 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 14374 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:28:39 PM
The cops have him cornered in a cabin in Big Bear, Ca. He shot two of them and the police have now ordered the news helicopters away from the area.
That last part likely means SWAT is getting ready to storm in and neutralize him. |
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10257 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:57:10 PM
why do European say math
Well European is singular where as math covers an entire subject. |
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 collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3480 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:37:21 PM
i dont think you guys are getting the part where i've BEEN saying that i don't agree with his actions.
"...accept it that life is not fair, and you can continue on with your life without killing people."
that's what ive been trying to say. i dont care how much i care or dont care about this issue the way he is going about it is wrong.
"And there's people and evidence that says he's wrong! That still is NO excuse for murder, of any kind. Period."
which is why i ALSO said that IF said officers ARE racist that i would CARE less. not they ARE racists and im GLAD that they got what was coming to them and i HOPE he gets their families.
you know what? just butt fuq it. lets all agree that this man has anger issues or SOME kind of issues. i wont be coming back to this comment section. |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
17000 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:30:16 PM
'why do European say math?'
@MacGuffin: Nice one!
@collegebound: And there's people and evidence that says he's wrong! That still is NO excuse for murder, of any kind. Period. |
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 MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2339 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:19:31 PM
collegebound-"if he was never done wrong in the first place then there is no way he could be getting even then is there?"
I realize this may be a stretch for your intellect, but there is a difference between 'thinking' someone did you wrong and someone actually doing you wrong.
And even if he was actually 'done wrong', accept it that life is not fair, and you can continue on with your life without killing people.
So infantile people think they've been 'done wrong' if someone left them only a 18% tip rather than a 20% which they 'obviously deserved'.
Just remember the story Nobody told of the little bird, the cow and the coyote. |
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collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3480 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:23:24 PM
am i the only one who read the manifesto? there are witnesses and people who have already backed him up.
"Just because he's 'getting even' does not equate to him actually being done wrong."
if he was never done wrong in the first place then there is no way he could be getting even then is there? although this does go beyond getting even. he's said so himself. |
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 MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:13:45 PM
Why do Europeans say "maths". "Math" is an all encompassing term for anything that has to do with operation of numbers. Why pluralize it?
Surely you mean, 'why do European say math?' |
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MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2339 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:09:11 PM
collegebound-"alternative motive for as to why he would do all of thi- OH WAIT THERE ISN'T ONE IS THERE HOLY$HIT"
Or he could be doing it because he's just delusional & Bat$hit crazy.
Just because he's 'getting even' does not equate to him actually being done wrong.
It's just as likely that he's 'getting even' because he's pissed that people saw through his attempt to claim 'racism'. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25715 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:08:57 PM
It's 'cause he's black, isn't it. |
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collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3480 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:44:25 AM
MeGrendel: and lets face it. it IS true. we could always ask the individual that he claims was kicked by one of those officers. not even going to try giving an alternative motive for as to why he would do all of thi- OH WAIT THERE ISN'T ONE IS THERE HOLY$HIT |
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collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3480 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:40:59 AM
MeGrendel: you missed the part where i said:
"so long as what he is saying is true about said officers and as long as he sticks to THOSE people."
and yes i would cheer him on IF IT WAS JUST THOSE OFFICERS AND AGAIN ONLY IF WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THEM IS ACTUALLY TRUE. you see it now right? |
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MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2339 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:30:48 AM
CrakrJak-"He has a persecution complex, believes that he's not at fault for any of his problems. Rants about gun control when he himself is a 'gun nut'. He justifies murders, yet was an officer who took an oath to uphold the law. Claims superior tactical knowledge then gives away his own response plan and includes his knowledge base and skill set."
In otherwords, a liberal.
collegebound-"i certainly care a lot less about PoS racist cops"
And yet, you only have the word of a clearly insane individual that they were, in fact, 'PoS racist cops.'
Is that where you usually get your information?
collegebound-"i would probably even cheer him on."
Which just demonstrates that you are a sick, ignorant individual. |
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collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3480 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:29:01 AM
"My diagnosis would be Manic Depression, possibly PTSD as well."
he says in his manifesto that he suffers from both.
