I Am Bored

Loads of viral videos, games, memes, lists and social networking for when you're bored. Updated every day, so visit often.
LatestPopularMost BookmarkedMost EmailedTop RatedMy FavoritesRandomChat
AllGamesFunnyEntertainmentQuizzesWeirdTechLifestyle, Arts & Lit.News & PoliticsScienceSportsMisc
Submit Content  





rss

friendsmore friends | add your site
Asylum

Holy Taco

Funny Videos

BuzzFeed

NothingToxic

Oddee

Mousebreaker

Online Games

Eat Liver

Online Games

Gorilla Mask

Full Downloads

Norway Games

Damn Cool Pics

Kontraband

Extreme Humor

X Hollywood

I Dont Like You

123 Games

Hollywoodtuna

Funny Games

Cool Stuff

Viva La Games

X - Vids

Smit Happens

Funny Videos

Funny Stuff

ebaumsworld



Back to Listing

5 Million Years Of Climate Change [Pic]

Hits: 10519 | Rating: (2.0) | Category: Science | Added by: 5Cats
Page: 1 2 3 4 5 Next >   Jump to: Bottom    Last Post
5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 22061 Posts
Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:32:04 PM
Just post any contradictory data to global warming.

Um, @Canoas? Did you happen to LOOK AT the origional post? It was warmer before humans even existed! So it is factually possible for the Earth to "Globally Warm" without human "help". Ok? You get it? Good.

Not dead yet @davymid! Lolz!

Nicely said @OldOllie! Those 3 points are spot-on! The ONE thing which could provide power without CO2 is Nuclear. Not hydro-, not wind- not solar-.
Well, "Tidal power" would be good, without CO2, but #1 only close to a sea coast. #2 not every coastal area could be used and #3 it's still "intemittant" and requires fossile fueled back-up!

Just like wind and solar, every GigW of it requires a GigW of FF power too! Explain the logic behind THAT @davymid?

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 11784 Posts
Sunday, March 10, 2013 9:06:16 PM
OK, thanks Ollie for the honest answer and taking the time to post back. Like I said, no ambush here on my part.

We'll take the "hide the decline" discussion on some future thread (this one's dead), but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't discussing science with some illiterate moonbat (for example, denying the scientific fact of Evolution). Just wanted to understand what I'm debating with.

See you on the next debate fella, and I'll listen to what you have to say.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:42:52 PM
But seriously, I'd like to ask, not loaded: Do you believe in evolution but not AGW? No ambush, I swear.

In short, yes. Oh, I'm sure human activity contributes somewhat to global warming, but not nearly as much, say, as walking on a treadmill contributes to heating my house.

To buy into the entire global warming orthodoxy, All of this must be true.

1) The earth is warming.
Perhaps, but the evidence is inconclusive, and we know for a fact that much of it has been completely fabricated. (Can you think of ANY context in which "hide the decline" can mean ANYTHING except "falsify the data?")

2) It's being caused by human activity.
The evidence here is even weaker. If you plot temperature and CO2 concentrations, it appears that CO2 levels FOLLOW temperature, not the other way around. This has been true for eons. Therefore, there is no causal relationship.

(cont.)

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:39:59 PM
3) It is actually possible to stop or even reduce global warming by driving hybrid cars, switching to CFL light bulbs, and burning our food supply.
This is where the global warming scam really falls apart. The prescriptions to fight global warming would do FAR more damage to the environment and cause FAR MORE human suffering than simply adapting to a warmer climate. Some estimates have put the cost of global warming mitigation at $100 TRILLION per degree Celsius.

And yet the one thing that would do 10 times more to reduce CO2 emissions than all the other remedies put together is reviles and shunned. I'm speaking, of course, of nuclear power. That should tell you all you need to know right there. Global warming isn't about saving the earth. It's about bossing people around and taking their stuff, i.e., liberalism.

Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
 429 Posts
Sunday, March 10, 2013 5:37:11 PM
@OldOllie
Provide proof instead of retarded claims. Anyone can make those claims, and lots of idiots like you actually do, but no one can prove it. Why? Because they're not true.

Just post any contradictory data to global warming. Just do it. You could finish this argument in a heartbeat just by posting such information, but you haven't. And I ask the same question as before, why haven't you? The answer is quite simply really, it's because no such data exists. Just look at 5cats for a second, he was so happy that someone finally found proof against global warming.. only to find out he's an idiot who can't even read a simple graphic.
Again, good luck finding it, I'm waiting for the laughs.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 11784 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 9:28:37 PM
Ollie, I'm Irish, I'm pissed off (not because of this) and I'm a bit drunk. So man up. No, seriously, in all honesty, what's your view on creationism and evolution?

I ask this out of respect because you seem like a very intelligent guy and no loaded question here (unlike what you did to me a while back you bastard lol".

But seriously, I'd like to ask, not loaded: Do you believe in evolution but not AGW? No ambush, I swear.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 8:54:05 PM
I quit. There's no use arguing with idiots.

Aw, you're no fun. I actually enjoy arguing with idiots. I was having a great time arguing with you.

