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This Is Why You Should Stop Tipping at Restaurants

Hits: 7899 | Rating: (2.1) | Category: Community & Lifestyle | Added by: fancylad
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sosueme1966
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 428 Posts
Friday, September 20, 2013 1:29:22 PM
I love tipping. It makes me happy to reward people who've served me. I don't care if it's their job, I don't care if people in other countries don't do it. It's good karma. If you're that obsessed with hanging on to your money, eat at home.

If servers were paid minimum wage without tips, no one worth a damn would do it for a living. Tipping allows skilled professional servers to earn a living the restaurant owner could NEVER afford to pay them. It's not rocket science.

Wendypants
Female, 30-39, Canada
 2098 Posts
Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:58:50 AM
Uhh, it's because MrOrange, that most bosses don't follow around all of their employees all the time every day and so a lot of their mistakes can be missed.... if the customer doesn't pass on their problems/experiences the boss is not going to know, not going to know to deal with that employee.
Don't you ever wonder why there are those suggestion/comment boxes in businesses? This is what they're for :)

lemaxwell
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 39 Posts
Sunday, September 15, 2013 9:52:29 AM
tipping isn't mandatory, first of all. secondly, the reason servers get paid $2.13 an hour, and thus rely on tips, is so cheap idiots like yall can enjoy a $10 dollar steak that would cost three times as much in europe. quit ya bitchin and get over it. just leave a tip.

Neoptolemos
Male, 30-39, Europe
 566 Posts
Saturday, September 14, 2013 6:44:05 AM
Europe DOES tip, your argument is invalid

spanerbulb
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1247 Posts
Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:38:06 AM
Employers should pay a decent wage, people shouldn't have to rely on tips.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 7:46:48 AM
@MrOrange

"NOPE. i'm suposed to enjoy my evening out. your fuc.k.i.ng BOSS needs to tell you when you do a bad job, why the F is that my responsibility all of a sudden?"

Exactly!

And I couldn't agree more about taking away the beauty of the tip.

MrOrange
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2337 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 6:27:09 AM
" THAT'S when you're SUPPOSES to not tip, to show the waiter/waitress that they've fu*ked up."

NOPE. i'm suposed to enjoy my evening out. your fuc.k.i.ng BOSS needs to tell you when you do a bad job, why the F is that my responsibility all of a sudden?

MrOrange
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2337 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 6:22:52 AM
"People act like tipping is extra money that wouldn't be spent if the servers got paid more. That is some terribly flawed logic."

The flaw in your logic is this: The money spent is the same since tipping is "mandatory" anyway.

it also takes away the beauty of a real tip, the one where you say: sir or mam, the way you served us today made such a contribution to my evening out, that i'd like you to have this as a token of my apreciation. instead off: right hang on, your boss is a cheapskate so i have to pay 10 or is it 15% of your wages just becuase you work here.

Wendypants
Female, 30-39, Canada
 2098 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 5:49:57 AM
@sleepyhallow, EXACTLY RIGHT! :)

Wendypants
Female, 30-39, Canada
 2098 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 5:47:03 AM
@Kegomatix, I wouldn't call you an ass*hole: you were given pooty service... THAT'S when you're SUPPOSES to not tip, to show the waiter/waitress that they've fu*ked up.

Wendypants
Female, 30-39, Canada
 2098 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 5:41:50 AM
@tegdp, I'm curious: have you ever worked a service position where you had to take order and then deliver food to customers? (In North America, I mean.) Oh, your profile says you're from Europe.
If you haven't I dare you to try it over here and live without any tips. See what it feels like. The ONLY reason to not tip a waiter/waitress in N.A. is terrible/non-existent service.

Kegomatix
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1316 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 5:35:34 AM
@bendybored

Sorry, I don't feel bad for you. If you hate it that much then get a better job. I make roughly 60k a year but worked my ass off to get here.

trippyhippy9
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 562 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 4:49:21 AM
Do people not understand that when the wages of half your staff goes up, your menu prices go up too?

People act like tipping is extra money that wouldn't be spent if the servers got paid more.

That is some terribly flawed logic.

zeplin4u
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 72 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 4:12:01 AM
Do a good job, get a good tip, do a great job, get a great tip, do a crappy job, get no tip, an explanation why and a suggestion of a different line of work.

