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Growth Of Walmart In America [Pic]

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OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14515 Posts
Sunday, September 02, 2012 10:50:08 PM
Wake up! It's all tied together. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.

nic, that's just bull$#!+ liberal propaganda. The fact is, so-called poor people today live much better than the middle class did 100 years ago. They have cars, televisions, cable, computers, high-speed Internet, washers and dryers, microwave ovens, cell phones, and a large portion of them are FAT! Their standard of living has increased and continues to increase, or at least it did up until the Democrats took over congress in 2007. In case you didn't notice, THAT'S when the economy turned to $#!+.

I'll bet you even buy into the old liberal canard that you can create jobs by raising taxes on employers. No one had ever been able to explain that to me. Maybe you can.

nicodemus
Male, 40-49, Canada
 81 Posts
Saturday, September 01, 2012 6:05:22 AM
I love it when it's said people work at lowing paying jobs with no benefits "voluntarily". It's like saying "I think I'll volunteer to eat today."

Also, the old argument that all the "bad" jobs are taken up by "other" people, like the Chinese...Walmart is the number one employer in the US. That's a fact. Not too long ago it was the automotive industry. It's also a fact that more people in North America are struggling from pay cheque to pay cheque and are more in debt than ever before.

Wake up! It's all tied together. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.

P.S. As for the jobs in China being difficult and dirty, so was working in an auto plant. But back in the day you were paid a living wage to build cars right here in North America. How many would trade that job to work in a Walmart?

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14515 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 11:04:13 PM
nicodemus, Wal-mart employees are paid the market rate, i.e., there are plenty of people who are freely willing to work for what they offer. If they paid less, they couldn't staff their stores, and if they paid more, they would be in breach of their fiduciary responsibility to their stockholders.

Who benefits? Well, the employees, of course, who are there voluntarily, plus tens of millions of customers who enjoy a MUCH higher standard of living because they can buy more and better stuff for their money. That includes food, clothing, shoes, electronics, toys, pet supplies, housewares, hardware, paint, automotive, lawn and garden, personal care, eyeglasses, and pharmacy.

And if you're pining about jobs being lost to China, it's probably because you never had to work in a shoe or garment factory. Trust me, that work was brutal, and it paid less than working at Wal-mart. We're all better off to let the Chinese do that.

nicodemus
Male, 40-49, Canada
 81 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 4:04:39 PM
AvatarJohn: is Walmart really a success? And by that I mean, is it really good for North America? I'll only raise two points, but could list many more: how much do employees make per hour, do they have any benefits; and where is over 90% of the merchandise being sold made? So who really benefits from a successful Walmart conglomerate?

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12401 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 8:25:53 AM
Cancer

Vimto
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2593 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 7:00:24 AM
"Everyone likes to say how much they hate Wal-Mart, but just try to find a parking space on Saturday morning."

That may be because walmart built over all the car parks.

AvatarJohn
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 1006 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 6:33:13 AM
This is exactly what they were talking about at the RNC. Do we celebrate a successful American company or do we denigrate success? We've seen the results of the latter over the last 4 years. Do we really want more of that or is it time to get back to being proud of success and bringing this country back from the brink?

Personally, I'm done with the faded, backwards, tired old thinking of the Obama regime.

chickiesue86
Male, 70 & Over, Canada
 273 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:53:30 PM
that's it, i am going to nevada.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14515 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:43:28 PM
Maybe we should outlaw backhoes. Think of all the pic-and-shovel ditch diggers who were put out of work by those things.

Wal-mart haters are this century's Luddites.

AWESOMEBOT
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 61 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:46:30 PM
I spent 2 years replacing SAP servers in Wal*mart stores. I would have to say (sadly) I am the only person I have met who has been in every Wal*mart Super Center in America. What a sad life I lead.

SCfan
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 1924 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:06:38 PM
Everyone likes to say how much they hate Wal-Mart, but just try to find a parking space on Saturday morning.

uatme
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1024 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:05:45 PM
they should do this for Tim Hortons in Canada

ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11341 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 4:00:18 PM
Just the strategy of success, every corporate company does it. I work for Tyco, they run the same, build it up and spread, buy out competitors, etc.. goes on.. its the basics of making money, times move on, you cant sit on your laurels anymore.

