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Two Firefighters Shot In New York State, 2 Injured

Hits: 5683 | Rating: (1.9) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: Corydoras87
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Finker
Male, 40-49, Europe
 506 Posts
Friday, December 28, 2012 4:09:39 AM
More guns around, easier to get a gun. Not sure what is so hard to get about greater gun controls.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13542 Posts
Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:42:48 AM
I'm telling you, controlling the sale of matches is the key. Wait, you don't have anything in The Constitution about the right to bear fire, do you?


I'm sure the UK's working on that along with the ban of sharp objects(well more so.) Only aproved sporks will be legal to use with a proper license.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13542 Posts
Wednesday, December 26, 2012 5:37:51 AM
If the stats have shown us nothing else, it's that Americans as a nation can't be trusted with firearms.


Said the twit from the continent that started both world wars.


The gun was ILLEGAL how will more laws help against people who refuse to obey them?

chance13
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 221 Posts
Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:40:48 AM
I love how all these stories keep popping up about people that have illegal firearms and then the Europeans scream out "Gun control!"...um...they have the guns illegally...would gun control matter? Not at all...they have the guns illegally.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14830 Posts
Tuesday, December 25, 2012 9:54:53 PM
No, ban them all from the USA. If I wanted to get a firearm, I'd have to go to another country to get one.

Yeah, that's worked so well with drugs. Kids have to drive all the way to Mexico to buy pot now.

dubstepdubst
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 63 Posts
Tuesday, December 25, 2012 5:44:00 PM


piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3892 Posts
Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:30:02 AM
Shelworth ohh cool let's use guns like hammers,maybe better if loaded, cause for you they are the same.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3892 Posts
Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:28:37 AM
Fehz Ohh and guess why is so easy for people to get "illegal" weapons? Cause in your country is easier to find a gun on the ground than a quarter of dollar in the street.

Shelworth
Male, 50-59, Western US
 340 Posts
Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:00:25 AM
Oh why, oh why didn't they ban hammers after he claimed his first victim?

Fehz
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 582 Posts
Tuesday, December 25, 2012 7:04:31 AM
" As a convicted felon, Spengler was not allowed to legally possess weapons, but he had "several different types of weapons" Monday, the police chief said."

Clearly, gun control would have helped here. It's not like anyone smuggles guns into the US, right? Right?

johnkelley
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 59 Posts
Tuesday, December 25, 2012 6:37:20 AM
HA! The caption contradicts itself! New York has some of the strictest gun laws in the U.S.! More guns in the right hands is a good thing. The lunatic shooter already killed his Grandmother and was a Felon, so it was illegal for him to obtain a weapon, as well. The Police showed up and exchanged fire with the suspect, and the article states, "possibly saving many lives". If an armed person was there before that cop, the same results would have been likely. Thank God the cops showed up in time, this time, but what if they couldn't?

ledgehead
Male, 40-49, Canada
 603 Posts
Tuesday, December 25, 2012 6:37:10 AM
I know, arm the teachers and fire fighters. Oh hell give everyone guns...wait they already do!

ledgehead
Male, 40-49, Canada
 603 Posts
Tuesday, December 25, 2012 6:32:48 AM
I wake up every morning, kiss the ground and thank the lord I do not live in the great US of A!

You can keep all your guns and freedom of free speech and criminals and .....

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10160 Posts
Tuesday, December 25, 2012 5:22:55 AM
I've said it once, and so have a lot of other people.

If you take guns away, then only criminals will have guns. Period. Point blank. No other way around it.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10160 Posts
Tuesday, December 25, 2012 5:21:51 AM
How do you propose that's done Drac? There are 200 million guns here. That's just the ones we know about. That does not include the ones that criminals already have that are not registered.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12616 Posts
Tuesday, December 25, 2012 3:04:19 AM
"They guy was convicted felon. It was already illegal for him to possess a firearm of any kind. What do you want to do, make it SUPER-DOUBLE-SECRET ILLEGAL for felons to have firearms?"

No, ban them all from the USA. If I wanted to get a firearm, I'd have to go to another country to get one.

If the stats have shown us nothing else, it's that Americans as a nation can't be trusted with firearms.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14830 Posts
Monday, December 24, 2012 9:23:46 PM
They guy was convicted felon. It was already illegal for him to possess a firearm of any kind. What do you want to do, make it SUPER-DOUBLE-SECRET ILLEGAL for felons to have firearms?

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3733 Posts
Monday, December 24, 2012 9:20:51 PM
I'm sure someone already brought this up, but guess what? The guy's a convicted felon, did 17 years for killing his own f*cking grandmother. Those convicted of felonies in NY State are not allowed to own firearms therefore the weapons he had were illegal. You can take your "We clearly need more guns to stop this" caption and stick it right up your a$$.

BBJellyFish
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 533 Posts
Monday, December 24, 2012 9:20:18 PM
People get shot every day. Just cause it's on the news doesn't mean that all of a sudden people are getting shot. PEOPLE WERE ALWAYS GETTING SHOT! They're just on TV now. Now take you're anti-gun bullpoo somewhere else ya damn commie!

BBJellyFish
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 533 Posts
Monday, December 24, 2012 9:18:44 PM
CONSPIRACY! O.o

synaw
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 58 Posts
Monday, December 24, 2012 8:51:46 PM
@5cats
Fort hood was a military base
VT has its own police unit
Columbine had security guards
nuff said

xelous
Male, 18-29, Western US
 2576 Posts
Monday, December 24, 2012 8:43:04 PM
He was not legally allowed to own any firearms as a felon. So... that law worked out great didn't it.
More gun laws will do absolutely nothing to stop this sort of thing, it will actually inhibit responsible gun owners from taking action against crazy a-holes like this

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26333 Posts
Monday, December 24, 2012 4:37:48 PM
@Corydoras87: Yes, the police WERE on the scene, it states in the article:

"Police officers rushed to the scene, and one of the first ones there exchanged fire, "in all likelihood, (saving) many lives," according to the police chief."

So YES, more guns DID save people's lives. For sure the two wounded firefighters would have been killed too, plus others who would have arrived, if not for the Police SHOOTING BACK.

This guy was convicted of First Degree Murder! But he was out, walking around, free as a bird... Thanks to "liberals"...

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26333 Posts
Monday, December 24, 2012 4:32:44 PM
Obviously another LAW would have prevented this from happening!

So what if he killed himself, the threat of "jailtime" would have made him NOT do this, right liberals?

No one's answered my query:
Why are the very same people who are OPPOSED to the death penalty, "because it doesn't prevent crimes" so strongly FOR more gun laws? Do new laws "prevent crime"?

@Randy: It doesn't fit the "meme" so it is ignored. ONLY guns kill people, not bombs, fire or airplanes...

This dude had illegally aquired guns, no law in the universe would have prevented this. Period!

thefatviking
Male, 18-29, Europe
 202 Posts
Monday, December 24, 2012 4:00:58 PM
OMG, some non-nice individual shot at firefighters!!!!
This poo happens all the time in Europe.
And guns are MUCH heavier here than they would be after AWB in the US.

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