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TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:58:42 PM
MattPrince: God speaks to every one of us, and we all can hear His voice. John 6:44-45. All true Christians have heard God's voice. So can you.

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:49:00 PM
But you dont know god do you Smiley. You think you do. God doesnt actually talk to you, you just interpret stuff in your head.. its all internal, your listening to the sound of static and hearing holy voices.

Cmon admit it.. god doesnt speak to you. never did.


TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:53:08 PM
HG: filtering a bible verse with prejudice is the source of a lot of the lies. And you're right, a lot of people don't know what's best for them, look at the state of the government the people vote for. Lastly, if you don't know God, how can you know how you'll react when you do? how can a person have an experience eating pizza if they've never had it before? Sure they can guess, but we all have things we thought we'd dislike, until we tried them and found out we liked it.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4971 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:13:10 PM
TheGuySmiley

"a fact to many people today"

What a pointless way to judge the validity of something. A lot of people today are morons. A lot of people today think hurricanes are caused by homosexuals. A lot of people think the holocaust never happened. A lot of people think the earth is flat.

A lot of people also happen to believe in imaginary friends, talking snakes, zombies, two of every animal living on a boat, and a bunch of other fairy tales for simpletons.

"You can get to know God"

I don't think God exists. However, even if I did believe in your God I wouldn't worship him. I'm not retarded enough to look at a being capable of mass genocide and say oh what a loving and forgiving lord.

"the lies against Him"

What the hell are you talking about? The only things I mentioned are things straight from the bible. How are those lies?

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 9:56:16 PM
Chalket: the truth of God can be discovered by following the ancient procedures found in the Holy Bible. It's been repeated by many over and over for countless generations. Why do you think it's the most widely sought after book? Even so, some could study it a lifetime and never learn because their heart and mind is closed to the possibilities it holds. But a lot of people who live by faith in God also live by logical and rational reasoning, in fact, many are top scientists! Yes, God is logical! But everyone is unique and, contrary to what you assume, we all are equal. No one is better or 'superior' than another. 665 characters here, whats the point?

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:13:29 PM
(I had to stop that last post early, the counter read "666" when I posted)

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:12:09 PM
Wow, TheGuySmiley... I really don't think I've ever come across a more sanctimonious person in my entire life! But then, what would I know? I'm a mere doodler and you're the impatient calculus master!

You are right though, it's little use proselytizing here. Your pearls are best cast elsewhere, I seriously doubt there will be any conversions in this forum tonight. What you call "prejudice" and "assumptions" I call reason and logic. I prefer my truth to be provable, repeatable fact - not some elusive, exclusive "you must experience it to understand" gut feeling that does little more than help you feel "special" and superior to us "grade school doodlers."

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:28:35 PM
HG: What you call an opinion is a fact to many people today, has been for generations of people, and will be all the generations to come. There was a time when i didn't know God too, but i took the time to find the truth. All i can say is when you truly get to know God, you'll understand things in a different light. You can get to know God like many people have, and find out the real spirit of God, rather than the lies against Him. If you do, maybe you too will be able to understand the fact of how deeply He loves us all, and understanding His love like never before..

Angilion: im quite sure you know very little about my life, and are not qualified to remotely say. But you can always break free of negativity by striving to love more, because it cures many ailments in ourselves and in the world. The choice is ultimately yours.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11288 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:04:59 PM
A few things i've learned is that leaning on prejudice and assumptions is more often than not unwise to do.


Then why have you based your entire life on doing exactly that, to a ludicrous degree?

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4971 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 3:40:52 PM
TheGuySmiley

"I'm quite open to learning new things"

You can never learn anything contrary to your opinion on god as loving, just, and merciful because you ultimately will never accept that god is not loving, just, and merciful no matter what he does.

He could kill every single person on the planet and you would still believe it. In fact, he did. So there is no talking with you rationally because NOTHING will ever change your opinion. You believe God can do no wrong no matter how much wrong he does.

"when people start throwing names in a conversation, they rarely have more to offer"

Not sure what that refers to, I've not called you a name once.

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 3:30:42 PM
@TGS - and one example that's not fictional?

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:57:17 PM
Chalket: In other words, most people who know the glory of God are more than happy to share what they know, because that is a truth that can benefit many. But to put it in light, if you were a calculus master, and substituting a grade school math that was learning calculus, of whom the majority of the students were only interested in doodling, you'd quickly learn that you can really only teach those who want to learn, and it's nearly futile to teach the doodlers. Granted, you can still try, but there always comes a point they have to let them go until the doodlers have a desire to learn. Now, i'm not really here to teach, i simply commented on the picture that God did make everything, and faith in God would go on forever so people should get used to it. Questions come up and i do the best i can to answer. But when it's clear that there is no desire to learn, but to 'doodle' so to speak, all i can do is point to the text book and move on.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:30:19 PM
MattPrince: look up Lazarus, and read up about Jesus Christ.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:28:48 PM
HG: I'm quite open to learning new things, and do almost every day, contrary to what you may think. A few things i've learned is that leaning on prejudice and assumptions is more often than not unwise to do. Also, i've found that when people start throwing names in a conversation, they rarely have more to offer until they can regain control and see things rationally.

chalket: there's an old adage "cast not pearls before swine". What that implies is that scriptural truths or knowledge should not be put in front of people who do not appreciate their value. Now before you go off thinking this is to call people 'swine', please read the last several pages of comments and find me one other than me and lets see.. crakrjak that i can think of right away who woudl appreciate it? This could have been alleviated if there wasn't so much reliance on prejudices and mockery and scorn, but it is what it is, so i'm left to say what i said.

