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Who's REALLY Getting Government Handouts? [Pic]

Hits: 12622 | Rating: (2.9) | Category: Community & Lifestyle | Added by: chalket
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McTabbin
Male, 18-29, Canada
 61 Posts
Sunday, February 03, 2013 8:07:07 AM
The biggest problem of all is the cost of living; the more business, academica outlets are becoming privatized. So freedom is limited. With life and society being reduced to nothing more than constant subscriptions of expense payments for goods and services. What's to stop business companies from having enough money or raising the price of bills to promote a mark-up cost to uplift their branding value of services? $100 a month? $300 a month?

Even with minimum wages and even if Government intervention stopped paying support to people regardless of whom deserved it and who didn't - the cost of living will ignore the standards of living because the cost value does not represent the real value of production. It surpasses that to obscene levels that it allows big bankers to justify inflation - so greed is at play in this regard. Even someone who has one too many children at home to rely on government support can be considered greed for allowing society to treat them as cash cows!

qwyrxian
Male, 30-39, Asia
 74 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 9:39:03 PM
This whole "better yourself" theme is ridiculous. Some people are biologically or socially (because of, very often, how much their parents made) unable to succeed at "higher education". Furthermore, somebody has to work at WalMart (etc.). Why should people unable to be "better" necessarily be consigned to government assistance and a generally bad life? For that matter, why should the Walton family, I'm sure some of whom are not outstanding individuals, necessarily receive a lifestyle that is nearly inconceivable to "Faith" simply due to the circumstances of their birth? The idea of rewarding merit via money is fine...but it seems to me that all people deserve a certain minimum amount of quality of life and dignity. And, of course, the whole point of the infographic is that those who are in the middle shouldn't have to subsidize those at the top.

Ghosties
Female, 18-29, Canada
 3 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 4:03:54 AM
Maybe Faith should get an education, have better financial planning,and maybe stop being a worthless sponge-mean person bitch and deal with her own life in a progressive manner. drated up concepts, I know.

jacobsona29
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 215 Posts
Friday, February 01, 2013 5:30:11 AM
WalMart pays what the the state it employs in says is fair. Not their fault. Tell the states to raise the minimum wage.

Except no matter how high minimum is, the workers who refuse to better themselves to get above it will never be able to "live above" because prices go up with wages. It will never change, even if minimum was $25/hour.

misfit77
Male, 30-39, Western US
 88 Posts
Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:39:36 PM
Boo FN Hoo...she is where she is because of her own decisions.

Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1852 Posts
Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:48:53 AM
Walmart-as american as the mafia.

BlackHaze
Male, 18-29, Europe
 197 Posts
Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:49:04 AM
So Faith got a baby she couldn't afford.

Not Wallmart's problem. It's a Yank mentality problem.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4159 Posts
Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:37:22 AM
madduck-"If a company pays a worker, an adult doing a full time, responsible job"

We're not talking about a 'responsible job', we're talking about Faith, a stock person at Walmart, lining up boxes of crackers on a shelf.

madduck-"many businesses pay low wages because the government tops up their wage bill"

No, businesses pay low wages because that job does not contribute enough to the company to warrent a higher wage.. Government assistance is totally seperate from job wages. One does not effect the other.

madduck-"I am, actually forced to live where I am"

Sorry to hear about the 12 foot, concertina wire-topped fences around your town. I'm glad I live in a country where I can move to where the jobs are.

madduck-"it is bolstering its profits by the public purse"

That is a logical fallacy. The Position pays the same if you're on assistance, or not, or married/single, or male/ female

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5183 Posts
Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:13:58 AM
... topped up. They even had the application forms in the office!!

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5183 Posts
Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:07:12 AM
Megrandel- being deliberately obtuse is not actually clever- so read the whole paragraph. I pointed out, with an example, that many businesses pay low wages because the government tops up their wage bill. I am, actually forced to live where I am... I would prefer to live elsewhere- but as many who are not earning a lot the expense of moving is prohibitive, If a company pays a worker, an adult doing a full time, responsible job- designed as a full time job, with staff and cash handling, ordering, key holding duties and pays a wage which does not permit that member of staff to cover basic living costs while declaring large dividends to shareholders it is bolstering its profits by the public purse. At that time, out of around 20 employees only two - the license holders were earning enough to live on. Of those jobs around ten were designed for part time or under age people- a situation of which all management were aware. It was then and may still be part of the culture that wages could b

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4159 Posts
Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:44:54 AM
madduck-"live, as do I, in a small rural town there are only so many jobs available"

I'm sorry, I was not aware you were being held against your will. Would you like for us to notify the U.N. about your humanitarian abuses?

madduck-"all you lot can suggest is that I should not have had children EVER, or married"

Actually, I never stated such.

madduck-"Simply because you feel that business should pay whatever it wants"

Nor did I state that, either. I stated that the business should pay standard wages for any job classification. Why do you feel that Walmart should be required to pay a stock person more than Kroger pays a stock person for the same exact job?

And, as we're suggesting reading, I'd suggest this for you:


Nova666
Female, 18-29, Canada
 137 Posts
Thursday, January 31, 2013 1:19:23 AM
drat Wal-Mart!

