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Palfas
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 410 Posts
Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:21:38 AM
Don't bother trying to reason with Crackr or 5cats, they already know all the "facts". Don't you know it's documented, and if you disagree, then you're clearly following a logical fallacy.

@Holygod. I love how you almost defended Phelps to make a point, I wouldn't have had the balls, but you shut those guys up good on that.

IAmJohnGalt
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 6 Posts
Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:07:52 AM
Bahahaha... A comment on the racial segregation map- pretty damn close to the 1952 election map, with the "segregation required" states reflecting the states that voted democrat... Seriously, its 2012- if there are any racists left, they are clearly ignorant and do not deserve our time. However, your maps will only accomplish your evident goals w/ the "American Idle" types (you know the kind, absolutely 0 critical thinking ability).

papajon0s1
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 579 Posts
Monday, November 12, 2012 9:18:11 AM
Oh dear Lord! Southern Democrats were pro slavery until about 1877! And it was white voters who were tolerant of the Civil Rights act in the 60's who began voting GOP! All this tells is that yes, after further review, our school systems still suck! Read some darn history!

Dragonace
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 298 Posts
Monday, November 12, 2012 7:27:50 AM
This is exactly what I was stating about the map posted last week about education level. The way people voted in this election had more to do with skin color than anything else. People are simply using party politics to cover up their racism and bigotry.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5072 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 1:47:30 PM
5Cats

"
I said not all Republicans are racists.
@HG: LIAR!"

Seriously?

Saturday, November 10, 2012 4:34:19 PM

"I am NOT saying all republicans are racists."

It was the last line in my very first post on this thread.

" There are LOTS of Democrat BLACK members who are out-and-out racists against blacks, whites, Jews, Asians... NOT according to @HG though... "

Ughhh. I spend half my time on here correcting you about the most basic things. Here is my quote to Crakr:

" certainly there are black people who hate white people and that would make them racists. Allow me to re-phrase. All white racists vote Republican. "

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17298 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 1:10:08 PM
FP: ...fascism's goal to promote the rule of people deemed innately superior while seeking to purge society of people deemed innately inferior


This is also known as eugenics, and the eugenics movement in America is personified by Planned Parenthood, The March Of Dimes and The Rockefeller Foundation, among others.

Fascism is mostly about social darwinism, trying to 'evolve' better human beings through breeding and sterilization/population control.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26233 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:36:30 PM
I am saying all racists are republicans.

@HG: "No True Scotsman" arguement = check!

I said not all Republicans are racists.

@HG: LIAR! Troll, all you do these days is troll. Sad, pathetic even! It's not even witty trolling, just libtard talking points and hate-speak...

I don't agree that "all racists are Republicans."

Thank you @FoolsPrussia! There are LOTS of Democrat BLACK members who are out-and-out racists against blacks, whites, Jews, Asians... NOT according to @HG though...

@LillianDulci: I'd say your teachers "SEEMED" impartial because you yourself lean-left. In University it's been documented over & over how HARD left those in charge are...


HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:11:08 AM
Not prison, military. Close, though.

Ah, gotcha. I was trying to think of something that could compel you to stay in one location and prison is all that came to mind. Bragg?

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3400 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:08:25 AM
@Bakcagain:

Fascism and Nazism are not far-left ideologies. There is often a point when you get to the extremely far ends of the spectrum where the left and right blur together in some ways. Nazism and Fascism both incorporate elements from the left and right.

From Wikipedia's definition of fascism:

"Fascism was founded during World War I by Italian national syndicalists who combined left-wing and right-wing political views. Fascists have commonly opposed having a firm association with any section of the left-right spectrum, considering it inadequate to describe their beliefs, though fascism's goal to promote the rule of people deemed innately superior while seeking to purge society of people deemed innately inferior is identified as a prominent far-right theme. Fascism opposes multiple ideologies, such as: communism, conservatism, and liberalism."

Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
 553 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:41:43 AM
I have to agree with Crakrjak about the wrong usage of Far Right. Usually people call fascists the far right. They're not they're far left, the Nazi's were socialist. It's the cleverest association in history every-time you say far right you damage the center right by association. Far right would be libertarians. Left and Right are economic terms, authoritarianism and anarchism are the over terms which describe how interventionist the government is in your affairs.

Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
 553 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:38:15 AM
@HolyGod NO a lot of white racists will vote for third party candidates. Republicans are too pro latino and skilled immigration for them...

Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
 553 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:36:15 AM
@crarjak I know if only conservatives stuck to their ideals and allowed ze gays to marry. Seriously though conservatism has changed, it used to be about fiscal responsibility and keeping the state out of your life. Now it want's to interfere and we sane ones have to call ourselves fiscal conservatives. Conservatives should get more votes, just practice what you preach and sop trying to control my life to fit your views it's not the conservative way!

gary8162
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 821 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:17:06 AM
You know, a lot of people seem to enjoy baiting CrakrJak and I can't figure out why? All of his arguements are most often well reasoned and factually supported. I know that politically, I agree with him more often than not and religiously, we differ a bit. But why does it seem like everyone wants to bash him?
No, I'm not trying to defend him. He's quite capable of doing that on his own. But I am trying to understand the mindset of some of the others on this site.