I have a suggestion for you. You might also want to look into "creation science." It has a lot in common with "climate science." As a matter of fact, they pursue their "science" in EXACTLY the same manner:

1) Start with your conclusion.

2) Gather only data that supports your preconceived conclusion.

3) Ignore data that contradicts your preconceived conclusion.

4) If someone presents contradictory data, attack them personally for being possessed by Satan/Big Oil, and accuse them of having evil motives.

5) Whatever you do, do NOT engage them on the merits of their arguments, or you'll be tempted by the tree of knowledge and damned to hell/real science.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 11784 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 7:51:52 PM
But yeah, it's all a global conspiracy. Can't trust them scientists. They're all just money-grubbing grant-chasers, anyone who speaks up against the establishment is ostracised etc etc.

Heard that one before. It's exactly what the evolution-denying religious moonbat creationists (like Crakrjak for example) have said about the demonstrably scientific f*cking fact of a thing called Evolution. Anyone who espoused Intelligent Design (Creationism in a cheap tuxedo) was ostracised by the scientific community etc etc etc, Ben Stein even made a movie about it. Look it up, it's a riot.

Look, stop this bullsh*t of "raise the controversy!" There is no such controversy. Human contribution to climate change (at a significant rate) is a fact, Evolution is a fact, etc.

Get the f*ck over it.


davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 11784 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 7:44:17 PM
Save your breath, Canoas. You are indeed arguing with idiots. Scientifically illiterate ones at that, when it comes to the likes of 5Cats and Crakrjak.

Also, 5Cats, I know of not one scientist who claims that (quote) "the Earth is warming up, entirely due to humans". That would be a ridiculous claim to make. Almost as ridiculous as the counter-claim that humans have absolutely zero to do with it. The recent RATE (note keyword "rate") of warming is unprecedented in the geological record as best we can tell.

Let's have a discussion about how much human activity affects global climate, but let's not pretend it doesn't.

But whatever. Multiple sources herein suggest that never mind 87%, more like 97-98% of professional climatoligists accept AGW: http://en.wi

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 22061 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:34:51 PM
So the Earth is warming up, entirely due to humans, and we CANNOT measure this because it's cold at the poles?

That's your arguement? I prefer to be an idiot, thank you.

Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
 429 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 3:53:13 PM
I quit. There's no use arguing with idiots. It doesn't matter what I say, your opinion will never change. Even when I provide proof you just ignore it. Even WHEN you provide proof you ignore it.
You posted this article, right? The moment I explained how the article was proving global warming you instantly dismissed it. Why? If you claimed it was true before I said anything why did your opinion change?
I know why, because you're an idiot.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 22061 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 12:06:32 PM
@Canoas: So the polar ice is keeping the Earth cool?

Lord, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. That wins the IAB All-Time Dumbness Award!

If what you say were true? All the polar ice would be melting at an ever increasing rate, but they're not. ONE Greenland glacier started melting & moving very fast, but it also happened in the 70's too.

The Earth gets warmer, the Earth gets cooler, humans have no say in the matter.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 11:58:29 AM
That's not how science works, no one cares what you believe in as long as it doesn't affect your job. The beauty of science is that it's not subjective.

Oh, I see your problem. You have obviously mistaken global warmism for science.

Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
 429 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 7:50:16 AM
"Only 87%? I'm truly surprised it's that low considering that anyone who doesn't profess faith in global warming cannot even get hired as a climate scientist."
That's not how science works, no one cares what you believe in as long as it doesn't affect your job. The beauty of science is that it's not subjective.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 9:03:40 PM
Actually, recent inquiries have shown that 87% of the scientific body directly investing global warming or in directly related areas support the global warming theory.

Only 87%? I'm truly surprised it's that low considering that anyone who doesn't profess faith in global warming cannot even get hired as a climate scientist.

Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
 429 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 2:43:03 PM
"All these things you ignore, perhaps taking a "little look-see" at them would improve your IQ"
Yes, because the greenland ice sheet isn't melting faster and faster at all, everyone single person who bothered to take a look at it was just high on acids! And the ward hunt ice shelf didn't split either, every single image was clearly photoshopped!
Hey everyone, there's a scientific illiterate idiot on the internet that's saying everything is OK! There's no climate change at all! The amazon tropical forest is not receding, the ice in mountains accross the globe is not melting, the rivers are not drying up, the floods are not getting more frequent and the sea level is not rising!

What? You can watch all this happening with your own eyes? No.. that can't be true, you must be on acid as well! Everything is OK man, you just need to stop doing drugs!

Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
 429 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 2:30:56 PM
"@Canoas: But it DOESN'T make sense! And it uses FAKE data to get it's "results"! And LOTS of scientists have said it's "junk-science". AND it isn't happening! All these things you ignore, perhaps taking a "little look-see" at them would improve your IQ..."

lol.. it doesn't make sense? Why? Because of the graphic you posted here? I already showed you how wrong you are, if anything this data supports climate change. Maybe you should study a bit, you know, stop being scientific illiterate?