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:19:27 PM
TGS "Sure we can procreate and kill each other. But can we create entirely new species to roam the earth that lives, breathes, thinks, and feels? What about restoring life to the people who died in the World Wars, ok long shot, then how about old lady who died yesterday morning at 10 o'colck in the morning? Our power over life and death is extremely limited, but God's is not. "

Well we have created several new species of drosophila under laboratory conditions.. and the rest is moot because god's not done that either.

Your power of self delusion is impressive however.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:09:57 PM
TGS: Sorry if my comments came off as angry or lashing out, I assure you neither was intended. (This is just the internet, after all.) I would say it was more OUTrage than rage, as in "what you've been saying is outrageous!"

You were presented with several valid, logical questions which you flippantly dismissed with "if you really want to know, the answer is out there" and "sincerely seek the answers, you'll find them right under your nose" and "because we know not what He does." Then you have the gall to accuse Angilion of wearing "spectacles of bias" for doubting you? When literally EVERYthing you've said here is TOTALLY biased by your blind faith? To the point of denying even logic and knowledge? How do you not see the hypocrisy in that? You talk much of prejudice, yet you're "faith" seems to blind you to your own.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4971 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:05:44 PM
TheGuySmiley

"HolyGod: if you want to continue to live by prejudice, it will only make it harder for you to learn the truth."

Yes. If you continue to live your life by the silly ancient fairy tales you have been brainwashed with since birth then you'll never find out the truth until you die and nothing happens. Enjoy your delusions.

Excuse me, I have to go out back and sacrifice a goat to Zeus.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:35:23 PM
chalket: i understand you're upset, but it's not uncommon for people to quickly lash out when in a rage or in anger without fully thinking things through. It's something that seemed to come through Angelon's response (which i responded to that seemed to upset you), because it relied quite a bit on prejudice. The post was simply pointing that out. Also, in your last post when you quoted my post and said '.. this is always religion's final answer. How convenient ..' then went on to put down religion. Well, you missed that i also said " All we can do is seek to understand why." Which can mean through prayer, through science, or through any other means available to us. It's a journey of learning. But hey don't think i'm being hard on you, after all, i'm not claiming to be perfect, and nobody is perfect, lest they be the Lord.

HolyGod: if you want to continue to live by prejudice, it will only make it harder for you to learn the truth.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:13:28 PM
Draculya: you're still mocking people, in this day and age, when being excellent, honourable, kind, and loving is needed more than ever? Not to mention the 1000s of years of history we have that indicates it's a flawed way? I'd like to say it's a laughing matter, but it's not.

MattPrince: Sure we can procreate and kill each other. But can we create entirely new species to roam the earth that lives, breathes, thinks, and feels? What about restoring life to the people who died in the World Wars, ok long shot, then how about old lady who died yesterday morning at 10 o'colck in the morning? Our power over life and death is extremely limited, but God's is not.

Also, in due time, science and religion will work hand in hand. Despite what people who side for either side insist. Both are unique tools for unique jobs, and rejecting is like a carpender rejecting all the slot screwdrivers in his tool chest: lame or blind.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:09:37 PM
It is pointless to judge God's judgements or decisions as wrong or unworthy, because we know not what He does.

In the face of real issues and difficult questions, this is always religion's final answer. How convenient to always have that tired, old "we're just not capable of understanding" routine to fall back on when you're backed into a logical corner!

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4971 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:08:50 PM
TheGuySmiley

HAHAHAHAHA

God could come down to earth, anally rape every child on the planet, tie them upside down, torture them to death, and bathe in their blood. Even then you'd say "God is holy and just and merciful", "perhaps that is what they brought upon themselves", and "It is pointless to judge God's judgements or decisions as wrong or unworthy, because we know not what He does".


chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:05:08 PM
TheGuySmiley: actually it seems a lot of things you've brought up are viewed as if with spectales of bias


Holy batcrap, you really have the nerve to accuse someone else of being biased?! You freaking hypocrite! Every single one of your platitude-filled posts has been NOTHING BUT biased toward your baseless beliefs!

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:56:42 AM
From the Scientific American :-

Analytic thinking undermines belief because, as cognitive psychologists have shown, it can override intuition. And we know from past research that religious beliefs—such as the idea that objects and events don't simply exist but have a purpose—are rooted in intuition. "Analytic processing inhibits these intuitions, which in turn discourages religious belief," Norenzayan explains.

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:46:55 AM
@TGS what a load of bullsh*t.

Mankind has power over life and death. drating produces life. Killing takes it away. You don't need to be a God to do that, though it appears if you are a god its OK to do both without care for your followers because they, by definition, blindly follow you regardless, and come up with pearlers like 'his infinite wisdom blah, blah' as the ultimate lie.

Seeking God is a bit like looking at a static picture. Look for long enough and you will see something.

Reason >> God.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 11917 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:45:50 AM
@TGS looooooool You really believe that? In this modern day and age? Makes me laugh.

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