"He wrecked his own name more than any BOR ever did, when he finally realizes his pride was his downfall he'll crash hard, perhaps even commit suicide. He's already got the attention he wanted, but he lost in the court of public opinion."
he doesn't care about his pride and if the cops don't find him before he finishes up his buisness he WILL kill himself if he hasn't already. again, its in the manifesto that he doesn't intend on surviving this. as for losing his name, i believe while he may have lost the original meaning of it he HAS created a new meaning for the name Christopher Doner. no matter how this turns out this man has now become somewhat of a demigod. whether or not we/he wanted/wants that to happen or not. |
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collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3480 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:23:31 AM
MeGrendel: i dont think it's the right way to go about things either. but i certainly care a lot less about PoS racist cops dying than their children who (most likely) have nothing to do with it.
that being said i dont really care at ALL so long as what he is saying is true about said officers and as long as he sticks to THOSE people. he's doing things the dumb way. i just don't really care. if he would leave their families alone i would probably even cheer him on. |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:21:48 AM
"This man is batpoo crazy. Nothing more."
He has a persecution complex, believes that he's not at fault for any of his problems. Rants about gun control when he himself is a 'gun nut'. He justifies murders, yet was an officer who took an oath to uphold the law. Claims superior tactical knowledge then gives away his own response plan and includes his knowledge base and skill set.
My diagnosis would be Manic Depression, possibly PTSD as well.
He wrecked his own name more than any BOR ever did, when he finally realizes his pride was his downfall he'll crash hard, perhaps even commit suicide. He's already got the attention he wanted, but he lost in the court of public opinion. |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25715 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:19:25 AM
@ r66tramp - The only thing in your ramblings that even remotely approaches reality is when you called me a prick.
An apology to this guy? He's been driven to the short hand? oy vey
He's a nut back. You can't make sense of it. You can't get in his mind and find a solution. |
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MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2339 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:00:39 AM
collegebound-"i do NOT agree with him going after the families of those that he actually has beef with."
I do not agree with him murdering ANYone, even those he 'has a beef with'.
He has NO justification for his actions. |
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collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3480 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:30:27 AM
"he will be legend despite your view...he already is you fools."
this. i wish he would just stick to killing the officers who wronged him but it is what it is. there is no need for him to harm anyone other than said individuals just like there is no reason for said officers to have so much hate for other ethnicities. that being said i would like to say again that i do NOT agree with him going after the families of those that he actually has beef with. |
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MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2339 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 6:15:11 AM
r66tramp-"this man has been driven to the short hand"
This man is batpoo crazy. Nothing more.
r66tramp-"Can only be stopped with a massive public apology. "
No one owes this man an apology. This man is only owed a bullet to the brain.
r66tramp-"he already is you fools"
Yeah, some idiots consider him a hero. Some people consider Honey Boo Boo a hero, too.
Neither are, but it an extremely sad reflection of our society that some people believe it. |
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 handmadebeat
Male, 60-69, Eastern US
21 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 5:47:21 AM
Wow LAPD getting a taste of there own..hats off for Christopher Dorner |
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 r66tramp
Male, 40-49, Canada
676 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:06:36 AM
Gerry, you prick! I am not a fan! This guy is a fcukin monster! |
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r66tramp
Male, 40-49, Canada
676 Posts
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:57:11 AM
MeGrendel, I like your comments(and others!), for real! But you are missing the crux. Some of you people lack true depth of character. You can not make this situation into a cut and dry explanation. Your shoe does not fit the foot. This man is not legend in his own mind, this man has been driven to the short hand. His mind, actions and hands are tied(in his view). Can only be stopped with a massive public apology.
But nothing can be undone...he will be legend despite your view...he already is you fools. Some of you people need to read more. |
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 handimanner
Male, 50-59, Western US
1222 Posts
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Monday, February 11, 2013 6:05:37 PM
Dorner is right but the retribution is wrong. The cops, lying, screwed with his career but they didn't put a bullet in his brain, he did that, put a bullet in his own brain by overreacting to a bad situation. He gets his wish, LAPD will reopen the case, then whitewash it again, but he trashed his own name by killing innocents.
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collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3480 Posts
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Monday, February 11, 2013 2:32:32 PM
MeGrendel: the only way those 3 trucks look the same is that all 3 of them are trucks... |
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 Sistarose
Female, 30-39, Australia
371 Posts
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Monday, February 11, 2013 1:44:17 PM
MeGrendle, I will clarify two things, I left out qualifiers like perceived and imagined because I was talking about the mans agenda. That would imply that is how he sees them. My comment about the system is broken was referring to the whole system. Not just the Authorities that missed the indicators but also the unstoppable media monster that ensured that his message would get out. Personally I have little feelings for this man. Maybe his first acts were just plain crimes of passion then with no going back, so he chose to commit himself to this course. It does not mater. What I saw when I read the manifesto was someone who had a good idea how to manipulate the system and the system no doubt will respond to this. This will not save him, but it will create a very interesting dynamic. |
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