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5183 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:39:09 PM
Megrendel- to avoid getting tied on details I gave an example which was not tied to the USA or to a company- one of my own experience, to demonstrate there are lots of responsible jobs- ones which can or should be done by adults. Your response? you repeat your argument which does not hold up in the example I gave- which shows that the above example shows a point. If you live, as do I, in a small rural town there are only so many jobs available- and it is just not possible for every adult to get a job at 20-30k, rents are high in the South but they still need bar manager, supervisors etc... all you lot can suggest is that I should not have had children EVER, or married- just in case. Or that, with a snap of my fingers, I should gain employment for more. Simply because you feel that business should pay whatever it wants... summer reading- Capital- you might just learn something but I doubt it.

charlatan75
Male, 30-39, Australia
 39 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:28:25 PM
That was long. I got so bored I started reading the ads on my page...

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16709 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:53:40 PM
Wayoldman: Your assumption was way off the mark there bud.

As I've confessed before here on IAB, I've been homeless, no insurance and still have medical problems. I'm disabled and live on much much less than any Walmart employee.

Perhaps you should go pull that foot out of your mouth now.

Jury1of1
Male, 30-39, Western US
 133 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:27:06 PM
Maybe Grace should have thought things through before having sex and getting pregnant. It's not Walmart's fault that her job could be done by a monkey. Maybe Grace should have stayed in school and received an education and skills to get a higher paying job? Nah, couldn't be. It's obviously just the big bad company making everything bad.

gonzoen
Male, 18-29, Europe
 27 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:22:43 PM
There is no such thing as "work equity". You get paid for your work, you're not "investing" anything. If Wallmart suddenly went out of business, the shareholders would lose their money. The workers wouldn't lose the work they already got paid for.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4159 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:14:29 PM
madduck-"minimum wage for young people is far less than that for adults"

Not here. Federal minimum wage is the same for all ages. (Illinois, Michigan, & Washington have state laws that differ.)

madduck-"what is the pOINT of a minimum wage if it is not enough to live on may I ask"

To set the minimum hourly wage an employer can pay an employee to work. The pOINT is nOT to create a living wage.

madduck-"If I do a full time job, as an adult, designed for an adult I expect to be paid a LIVING wage."

Then you better find a job that does so. Stocking shelves for 40 hours does not earn enough profit to your employer to warrent a $25/hr. salary.

Just showing up at a job does not grant you a right to nice wage. You have to work at it.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4159 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:13:17 PM
madduck-"so you suggest that people who run pubs should be children?"

I suggested no such thing (which you know, but can't argue what was said so must make crap up).

Running pubs is a little more difficult than placing a box of condoms on a shelf.

Not to mention, you have to be a certain age to serve liquor.

madduck-"low paid jobs are not designed for adults should be done by a part time child or a moron??"

Well, go to any grocery store...those stocking shelves are many times 15 or 16. The older ones that are still doing that tend to be not-to-bright and/or have crappy work ethic.

madduck-"you must HAVE a functioning brain."

You demonstrate otherwise.

DromEd
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1506 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:47:30 PM
Could somebody loan me a tiny violin so I can play Ozmose the blues?

Ozmose
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 441 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:46:07 PM
Everyone needs to look at the age demographic of these posts. Sorry folks, ages 40-49, but the state of thing were very different when you were working your way up. The job market is pretty bad right now.

You're the same ******* I've seen posting in other topics about the unemployed. Things like, "They can always get a job at Walmart or McDonalds rather than sucking on unemployment's teet".

Well guess what, a lot of people did just that, and you're still bitching about them. This time, because they want a decent living wage from a job they were given no other choice but to take if they didn't want to be a bunch of "government moochers". I think you just like kicking people when they're down. Regardless of the situation.

Sorry, the good ole' days are gone and it's mostly your own damn fault. Your generation sold off your children's and grandchildren's future for a little extra cash now. Look at college tuition over the last 30 years. Pat yo

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5183 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:35:11 PM
MeGrendel- so you suggest that people who run pubs should be children? I gave a careful example- of my country and my job experience and you tell me that low paid jobs are not designed for adults should be done by a part time child or a moron?? Don't be a fool- you must HAVE a functioning brain. There are many, many jobs at minimum wage which cannot be done by children- and minimum wage for young people is far less than that for adults- and what is the pOINT of a minimum wage if it is not enough to live on may I ask. If I do a full time job, as an adult, designed for an adult I expect to be paid a LIVING wage. If we were all solicitors then who would clean the floors, cut hair, or any other essential job??

DuckBoy87
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2613 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:27:48 AM
In regards to the pallets normalfreak2 is referring; I hope the Walton's money is just sitting around collecting dust, because that means that that money isn't being circulated, which means deflation is occurring, which means prices *should* go down.

That's the exact same principle that the government uses when issuing bonds; to get money out of circulation.

kcpd2050
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 333 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:20:15 AM
There will always be minimum wage jobs. I'm not sure why a company has to feel sorry for making money? I started out working at McDonalds when I was a kid. I made 3.45 an hour. I worked hard and constantly looked for new opportunities. I have two kids. I know make over 80,000 a year. It took twenty years but I never gave up. I've never been on food stamps. No one forces anyone to work at Wal Mart.

papajon0s1
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 541 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:50:48 AM
Don't like it? Don't work for Walmart! And welcome to the America I used to know. Yes, I'm a conservative. And yes, I once spent several weeks living in my mini-van so go cry me a river. I didn't go begging Obama for hand-outs, I went and fixed the problem myself, by getting a damn job.

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