DuckBoy87
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2685 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:00:15 PM
Oh, and OldOllie, they wanted to buy them out because they can't compete with them, thus can't run them out of business.

TKD_Master
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 4827 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:57:51 PM
And that isn't even all of them.

DuckBoy87
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2685 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:57:21 PM
That's a fair assessment, HolyGod, about the grocery stores; however, the local hardware shop has also managed to stay in business despite there being a WalMart, Home Depot, Lowes, and Sears being in the neighboring area, not 15 minutes away.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5028 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:13:45 PM
MeGrendel

I haven't disgreed with a single thing you've said in this thread (outside of me not working hard). I doubt you've disagreed with anything I've said. You've just made assumptions on my stance because of previous debates we've engaged in so you've added context to my original statement to align it with those presumptions.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5028 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:11:21 PM
nettech98

"Really? NOTHING?"

OK. I was being hyperbolic, fine. Less than 15% of products are. If you take away groceries it is probably under 5%, but I'm only guessing at that.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:10:11 PM
"Strange", thought the scientists who were hastily searching what they could of the remaining Internet, "This is the exact pattern that the zombie outbreak took that caused this apocalypse we're in. And look at this, there's a comment saying exactly what we're saying right now!"

nettech98
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 990 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:01:42 PM
"Since nothing they sell is made in America all of those jobs are now gone."

Really? NOTHING? That's a pretty bold statement. Care to back it up?

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4668 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:59:05 PM
HolyGod-"it makes a huge change to the local economy."

The only constant is Change. The opposite of Change is not stagnation, but Change in the opposite direction.

Of course it's a more global economy. We've been working toward that since the Og, Ook and Charlie of the 'Mountain Clan' of caveman found they could trade food for a better arrow from the 'Valley Clan', allowing them to kill MORE food. (Call it Arrow®, v1.2)

The horse and wagon turned towns into cities & countries.

The Steamboat made commerce between cities viable.

The Train made Steamboats Obsolete.

The highways and automobile made Train Travel pretty rare, and spelled the end of the farrier and the crap-shoveller.

Why aren't you supporting the farrier and the crap-shoveller?

It all started with the horse, and that is why your train-tracks are still two-horses-asses wide.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5028 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:54:58 PM
DromEd

"So stop your bitching "

I'm confused. I'm not complaining. I have no problem with walmart. I've said that several times in this thread. I'm just talking about the macroeconomics of what they do. Sorry if my disagreeing with your original comment offended you, but I simply think it is false. Walmart, among others is changing the entire world economy. To dismiss it as simply another choice among several is narrow minded.

DromEd
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1582 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:51:39 PM
*smacks forehead*

Guess what MoldyDog, times change. It's up to us as a country to keep up. You can't live in a bottle in a single moment in time. So stop your bitching and savor your success and if you feel the need find somebody in your neck of the woods who has been a victim of the big box store success story and give 'em a job.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5028 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:49:40 PM
DromEd

"Me, I shop at Target a lot. Prices are about the same and the store is just nicer. However I do roll through Sam's Club for bulk items so the evil empire gets some of my dough. They just get less of it than a mom and pop store selling the same amount. Hummm?"

I said small towns. I'm not talking about larger towns that have Walmarts and Targets and Best Buys and Home Depots. I'm talking about towns where every shop had the owner behind the counter until a walmart moved in. I watched it first hand in the town I grew up in. Those towns still exist.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5028 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:47:05 PM
MeGrendel

"I can also buy a lawn mower from Wal Mart, John Deere, Lowe's or Home Depot. Seems like I have a choice."

I put Lowe's, Home Depot, and any other big box stores in the same category. It is national retailers that can buy in tremendous volume at huge discounts. I'm not singling walmart out.

Additionally, once again, I'm not saying what they do is wrong or bad, just that it makes a huge change to the local economy. I shop at walmart occasionally.

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