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Joe Knows It Was All Political

Hits: 4174 | Rating: (1.7) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: drawman61
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Zed68
Male, 40-49, Europe
 896 Posts
Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:22:51 AM
It's still incredibly full of stupid...



5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24937 Posts
Friday, August 09, 2013 10:01:24 AM
@Musuko42: Columbine was 2 shooters As was the "Beltway Sniper(s)" (two guys) and Oklahoma City Bombing...

What's too much?
Never goes to trial. NO evidence heard. ALL evidence sealed. The 3 biggest killings in America since Lincoln and not one iota of actual "evidence" is presented? 3 out of 3 is more than "blind chance" eh?

Fool me once? Shame on me.
Fool me twice? Shame on you!
Fool me 3 times? It's a conspiracy.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2833 Posts
Friday, August 09, 2013 4:59:26 AM
@5Cats

I'm not claiming anything about the shooting. I'm only saying that believing it is out of the ordinary for the evidence to go missing is only possible if you know what the ordinary loss levels are.

"It's just too much!"

Crazed lone gunmen happen all the time. Sandy Hook. Columbine. John Lennon.

Dodgy stuff can and does happen, and who knows, maybe some of the murders of politicans are acts of conspiracy. But until proven, it's not unheard of for them to just be random killings.

It's why so many people cling to conspiracies (and religion): the thought of things just happening for no reason is scary. Far better to believe that someone is in control, even if that someone is malevolent. At least then, there's someone to beg/please/pray to/sacrifice to in an effort to control your world by proxi.

Stage 3 of grief is bargaining. You can bargain with a god, or with conspirators. You can't bargain with random chance.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24937 Posts
Thursday, August 08, 2013 5:42:12 PM
JFK: Lone gunman, case never tried, all evidence sealed.

MLK: Lone gunman, case never tried. Judge refused to allow an "not guilty" plea, all evidence sealed.

RFK: Lone gunman, Critical evidence lost, never went to trial, all evidence sealed.

The famous "Zapruder Film" was sealed, never shown to the public until Jim Garrison forced it out, 6 years later.

Dan Rather was one of a "select group" of reporters allowed to see it. HE SAID that JFK's head moved "forward, to the right"... an obvious lie.

MLK's shooter: went to his grave claiming his innocence.
RFK's shooter: claimed he was brainwashed by the FBI (or CIA, I forget which).

Gerald Ford's "shooter" = crazed lone gun-woman
Reagan's shooter = crazed lone gunman

It's just too much!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24937 Posts
Thursday, August 08, 2013 5:29:28 PM
@Musuko42: I read that the evidence room which "lost" the RFK tiles had not lost ONE SINGLE item in the previous 100 years... that's just iirc of course.
As a RULE? Evidence rooms do NOT casually toss things from the highest profile case they've ever seen.

The ceiling tiles were CRITICAL! If they really had 3 or 4 bullet holes? That absolutely proved a second shooter was inside that crowded room.

>> 7 bullets were accounted for in RFK, 2 other victims and a wall.
>> The gun used held 8. It was an unusual gun: 25 caliber, not common at all.
>> Photographs seem to show up to 4 bullet holes in the ceiling tiles. The shooter was down but kept firing into the air ALL the evidence agrees on this.
>> The security guard standing BEHIND RFK also had the identical gun as the shooter.
-first he denied ever owning such a gun
-then when it was proved he HAD owned one, he claimed it wasn't in that year.
(con't)

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24937 Posts
Thursday, August 08, 2013 5:27:06 PM
-it was proven he owned it at that time. He claimed he NEVER used it for work.
-it was proven he DID use it for work, both before and after the RFK shooting... strong evidence exists he had it on that day too.
-meanwhile, he sold the gun to an unknown buyer.
-since the case was never tried, and ALL the evidence sealed? The questions about the guard were never followed up...

The point?
If 10-11 shots were fired from a revolver holding 8 rounds max? There HAD TO BE 2 shooters. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. Worse even than JFK or MLK...

