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Lincoln: The Official Movie Trailer

Hits: 6027 | Rating: (3.2) | Category: Entertainment | Added by: Crabes
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simbha
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 412 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 7:15:32 AM
This man is such an amazing actor - the finest actor of his generation IMO. He simply doesn't get the recognition he deserves - yes, even *with* all the recognition he does get. Highly selective and professional.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12119 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:59:12 AM
Where's the axe?

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 8:47:55 PM
"$50 says they don't mention that Lincoln was a Republican, and the Democrats were pro slavery."

Let me guess, you are a graduate of Glenn Beck University.

Dead-Kittens
Male, 30-39, Canada
 984 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 7:48:28 PM
I thought there were supposed to be zombies or something... meh well.

Jury1of1
Male, 30-39, Western US
 133 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 6:21:03 PM
The Internet is laughing and pointing at Andrew155.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16941 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 3:54:10 PM
Maryland, Missouri, Tennessee, the new state of West Virginia, and the District of Columbia prohibited slavery before the Civil War ended.

That left only Kentucky and Delaware, both of which were below the Mason-Dixon line and NOT northern states.

If you can't concede to the fact that during Lincoln's presidency the slaves were indeed freed, then you're stupidity is evident. The 13th Amendment only freed two stubborn border states and did so just months after he died.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16941 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 3:40:34 PM
Andrew155: You've went full retard.

Read This, Then Apologize

Why the hell do you think the north was called "The Free States"? Duh?

See folks this is the problem with education in America these days, teachers aren't teaching history properly and we get people like Andrew155 believing some BS they read on a blog somewhere.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4221 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 2:10:38 PM
To be sure, there's no good way to look back on beliefs and values of the time and try to apply current beliefs and values. That really skews things--a lot. He was what he was. The Civil War wasn't even fought over slavery. All of it's all sort of been wrapped up for mass consumption, right? So, if the handy but very glossed over packaging isn't for you, dig into history via the many excellent books and non-fiction films of the period. It was a time of horrible and amazing death and destruction. And I wonder if Lincoln isn't as much a victim of his time as he was the architect of it.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 1:46:07 PM
Crakrjak - bull$hit. Straight up bull$hit.The Emancipation Proclamation did not free all slaves, only the slaves in the territories that were occupied by the enemy at the time of it being issued. The North still had slave states! Fact! It had been eliminated in most of them, but it still had slave states - Delaware, Maryland, West Virginia, Kentucky, Missouri! And slavery was still legal even in territory that cover present day Nevada. Come on now, don't make $hit up.

Areas were the Emancipation Proclamation did not apply:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Emancipation_Proclamation.PNG


The Emancipation Proclamation didn't even apply to Tennessee. Or the New Orleans Area. Or much of coastal Virginia.

Consider yourself warned.

Bremir
Male, 18-29, Europe
 393 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 1:32:07 PM
maddux32 - Sorry, but I can't take you seriously when you say "no" instead of "know".

So the next time you want to claim that nobody "knows ****", spell the damn word right.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10042 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 1:31:53 PM
It looks really good, even if it is directed by Steven Hackberg.

$50 says they don't mention that Lincoln was a Republican, and the Democrats were pro slavery.

maddux32
Male, 30-39, Western US
 900 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 12:48:24 PM
I just want to say that none of you no s*** about what you're talking about, nobody gives a s*** about your knowledge of 1860's republicanism, and the differences therein, or that you could take very general knowledge about the mythological exploits of the most popular president in American history and use it as your basis for looking down on others who didn't read that one book on Lincoln's debates with Frederick Douglass.

Just shut up, and watch the f**king move.

Rodin
Male, 30-39, Canada
 593 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 12:29:47 PM
Is there going to be a scene of him making love to his gay lover?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16941 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 12:24:00 PM
Andrew155: What you don't understand is that before the war Lincoln persuaded the states to accept 'compensated emancipation', the southern states rejected it. The Northwest Ordinance of 1787, the Congress of the Confederation prohibited slavery in the territories northwest of the Ohio River. By 1804 most northern states had laws that emancipated the slaves.

That is why the emancipation proclamation was directed toward the south, because the north was already 'free'.

Please do a little more historical research before you put your foot in your mouth again.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 9:44:23 AM
ggolbez, if Lincoln were alive today, he'd probably be a Republican of the 1860's, not a Republican or Democrat of 2012. Modern party platforms bear minimal similarity to those of the 1800's. For heaven' sake, both parties back then would have been more religious than the religious wing of the Republican party back then.

I'm not sure why Democrats would want to claim the guy who suspended Habeas Corpus anyways. Lincoln had the original Patriot Act. In that case, he may have a great deal in common with George Bush even.


studioso
Male, 18-29, Canada
 58 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 9:27:01 AM
not as good as vampire slayer

ggolbez
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1945 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 9:20:08 AM
@AvatarJohn - You are completely wrong. Yes, he had the name 'Republican' but in the 1900's the Democrats took on Republican virtues and Republicans became Democrats. It's confusing I know, but if Lincoln was alive today he would have been a Democrat.

Democrats at Lincoln's time wanted very little Federal government. They primarily were in the south, and emphasized states rights and individual rights from government. (IE Slavery and leaving the Union).

Republican's of Lincoln's time was the idea that the Federal government has the right to rule over all and focused on their power to protect and serve the people.

It's the absolute OPPOSITE of what it is today, and your statement shows your ignorance of this.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 8:51:46 AM
CrakrJak, that quote seems to imply that blacks shouldn't be enslaved, they shouldn't be denied "everything". During his debates with Douglass, Lincoln tended to be anti-slavery in Northern Illinois and less critical in Southern Illinois (culturally like Kentucky).

But really, I don't think he went from thinking Black people were subhumans to thinking they were just like everyone else in a very short period of time. At the time, it was common to be think blacks were subhumans who still shouldn't be enslaved.

And moreover, he didn't free all of the slaves, only the ones in the Confederacy. He had a strong desire to punish them and put them in their place. Slavery was still fine in Delaware, Maryland, West Virginia, Kentucky, and Missouri until his succeeders would correct that.

Abraham Lincoln has been mythologized.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3398 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 8:47:57 AM
'Lincoln's opinion on slavery changed later on and that fact is pretty clear to most people.'

So his position on a moral issue, "evolved"?

AvatarJohn
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 995 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 8:42:09 AM
Definitely your modern day Republican! Never been prouder to be on the side of freedom and liberty and against the tyranny of the statists!

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16941 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 8:29:21 AM
Andrew155: That quote was taken from the Lincoln Douglas debates in Illinois when Lincoln and Douglas were running against each other for a seat in the senate.

Lincoln's opinion on slavery changed later on and that fact is pretty clear to most people.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 8:22:16 AM
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything."

- Abraham Lincoln

Mikeoxsbiggg
Male, 30-39, Canada
 1190 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 8:16:10 AM
Now just think of what the founding fathers would think about America today.

dm2754
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3122 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 8:05:30 AM
when you think about it Lincoln was just like a stalker boyfriend. "if you leave me I'll kill you" and that how the war started.
then he decided that black sould only have 1/6 the rights of whites. and Indians where still animals.
it was a good thing that someone put an end to hes' tyranty "Sic semper tyrannis"
drat that non-nice individual

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16941 Posts
Friday, September 14, 2012 8:02:22 AM
mervviscious: Most, not all, 'modern day' republicans are willing to fight for what is morally right, even if it's unpopular at the time. That sounds exactly like Lincoln to me.

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