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The PAL-V Flying Car: It's Maiden Flight

Hits: 10906 | Rating: (2.7) | Category: Travel | Added by: piperfawn
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Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1897 Posts
Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:21:06 PM

Male, 18-29, Europe
 592 Posts
Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:22:19 AM
would be awesome if they where for general retail :D

Male, 40-49, Europe
 2833 Posts
Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:36:17 AM
Bottom line - you've seen the dicks that drive BMWs and Audis - would you let them loose in a helicopter?

Male, 18-29, Western US
 1051 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:45:01 PM
great thing for fly bys. bet the mexican drug cartel would invest on that ;)

Male, 30-39, Europe
 5 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:57:31 PM
As a car it'll make a great Gyro, as a gyro, it'll make a great car. Make something to do two things, it'll be mediocre at both.

Male, 18-29, Europe
 182 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:12:30 PM
go and learn what makes gyrocopters "good", its not a new concept but better than any competitors ive seen

Male, 30-39, Western US
 1505 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:43:24 PM
So many haters here (probably from people who've never created anything useful in their lives, and never will). This design is great, and an incredible feat.

Male, 30-39, Europe
 649 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:44:49 AM
Yeah, well, good luck finding investors for THAT.

Male, 18-29, Europe
 690 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:46:46 AM
yes...thats what we all need...some drunk redneck flying over our heads >< no thank you

Male, 30-39, Europe
 116 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:10:24 AM
Flying Car? No.

Drivable Gyro? Maybe.

Show me 1 car that looks like that...

Anyways, this inconvenient unpractical device doesnt really correspond to by back-to-the-future type boyhood fantasies. At all. Maybe it can have some obscure industrial or military use in sparesely populated flatlands. Mongolia or something. Looks kinda cool inits own way, but doesnt look like much fun to drive it.

Male, 40-49, Asia
 13916 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:36:43 AM
If you're serious about this, you're better off with a R22 and find a way to stow a folding motorbike. Then you can put down in a small field. Gyros T/O, fly and land more like fixed wing aircraft. VTOL is not just about convenience, it's about finding somewhere to autorotate to in an emergency in urban areas.

Male, 40-49, Western US
 3215 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:34:12 AM
want to see the real flying car look up
skycar m400

Male, 40-49, Asia
 13916 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:32:24 AM
@LordJim no you wouldn't need a dedicated crew. Take it to any certified aviation mechanic. Then pay through the nose.

No you wouldn't need an airfield. It should have soft field take off capability. You would need to recce the landing field for even ground, sufficient length and take off height clearance, plus check noise abatement regs and airspace. But you can't T/O and land from roads, certainly not in most places.

Male, 40-49, Southern US
 2133 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:29:07 AM
Should be "Its maiden flight," not "it's maiden flight." No apostrophe.

Male, 60-69, Europe
 5675 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:11:20 AM
Wouldn't you need a full time maintenance crew? And wouldn't most urban areas ban them from airspace because of the risk of plummeting whirling rotors on Main Street?

Also, wouldn't you need to get to a designated take-off/landing areas which would probably miles from your destination. Why not just get a helicopter and hire a car at the far end?

A nice exercise and no doubt a lot of technical problems were tackled, but not commercially viable.

Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 151 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:44:07 AM
I remember watching a black and white "in the future" commercial of a woman going to the grocery in the family gyrocopter; obviously from the 50's. It isn't practical and anyone that invests in this company would be better off "investing" at a blackjack table; it has better odds.

Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 621 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:53:22 AM
How's the side impact test from an SUV. Seriously, we already have people running into each other on the ground. And now they're gonna be dropping from the sky?....Great.

Male, 18-29, Europe
 226 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:50:56 AM
@Draculya u go in so much trouble for nothing. they will not put this thing in any kind of production because ppl will get killed and kill 100 more with them, just because ppl are stupid. to my eyes it is a very good excersise of mechanics and i really like it!

Male, 30-39, Southern US
 2513 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:41:32 AM
What Wallodude said...

Male, 30-39, Europe
 357 Posts
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:32:59 AM
That not a flying car, it's a helicopter that, uselessly, can be driven on the road....

Male, 30-39, Australia
 25262 Posts
Monday, April 02, 2012 11:37:59 PM
Im thinking April Fools.....

Male, 40-49, Asia
 13916 Posts
Monday, April 02, 2012 10:21:19 PM
PS god (lol) forbid the wind is blowing in the wrong direction, then your trip is going to be really long.

Few gyros are much faster than 100kts. A gyro of this configuration will probably only do 45 kts. There is a real risk of negative groundspeed, which is really bad.

Male, 40-49, Asia
 13916 Posts
Monday, April 02, 2012 10:14:02 PM
Let's say your commute takes 90 mins and average speed is 30mph. 45 miles. Your light/UL aircraft can do 80 kts and can fly the trip in 30 mins, but you need to add a minimum of 45 mins for preflight including weather briefing, flight plan, fueling, sign out, check. 15 mins to taxi out, control check, run up and get PTO. Add 10 mins for entering and flying the pattern, landing and taxi then 10 mins to secure the a/c (or convert it to a car). This is bare minimum at a private strip, not a commercial airport. That's 2 hours already, not counting the time it takes you to get to and from the airstrip.

BTW, a R22 can run about $300 per hour, mostly due to insurance and maintenance, calculated on engine hours which determines the maintenance cycle. If you ran the motor to commute to the shops or airstrip, you'd pay that cost even driving on the ground.

Male, 40-49, Asia
 13916 Posts
Monday, April 02, 2012 10:03:48 PM
"I think the "closed cabin" makes it a car, not a motorcycle."

Not according to the UK's DVLA. 3 wheels means you can drive it on either a bike or car license.

I hold various pilot's licenses and ratings and I don't think ultralights are the way forward for alleviating traffic congestion.

Noise abatement.
Need for an approved landing strip in an urban area.
Low density of aircraft in a given airspace.
Legal risk of compliance; likelihood of incursion.
Troublesome travel from airstrip to destination.
Properties that make for a practical car do not make for a practical aircraft.
Limited range.
High cost of aircraft, insurance, certification and maintenance.

Male, 30-39, Western US
 74 Posts
Monday, April 02, 2012 10:02:49 PM
Flying cars have been around since the 1930s. It's never been a matter of technology, but of practicality.

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