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13291 Posts
Thursday, August 08, 2013 7:59:45 AM
This is 100% evidence Joe Rogan took too many hits to the head when fighting in MMA also too many drugs which he also constanly blabs about. Would you go to an MMA fighter for scientific evidence?

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2833 Posts
Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:55:38 AM
@5Cats

"BUT: That doesn't prove the crazy theories: it just shows how far ANY government will go to deceive it's own citizens."

Not necessarily: it could just show they're hopelessly inept and keep losing stuff.

They might be losing non-critical evidence just as often, but you're only looking at the critical evidence.

Unless someone can demonstrate that they're losing the evidence for controversial cases far more often than they are losing evidence for non-controversial cases, there's no conspiracy here.

Nickel2
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4503 Posts
Thursday, August 08, 2013 3:44:04 AM
yawn

Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
 553 Posts
Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:42:41 AM
Dr Who original tapes lost...
Wallace and Gromit stuff lost...

We lose poo. How many things get lost and rediscovered all the time in things like the jeffersonian

Chives
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 57 Posts
Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:49:00 AM
I like how he's recanted this view already.

ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10662 Posts
Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:42:22 AM
Getting to the point with this crap
I'd rather see a religious flamer - and I thought I would never say that

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4437 Posts
Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:36:51 AM
Really. Stop now.

ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10662 Posts
Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:20:20 AM
Getting boring now



onoffonoffon
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2110 Posts
Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:03:15 AM
People in the 50's and 60's had much different attitudes about national pride. It would have been easier for people to keep quiet about.

ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10662 Posts
Thursday, August 08, 2013 12:41:09 AM
Yup and Princess Diana is living with Lord Lucan in a love nest overlooking Jupiter
Courtesy of God AKA - Norman the Badger
and Elvis cuts their privet

thecurt
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 413 Posts
Wednesday, August 07, 2013 11:41:23 PM
That video was posted in 2011, try this one.
Neil deGrasse Tyson and Joe Rogan Debate Moon Landings (Jan 2013)

erikthevikin
Male, 30-39, Canada
 718 Posts
Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:37:44 PM
Thanks Gerry.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 13917 Posts
Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:19:13 PM
There would had to have been 1000s of people in on the conspiracy. Considering the maximum number of people who can be trusted to keep a secret is 1, that makes his claims much more implausible than a manned mission to the moon.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:59:26 PM

JadesDitoyr
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 488 Posts
Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:33:14 PM
@5Cats

No no, it was just one gunman. Trust me on this one. It wasn't Lee.

erikthevikin
Male, 30-39, Canada
 718 Posts
Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:04:45 PM
Buzz should punch Joe in the face.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24937 Posts
Wednesday, August 07, 2013 8:44:50 PM
Again I state the obvious:

Just because the "whole story" hasn't been made public? That does not mean the entire thing is "fake".

The US Government DOES have a nasty habit of "losing" critical evidence.
-the ceiling tiles from RFK's assassination? Lost!
-Moon Landing Evidence by the TON? Lost!
-Nixon's 3 CRITICAL minutes of voice recordings? Lost! (erased by "accident")
-Project "Blue Book"? Lost physical evidence in over 100 "unexplained" cases. OOPS! How did THAT happen?

BUT: That doesn't prove the crazy theories: it just shows how far ANY government will go to deceive it's own citizens.

Believeing 100% in the "Official Government Story" is JUST AS CRAZY as believing in the "Crab People". OK?

Lone Gunman... LOLZ! Riiiight!

djwajda
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 849 Posts
Wednesday, August 07, 2013 8:33:05 PM
Here's The Math

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Wednesday, August 07, 2013 7:50:32 PM
100% proof? 100% proof of what, exactly?
Proof that Rogan doesn't have a clue, maybe?

Hell, I like conspiracy theories and I tend to explore them more than most. This one just doesn't hold water. The Van Allen belt is not some kind of impossible, impassible barrier.

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