Mr.Orange: So the fact that the White House Itself ordered public parks closed doesn't "tweak your curiosity" just a little? Too bad for you.

Not three or four or more as seems to be happening now.


@Musuko42: There are indeed 5 "political posts" on the front page. ONE (1) of them is mine.
Page 2 has: 5 political posts, TWO (2) are mine...

So 3 out of 10 = 5CATS IS DOING IT!!!?!

Ummm? Nope.

(don't) just assume that I love Obama because I have been criticizing 5cats...


@panzerlenis: It's not an assumption! It's logic!
5Cats - criticizes Obama
@pl - criticizes 5Cats for doing so
Therefor: @pl is DEFENDING Obama. Simple.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5097 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:46:13 AM
Crakr

"Musuko: Not egotism, How is hopefulness egotism? Are you that thick to not know the difference? I guess so."

Perhaps he means the egotism that an uneducated, unemployed, unsuccessful person thinks they could depart their "wisdom" on all us "thick skulls"?

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5097 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:43:43 AM
Crakr

"Don't you have better things to do than troll me? Take your atheist bullcrap and bother someone else with it."

I'm not trolling you. I'm asking you a serious question. You self admittedly have a miserable life and you seem perfectly OK with it. Do you think that would be the case if you weren't convinced that in a little while you will die, this "test" will be over, and you'll get to live in eternal bliss in heaven?

"liberals are revoking our God given rights one-by-one"

Please list 5 "God given rights" you had 10 years ago but don't now because of liberals.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17301 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:37:20 AM
Musuko: Not egotism, How is hopefulness egotism? Are you that thick to not know the difference? I guess so.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17301 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:35:15 AM
HG: Don't you have better things to do than troll me? Take your atheist bullcrap and bother someone else with it.

"We live in a country where any individual can do anything they want."

Not true at all, in fact liberals are revoking our God given rights one-by-one, chipping away at them from every angle. Using tragedies and crises to justify invoking new restrictions.

I know this, my station in life isn't being improved by your atheist trolling and misjudgement.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:21:02 AM
@CrakrJak

"I'm here to tell the truth, as I see it, not for my satisfaction, but for others. Perhaps with the hope that one day this wisdom will sink through the thick skulls and into the mushy gray matter inside."

Egotism then.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17301 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:20:42 AM
pazerlenis: You've stated your liberal viewpoint on gun control more than once. Parroted liberal talking points about conservatives being "extremists". Bemoan "partisan" politics then demonstrated your own partisanship in criticisms. You don't believe "liberal bias in the media" exists. You believe in AGW. And complain about the "pettiness" of conservatives on IAB, then make petty complaints about their posts.

You may claim you're non-partisan, but it's obvious what side you're rooting for.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5097 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:14:30 AM
Crakr

"I'm quite well aware of my station in life, even as poor as it is"

Do you think that if it weren't for your belief in an afterlife you may be less willing to accept your "poor station in life" and more motivated to try to fix it?

We live in a country where any individual can do anything they want. Don't you think that your station and life could be greatly improved if you spent your time learning or developing something instead of making thousands and thousands of comments on this site?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17301 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:03:42 AM
Musuko: "You can win things that aren't money. Ego boosts, for example. Emotional satisfaction. An illusion of meaning in your dark and dreary life."

Would an egotist admit they are poor? No. Do I get "Emotional satisfaction"? No. At the end of the day we are all living under this president's tyranny, no satisfaction to be had there.

"An illusion of meaning.." No, no illusions. I'm quite well aware of my station in life, even as poor as it is, and don't bother with them.

If anything, I get some camaraderie with other conservative here on IAB. But that's about it.

I'm here to tell the truth, as I see it, not for my satisfaction, but for others. Perhaps with the hope that one day this wisdom will sink through the thick skulls and into the mushy gray matter inside.

pazerlenis
Male, 40-49, Western US
 1035 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 7:27:51 AM
Oh, and CrakrJak. I really liked your line, "You assume to know me so well, but it's the words that you typed, have more insight about yourself."

You are 100% correct. We often reveal more about ourselves in these types of discussions than we reveal about others. This is a very insightful observation.

pazerlenis
Male, 40-49, Western US
 1035 Posts
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 7:23:19 AM
@CrakrJak, "It's obvious your a fan of his or you wouldn't be attacking every conservative on IAB."

If you don't actually read any of my comments and just assume that I love Obama because I have been criticizing 5cats, sure. I can see where you might jump to that conclusion.

But you are the one who claims to posts links to your claims. Well you just claimed I love Obama so where is your link proving it? Where do I defend him or even say anything positive about him at all? Nothing? Yeah, that just proves how much you lie. You have no interest in the truth. You want to push forward your extremist agenda.

I don't fit in your Liberal box. My beef with you (and every other Liberal & Conservative nutter on this site) is your extremist views. Your unwillingness to look at the other point of view and find the truth. If you think Liberals are all evil and conservatives are all good, you are delusional. Liberals who do the same are just as guilty.

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