"CO2 continues to rise, (it's true) but the temperature has leveled off,"
Seriously? Are you this stupid? See? You don't even understand the climate change theory. And I'm talking about the most basic principles in it. Temperature will not rise as long as there's ice to melt, it's a basic feedback system. If there's any tendency for the temperature to rise the massive ice blocks in the Arctic will melt faster which in turn lowers

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 22061 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 10:07:39 AM
Imagine that! "AGW True Believers" who cherry-pick their beliefs! Just like the theory demands!

CO2 continues to rise, (it's true) but the temperature has leveled off, even dropped a bit. Which is the opposite of your theory. AGW is as valid as the Piltdown Man...

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 22061 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 10:03:21 AM
You are pointing out the handful of results that have been shown to be false,

@Musuko42: Nooo, he's pointing out that the data which FORMED the theory is FAKE (and false too). He also points out that it was NOT "peer reviewed" ever, and was hidden from peers for years. When it was released? It was instantly seen to be crap. You address none of these issues, yet claim to "be right"?

for the global warming theory to go unnoticed by every single other scientist it needs to make sense physically,

@Canoas: But it DOESN'T make sense! And it uses FAKE data to get it's "results"! And LOTS of scientists have said it's "junk-science". AND it isn't happening! All these things you ignore, perhaps taking a "little look-see" at them would improve your IQ...

aquaman1227
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 662 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 7:56:01 AM
"They changed the name to climate change because there's no actual warming, the ice in the polar regions just melts, balancing the temperature. Until there is ice left no actual warming will occur, but the climate will change nonetheless. "

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Temperatures are warming, and the name was changed to include climatological changes as well... Go attend an AMS conference if you're interested in the field, you'll learn something.

Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
 429 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 6:29:12 AM
"
You really are an idiot. There are thousands of scientists who doubt the reality of CAGW. Far more have signed their names to such doubts than have ever signed their names to supporting the myth. Many of them are eminent in relevant fields, including climatology. On the other hand many prominent believers are not scientists, indeed many of the IPCC authors are not scientists at all in any real sense (less qualified than I, with my Earth Sciences degree), most are not published scientists. "

Actually, recent inquiries have shown that 87% of the scientific body directly investing global warming or in directly related areas support the global warming theory.

Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
 429 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 6:21:59 AM
Where your conspiracy fails tremendously is when you claim it only affects a very specific branch of science: global warming. You can't claim other branches are making stuff up because their discoveries actually work and are put into practise, but then you run into the fact that scientists that aren't directly working on global warming also understand what global warming is. It's not a complex field where you need extensive education on it to be able to understand, it's actually pretty basic as sciences go, so everyone pretty much understands it. So
for the global warming theory to go unnoticed by every single other scientist it needs to make sense physically, if not lots of people would notice such a things goes against the laws of physics. However, even though the theory makes sense the data can still be forged to back-up a false theory, but then you have another problem which is the fact that measuring the effects of global warming is incredibly easy, it can be done by anyone r

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2742 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 4:55:13 AM
@CrakrJak

The whole point of the scientific process is that you don't have to take one scientist's word for it: you can attempt to replicate his experiment and observation and see if his results are true or false.

You are pointing out the handful of results that have been shown to be false, and ignoring the many more that have been confirmed time and time again to be true.

CrakrJak, I can use bad reasoning and fraudulent methods to claim that you are a human. My fraud could then be uncovered and my claim of your humanity can be debunked. Others may use proper methods to determine you're a human. But people like you out there would point at my fraud as evidence that you are not a human. Are they right to do that?

That is the failing of what you are attempting to do.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16153 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:49:50 PM
They've recycled these same tactics and added new ones to maintain the global warming myth, all the while campaigning for more funds for their so called research.

They even attempted to silence any criticism of their work and equated skeptics to nazis. Their internal e-mails being discovered was their first downfall, the acquisition of the undoctored data was the second.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16153 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:35:19 PM
Canoas: "..such a conspiracy is not possible unless every single country and every single scientist in the world is part of it."

Not true, in this case it only took about 14 scientists to cook this fraud up and another 40 or so to jump onto the bandwagon. The rest read their papers and didn't bother to vet the information presented.

Then several scientists started asking questions, asking for raw data, algorithms and methodology. Their requests went unanswered and stalled for years, they were then told it was "proprietary" and not available for review. After more demands, the warmists allegedly lost the original data and computer programs.

To make a long story short, after a lot of stonewalling and willful omission, the data simply didn't support the "Hockey Stick" graph. In fact, when the computer program was ran with totally random data, the results were all "Hockey Stick" graphs.

Page: 1 2 3 4 5 Next > 

You Must be Signed in to Add a Comment

If you've already got an I-Am-Bored.com account,
click here to sign in.

If you don't have an account yet,
Click Here to Create a Free Account
 

Back to Listing ^top


Bored | Suggest a Link | Advertise | Contact I Am Bored | About I Am Bored | Link to I Am Bored | Live Submission | Privacy | TOS | Ad Choices | Copyright Policy |
© 2014 Demand Media, Inc. All rights reserved.