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Misleading Anti-Gun Article In Chicago Trib [Pic]

Hits: 12143 | Rating: (2.3) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: whodat6484
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Dover78
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 224 Posts
Friday, January 25, 2013 9:54:08 PM
@VikingGuy: It depresses me that you, a European who by all rights shouldn't care about what happens over here in the "Colonies," understands more about our Constitution than most of our citizenry. I die a little inside every time I hear someone say that America is a Democracy...

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Friday, January 25, 2013 11:44:36 AM
"'The Trib' Editor, Ann Marie Lipinski left in 2008 and Gerould W. Kern was named to replace her. Lipinski was considered to be a moderate libertarian, Kern is hard left and is known for omitting the race of criminals reported in gang and drug violence in Chicago. Unless of course it's a white-on-black crime and then it is immediately deemed 'racist' and makes the front page."

Ha ha. That would explain the shift in Presidential endorsements in 2008.

I'm all for omitting the race of criminals in reporting. It really has no bearing. But if he is then going and using race in other situations to cause white on black controversy then I agree that he is a huge douche.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17301 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:55:42 PM
markust: Many newspapers have changed editors and journalists over the years, many have also changed ownership.

'The Trib' Editor, Ann Marie Lipinski left in 2008 and Gerould W. Kern was named to replace her. Lipinski was considered to be a moderate libertarian, Kern is hard left and is known for omitting the race of criminals reported in gang and drug violence in Chicago. Unless of course it's a white-on-black crime and then it is immediately deemed 'racist' and makes the front page.

jinxjinx34
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 175 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:43:57 PM
Yeah... the sling swivel... ya idiots.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:45:56 PM
The Seattle Times endorsed the Republican candidate for Governor in 2012. He was the better qualified candidate. That is how a newspaper with journalistic integrity behaves.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:36:41 PM
"Yes, they are discovering that. That's one of the reasons many are going out of business."

I can't even say nice spin because it is so lazy. Newspapers are going out of business because we live in a world of instant gratification. People do not want to wait for a paper anymore. They want the news now, this instant. I think it is sad. We have one newspaper in Seattle, The Seattle Times. It is written for everyone. I roll my eyes at a lot of the articles but I am happy that all sides are there. I have a 7 day subscription just because I do not want to see our paper go under. There is something special about news in print.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4777 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:58:15 PM
markust123-"You can not sell the most newspapers by being completely biased towards one side."

Yes, they are discovering that. That's one of the reasons many are going out of business.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13542 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:59:42 AM
Obama should preach for house control so we can sell all houses up for sale and solve the real estate problem. Then my house would be worth way more like my guns!

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:46:33 AM
You guys crack me up so bad 5Cats. Newspapers are there to sell the most papers. That is their number one priority. You can not sell the most newspapers by being completely biased towards one side. You have to be balanced to get the whole audience. You have to look at both sides of a story. Your crazy conservative news outlets push this fantasy that newspapers are liberal so you won't read the truth about the stories, but also so they can say look the liberal newspaper won't even run this story when in fact they are not running it because it is a sensational story that has no place in news. There are exceptions to the rule. In Salt Lake City there is a very conservative newspaper that pushes the Mormon agenda and then there is a normal newspaper. I'm sure there are some one offs elsewhere with cases like this of liberal or conservative newspapers but it is not the norm and I bet abused about equal from both sides.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26337 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:22:35 AM
@markust: Our "Winnipeg Sun" is considered "right wing" but in reality it prints both left and right leaning articles.
It's Chief Editor for many years was an uber-leftist.
The "Free Press" on the other hand is 90% leftist and ALWAYS supports left-wing parties. They gave up on "fair and balanced journalism" decades ago...

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3733 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:18:37 AM
With the amount of information we have available at our fingertips today there's no excuse for a "careless mistake" like this, as they put it in the apology/correction. I'm tired of people immediately giving them a break saying, "Oh relax, it was a mistake, it happens, blah, blah, blah..." I'm an electrician and I've worked in the construction/utility business since I got out of the Marines in 2005, if I make a "careless mistake" at work someone gets hurt, or dies, or their house burns down. If that happens I can't issue an apology saying, "Sorry guys, it was an honest mistake, sh*t happens," and expect everyone to be satisfied with that and go on with their lives.