Modwain
Male, 30-39, Europe
 303 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 3:44:18 AM
in europe we do tip, but not mandatory, for us a tip is recognition and apreciation of great service.

The idea of a tip being part of someone's salary is no more then a cheap way of the employers to drop wages. to dumb for words that a whole society goes along with it.

and yes, i used to work behind the bar and yes i liked getting tips but yes, we had a few times a year where we would donate all the tips given to a charity, because it didnt matter.

Oh, and tips were split amongste everyone working, so not just the person getting the tip, be it barman or waiter. an equal split would go to the peeps working in the kitchen too and to those that did the cleaning in the mornings.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 3:29:54 AM
@stk5m

"If you don't tip at my bar, I will call you out. The regulars will take care of the rest."

And then your customer will get a nice juicy compensation payout after putting you and your regulars through the legal wringer for threatening (and possibly delivering) assault.

Where's your bar? I can handle a few bruises for the $$$$$$$$$. ;)

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 3:18:33 AM
@Gerry1of1

"We tip for better service."

And here, we expect good service as a given, and ask to see a manager to complain if we don't get it, and don't eat there again if we're not satisfied with their response.

You know...like how you do it with EVERY SINGLE OTHER SERVICE PROVIDED TO YOU BY ANY OTHER BUSINESS.

MrOrange
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2337 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 2:42:20 AM
@stk5m,

Be thankfull i don't visit your bar, i would call you out. my friends would take care of the bar...

Why don't you start paying your staff decent wages, so they don't depend on hand outs from the costumers you seem to feel free to pressure into doing something they don't want to. or is that lightbulb to hot for ya?


stk5m
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 303 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 2:26:42 AM
If you don't tip at my bar, I will call you out. The regulars will take care of the rest.

bluevayero
Male, 18-29, Europe
 226 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 1:21:13 AM
@Gerry1of1 as a customer i will not pay to get a descent service i should have at the first place. my tip is not meant to buy a service, i pay the bill for that reason, but acts as an reward and aknowledgement for a good service. so i will not tip to make the service better, but only when the service is good.
Also good/bad service may differ from one restaurant/person to the next

bendybored
Male, 18-29, Western US
 17 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 1:08:03 AM
For reference, I work delivery and I make less than 15k total a year in total even with my tips working 30-40 hours a week. Driving my own car, my own mileage, etc. Wish I could rack up the money working a waiter job not having to spend anything on myself during my job hours like I have to doing delivery.

bendybored
Male, 18-29, Western US
 17 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 1:05:07 AM
Tip because 95% of customers are complete douches, and barely deserve to be breathing. 95% of you complain at every chance you get just to demand free food and make these peoples' lives miserable, while you go home and worry about whether you should renovate your kitchen with granite or marble counter tops, as I have heard from some rich non-nice individuals in my job who like to stay literally 45 minutes after closing, when we should be home instead of helping a bunch of spoiled 60 year old men. Also as someone else said, many states that have tipping jobs get way lower minimum wage requirements. They're making less than $3 if no one tips, though I am sure the rich people don't care if they starve them to death, as poor people really don't matter as much as their useless 6 children do.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12320 Posts
Friday, September 13, 2013 12:50:04 AM
Like many non-Americans, I don't get American tipping.

Why would a service business pay minimum wage and then rely on their customers' goodwill (or strong-arming by their staff) to pay a fair wage?

It just leaves a bad taste in the mouth, particularly as some restaurants' staff often expect much more than 10%, sometimes 25% or more.

I can accept that a culture may adopt a strange practice of charging for labour separately to the food and environment, but when the expectations of staff and customers don't meet, it can only be bad for business or labour relations.

It's supposed to be optional, but it really is not. You'd be given a really hard time if you didn't tip and it's inevitable that foreigners (who may not be used to tipping 18% or more) will be surprised by how much money they are expected to pay.

I prefer the Japanese way, where the staff are paid properly and will refuse all change as a matter of principle.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:53:37 PM

Europe is famous for bad service so I suggest you start tipping.....ESPECIALLY in the UK.

Sleepyhallow
Male, 50-59, Western US
 1812 Posts
Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:52:09 PM
I have no problem tipping someone who is *Waiting* on me.

It is the recent prevalence of tip jars sitting on counters that really chaps my behind.

When your job entails standing at a counter and handing me factory assembled processed food product, there is NOTHING tip worthy in that.

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