 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 8751 Posts
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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:37:55 AM
Seperate sports and college nationwide...
Right on! Let the NFL and the NBA run their OWN damned farm systems just like MLB. |
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 Draculya
Male, 30-39, Asia
6354 Posts
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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:32:07 AM
Good riddance to them |
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10257 Posts
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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:12:01 AM
Seperate sports and college nationwide it has nothing to do with education and the players get coddled it's a joke! |
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OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8751 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 11:05:29 PM
Sandusky is in prison, and Paterno is dead, so who are they punishing? I think the Penn. St. players and students should file a $HUGE class-action lawsuit against the NCAA. |
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 BlankTom
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
6533 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 9:12:57 PM
"Let's see, all of the people who were actually guilty of something (except Sandusky himself) get away Scott free and the student and athletes are punished and fined?"
Not true. They NCAA Also gave paterno cancer. |
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 Thonious
Male, 40-49, Western US
574 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 6:55:37 PM
Since the NCAA has the power to change the past, couldn't they just make it so the molestations never happened? |
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 xiquiripat
Male, 18-29, Western US
2419 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 5:51:14 PM
Only a half-measure. It was the power of the Football institution at Penn State that created the cover-up in the first place. As long as it survives it's rot will once again corrode the University. All the fine does is hurt students who actually went there to get an education which, ostensibly, is the entire purpose of a University in the first place. |
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 Shelworth
Male, 50-59, Western US
212 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 3:48:32 PM
Let's see, all of the people who were actually guilty of something (except Sandusky himself) get away Scott free and the student and athletes are punished and fined? Sounds about right to me. |
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 EmagehtmaI
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
154 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 3:41:14 PM
Prussia's right. Sports programs have too much power. They get away with too much. Maybe this will bring other schools into line. Then again, maybe not. Either way, it's gonna be funny to watch Penn State fans squirm. |
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 Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
1514 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 2:50:38 PM
Close the goddamn school. |
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 auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8696 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 12:27:17 PM
Their football program is dead. This is worse than the death penalty.
Good riddance. |
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ZapTheSheep
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
20 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 11:31:39 AM
To put it in perspective, the NCAA fined them $60-million. Penn State's revenue based solely on its football program last year was $64-million. The fine is actually broken into 5 installments of $12-million per year for the next five years. |
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 honkeylips
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
1392 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 11:14:55 AM
@LordJim unfortunately in the bigger schools with bigger athletic programs this is usually the case. The students are a means to generating revenue. Smaller schools are usually populated by students that play sports. I played American football in college and I was a double major, and most of the guys on my team were serious students. |
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 FoolsPrussia
Male, 18-29, Western US
2874 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 11:05:03 AM
I'm of the opinion that sports programs are generally given too much power at universities, and that's why this situation was allowed to fester for so long at Penn State. But it really comes down to money, and the football program brings a lot of income in. |
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 sutra46
Female, 40-49, Asia
2010 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 10:12:16 AM
The past profits come under 'ill gotten gains'
The football programme supports beyond the campus, the local economy for e g.
It makes sense though I wonder if some in the decision making are using this to serve their own agenda.
This will go to courts in the end. |
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maxxim
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
125 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 10:07:18 AM
Jim, yes you impressions of American collegiate sports is correct. Many athletes are brought in on full scholarships for their athleticism, and academics is considered secondary, or disregarded entirely. |
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LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
2418 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 9:56:32 AM
All I know about American college sports is from TV shows so I'd like to ask to what extent are the student players actually students in the sense that they are at university for educational reasons rather than as football players registered as students to generate income?
Does that make sense? There is nothing analagous to this in the UK. Here you apply to university and get accepted or not on your academic record. If you also enjoy sports there are facilities but your ability at sport is something for you and your famiy & friends to celebrate. It's a peripheral aspect.
Also, how can you take away previous wins? If they won, they won, unless cheating can be proved. |
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Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1073 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 9:53:26 AM
Kill the football program. It was the near religion status that football had on the campus - by the administration and even the students - that gave these guys all of the power they had. |
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McDuff73
Male, 30-39, Europe
368 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 9:46:39 AM
arent they punishing students by these actions instead of the actual offenders? |
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 inversegrav
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
711 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 9:33:00 AM
I dont see how this is realy a punishment. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25685 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 9:20:28 AM
Stupid.
Fining the school 60mil raised tuition on students who weren't at the school when it all happened.
Just kill their football program...or let the courts handle it. Why punish the players who did nothing? |
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 insane_ai
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
668 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 9:11:53 AM
Tuition rate and game ticket price increases to come next..... |
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 fancylad
Male, 30-39, Western US
2512 Posts
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Monday, July 23, 2012 9:00:13 AM
Link: Penn State Punished By NCAA Over Sandusky Scandal [Rate Link] - Penn is fined $60 mil, a post-season ban & game wins are taken away from 1998 - 2011. JoePa no longer most-winning coach |
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