LillianDulci
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2696 Posts
Saturday, November 10, 2012 11:02:53 PM
The only way what you said is actually valid is if you're saying they're pushing "liberalism" on us by promoting tolerance and acceptance of others, and promoting knowledge and learning. If that's the case, then I absolutely support teachers teaching these things.

LillianDulci
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2696 Posts
Saturday, November 10, 2012 11:00:35 PM
"Most young college-age people have had over a decade of liberal indoctrination by their public school teachers and then get an even bigger dose of liberalism by their college professors."

Lies, or very very uncommon at least. In high school my teachers were as impartial as possible. In college, my teachers don't really have a reason to mention their political beliefs considering they're mostly engineering and math classes. The closest I've got is a communications professor who used a clip from the daily show as an example for something we were learning.

The only time I've actually witnessed a professor trying to influence political opinion was when my mom took a history class. Her professor was a tea bagger who sent them a bunch of pro tea party emails and included extremely biased questions (which were his opinion and had nothing to do with history and were sometimes false) on the tests.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5072 Posts
Saturday, November 10, 2012 10:25:45 PM
CrakrJak

"Really? What about The New Black Panthers, La Raza, The Nation of Islam and Fred Phelps of the WBC (who's a democrat)."

Absolutely, fair enough. I don't think you can automatically characterize those groups as racists. However, certainly there are black people who hate white people and that would make them racists. Allow me to re-phrase. All white racists vote Republican.

Is Phelps a racist? Phelps hates "fags". Gay isn't a race. Phelps worked for the civil rights movement in the 60s. He is most certainly not a racist.

xelous
Male, 18-29, Western US
 2576 Posts
Saturday, November 10, 2012 10:21:08 PM
Whodat's maps were much more informative than any others posted. Kudos

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17298 Posts
Saturday, November 10, 2012 9:52:41 PM
[cont.]

That naivety usually starts to wane when people get married, have children, and pay on a mortgage of their own, and the demographics back me up on this. This "marriage gap" seems to be growing because people are waiting longer to get married than they used to.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17298 Posts
Saturday, November 10, 2012 9:52:28 PM
Zira: Most young college-age people have had over a decade of liberal indoctrination by their public school teachers and then get an even bigger dose of liberalism by their college professors. All of this 'mind shaping' is then also bolstered by liberal/progressive websites and the mainstream news media.

All this push-based opinion over the last 4 decades has distorted public awareness to the point now that people like you believe republicans are 'far right' or 'extremist'.

The truth is republicans haven't changed their party platform in two generations, which is really rather centrist. What has changed is the education of American children has become so far left that anything centrist seems 'far right' in their naive point of view.

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:32:31 PM
In the interest of getting back the olde Republicans (see my examples) and returning some badly needed sanity to one of our political parties, I'm gonna offer some pointers here.

Step 1. Admit you have a problem. The GOP is a catastrophuck with minority/women/young/ voters *by design*. This is no accident, this is intentional, and it has been that way since Goldwater sold the party's soul for the white southern vote in 1964.

Step 2. Address the heart of the problem by changing the attitudes and the policies that reflect the worst that constituency comes up with. Note: this means a whole helluva lot more than just lame tokenism, it's gonna take nothing less than a direct confrontation with the party's dark side to exorcize these demons.

If Dems could do the same thing in the middle of the 20th century, and come out of that struggle ethically victorious, than Rs can do the same now. But it's gonna take WORK.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3400 Posts
Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:15:36 PM
There's also this map of racist post-election tweets.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17298 Posts
Saturday, November 10, 2012 6:44:33 PM
Now awaiting for HG to come up with some lame backpeddling that he didn't really say that all racists are republican.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3400 Posts
Saturday, November 10, 2012 6:43:38 PM
'Fred Phelps of the WBC (who's a democrat)'

I don't think either party wants anything to do with Phelps. I've even seen Hannity rake Shirley Phelps over the coals.

I don't agree that "all racists are Republicans." There are certainly plenty of racist Democrats. However, I do think the Republican party has a bigger problem with racism. To say that minority voters are Democrats because they're being duped by the party is in itself pretty offensive, because it implies that those individuals aren't smart enough to realize when they're being misused.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17298 Posts
Saturday, November 10, 2012 6:39:40 PM
HG: I am saying all racists are republicans.


Really? What about The New Black Panthers, La Raza, The Nation of Islam and Fred Phelps of the WBC (who's a democrat).

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3400 Posts
Saturday, November 10, 2012 6:35:47 PM
'However there are lots of racists still in America and they certainly vote Republican.'

Yes, like these people.

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