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Key to Reversing Climate Change? Green the Desert!

Hits: 5926 | Rating: (3.1) | Category: Science | Added by: Pooptart19
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InTheNameOf
Male, 30-39, Western US
 335 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 1:08:36 PM
I thought we were planning to solve the "problem" by paining rooftops and freeways white.

Another good approach would be for people to stop having too many babies.

I'm still hoping for a zombie apocalypse - that should set things straight.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:01:41 AM

Ok, I don't even have to watch that to know that's now on the list of top ten most idiotic things I've ever heard of.


Or you could--oh, I dunno--take the approach of learning about something before passing judgment on it. Just a thought.

papajon0s1
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 543 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:18:08 AM
"Green the desert"? Ok, I don't even have to watch that to know that's now on the list of top ten most idiotic things I've ever heard of.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 12979 Posts
Monday, March 04, 2013 11:49:31 PM
So, why did all this land turn to desert in the first place?


carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
 6290 Posts
Monday, March 04, 2013 10:43:26 PM
This is more "Turning Grasslands Back Into Grasslands" than greening the desert, but I'd bet if this kind of rehabilitation was done on the edge of the advancing sand deserts, the tide could even be turned there, too.

klaxor
Male, 18-29, Western US
 647 Posts
Monday, March 04, 2013 5:22:42 PM
Nature has it's way of keeping things in check, if nothing is using the land, then it will go away. The only constant factor in his examples is the human one.

40,000 elephants!!!....jeez.

The main issue with his solution is that it relies on a constant moving, pastoral herd. A sedentary herd would just increase the problem by overeating. Meanwhile, the world is becoming increasingly sedentary, and many third world countries are being pushed/bullied into becoming farm based, and I'm not sure that everyone's lifestyle would benefit from a huge increase in meat consumption.

Like Crakrjack said, it's all a part of nature, and I hope that people won't forget to take into account the main factor that caused these issues, us (westerners) thinking that we know better.

DrProfessor
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 3884 Posts
Monday, March 04, 2013 3:44:22 PM
We need the desert to house the Shai Hulud, to provide the spice!!

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16738 Posts
Monday, March 04, 2013 2:54:31 PM
normalfreak: Please do us all a small favor and crawl back under your bridge.

I believe what this scientist found was actually 'common sense'. When the great plains of the USA had huge herds of buffalo roaming around we had grassland that was over 8ft. tall. And despite the wildfires that would regularly burn a lot of it away, the buffalo would came back and replenish it.

Conservatives aren't averse to 'new' ideas, it's just that ideas like this aren't new, they've been a part of nature long before we started fencing in the land.

Scuzoid
Male, 30-39, Western US
 1270 Posts
Monday, March 04, 2013 2:46:51 PM
Not a ecologist or climatologist here, but grew up in the desert, and often fantasized about greenlands and forests while watching Discovery channel or nature documentaries as a kid. When he got to "livestock are a curse to nature, we all know that." I immediately thought "Damn straight." So awesome how wrong I/he/we are.

Bring on the cows. I love burgers anyway.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Monday, March 04, 2013 2:33:39 PM

Wonderful lecture. It's great to hear of some hope in the face of all the climate and environmental challenges we're facing.

@Auburnjunky: Glad to hear you liked this lecture, AJ. I'm happy to learn of conservatives interested in strategies to help the planet. Conservative, liberal, independent, what-have-you: Let's come together and tackle this stuff for the generations to come. And that starts with listening to skilled, unbiased, and dedicated scientists, as this lecturer appears to be. =^.^=

~Squrlz steps off soapbox~

Plangkye
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 253 Posts
Monday, March 04, 2013 1:29:32 PM
Auburnjunky missed the "/sarcasm" tag in normalfreak's post.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 9878 Posts
Monday, March 04, 2013 12:32:21 PM
Whatever Normalfreak. Don't lump that bullpoo (pun intended) with all conservatives.

I am one, and I agree with this and think it's amazing.

CoyoteKing
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2994 Posts
Monday, March 04, 2013 12:27:08 PM
pretty awesome idea

dm2754
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3122 Posts
Monday, March 04, 2013 11:59:52 AM
its been done in Russia; the forest is about 8 × 106 km ².

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normalfreak2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1339 Posts
Monday, March 04, 2013 11:49:38 AM
Well as a Conservative, this guy is full of crap, Science is the vessel for Satan's worshipers. Don't be fooled! /sarcasm

Anyways I love all these talks. They cover so many wide ranging ideas and whatnot.

Pooptart19
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2265 Posts
Monday, March 04, 2013 11:31:50 AM
Link: Key to Reversing Climate Change? Green the Desert! [Rate Link] - Biologist Allan Savory discovered why the world's grasslands were turning into desert and how to solve it.


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