VikingGuy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2416 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:17:03 AM
i find it comedy how the entire US political spectrum is a confused mess, along with how everyone keeps beating war drums based on silly party support forgetting what democracy means at all.
also seems to be a brilliant way to distract from the actual topic, namely who is being affected or punished by these laws, what they actually mean or do, and why it's okay that even more rights get limited, and most of all, why many seem to cheer on the death of their own constitution. it also raises the question how many have actually bothered to read that murder in any form is already quite illegal and generally not looked upon kindly, as well as the social situation in the US and whether dividing further into factions is going to fix a shattering society full of problems.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:53:45 AM
Never mind CrakrJak. I think I know your problem. You are confusing the sensational stories of Fox News/Rush Limbaugh/Glenn Beck with being conservative, and because a conservative newspaper would never print that garbage you think they are liberal. Conservative newspapers usually tend to be more of a real form of conservative which you lost touch of long ago.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:46:27 AM
CrakrJak, if the Chicago Tribune is not conservative leaning why did they endorse a conservative for president for 161 years up until a local was in the race? That sounds pretty conservative to me.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17301 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:01:54 AM
FoolsPrussia: The Chicago Tribune is NOT the 'conservative' newspaper of Chicago, it's heavily liberal. The Chicago Sun-Times is moderate, at least they try to be fair, but they've shown liberal tendencies at times too. The Chicago Daily Herald did endorse Mitt Romney. It's more business and suburban oriented than the other two Chicago papers.

I live in Illinois, so trust me on this review.

CoyoteKing
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2994 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:55:58 AM
/facepalm. this is why print media is dieing. they dont realize that we have the internet and can call them out on their bull poo

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13542 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:54:06 AM
When shown a plan isn't working spew nonsense comparing legal gun ownership to legalizing theft and insist the control should continue. Hmmmm ok got it!

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4777 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:35:40 AM
5Cats-"The picture was corrected, then the whole article yanked from the website shortly after the storm of protest hit."

As it should be, but I'm sure there's a few copies of the paper that's tacked to the wall of a few anti-gunner's walls to remind them how dangerous that swivil bayonet lug is.

The point is it should have been accurate to begin with.

But then, this writer (and the paper) were more worried about spreading fear than they were about being accurate.

Finker
Male, 40-49, Europe
 506 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:02:20 AM
McGovern by that logic you should find the city with highest theft rates and make theft legal then you could steal your stuff back and some of theirs, that would soon solve the problem as escalation of a problem is always the best solution

(I know this is nonsense but fight fire with fire)

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26337 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:52:11 AM
@MeGrendel: It was on page 18, I'm guessing that's in the front section.

The picture was corrected, then the whole article yanked from the website shortly after the storm of protest hit.

idk if the "correction" was printed on paper or is just an on-line thing. I'm guessing just on-line.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13542 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:34:07 AM


MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4777 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:28:29 AM
FoolsPrussia-"more likely than most to give professional journalists the benefit of the doubt"

And after watching the continuing liberal slant of journalist, the sensationalism, the LACK of impartiality, of the misrepresentations and out and out lies...I'm not.

FoolsPrussia-"definitely the conservative leaning paper in Chicago"

It's all relative. In Chicago 'conservative leaning' puts them just barely to the left of center, instead of miles to the left of other papers.

FoolsPrussia-"it really doesn't matter where they say it gets mounted"

Have you noticed that about liberals? Facts don't matter. If the facts don't support them, or are against them, it 'just doesn't matter'.

Ask Hillary "What difference does it make?" Clinton.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13542 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:27:43 AM

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4777 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:25:59 AM
FoolsPrussia-"Here is a correction issued by the paper"

Looks like they were 'mistaken' on much more than just the swivil.

There's two options on why that is so:
1) The writer is totally incompetent.
2) The writer is attempting a disinformation campaign, and got caught.

Actually, I'm guessing both are true.

My questions:
What page did the original article run on? (probably page once of one of the sections)
What page did the correction run on? (probably the last page of the want ads, if they bothered to print it at all instead of just going with the online correction)

Vimto
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2631 Posts
Thursday, January 24, 2013 5:10:48 AM
Whoever printed this shoudl be shot, the registration is miles off.

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