 dielaughing
Female, 13-17, Western US
 130 Posts
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Sunday, May 22, 2011 1:35:47 AM
This is really terrifying but what do we do about it? How do we stop it? |
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 deputy
Male, 40-49, Europe
203 Posts
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Friday, May 20, 2011 2:08:20 PM
At this moment in my country, 2 phone providers publicly said they use Deep packet inspection to analyze data traffic. This is worrying me since that method also allows for more than just analyzing the sort of data, but also the contents. I don't want a private company to have easy access to the porn I send to other people. |
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 RETARDEDBEAR
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
440 Posts
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Friday, May 20, 2011 12:09:28 PM
This is a thinly veiled attempt to break the ice on government involvement in the internet. It has nothing to do with equality, it has everything to do with control.
How many of you have had problems with your ISP blocking content? Liberals are suggesting a fix to a problem that doesn't even exist, taking the situation way out of context in an attempt to scare people into allowing the government to impose regulations on the internet... and you can bet the government can't wait to get its grubby fingers on the net, now that it knows how much influence it has. |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Friday, May 20, 2011 11:34:12 AM
LazyMe: That is why there are anti-trust laws. At&t was broken up many years ago in order to foster competition, but they've re-consolidated again somewhat. |
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 LazyMe484
Male, 18-29, Canada
10503 Posts
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Friday, May 20, 2011 9:06:36 AM
... Of course even that is not necessary so long there are enough ISPs and people have the choice to go with one with consistent speeds.
Except that there are too few ISPs, and they're all massive and half way monopolized.
So... government intervention where the market fails! |
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LazyMe484
Male, 18-29, Canada
10503 Posts
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Friday, May 20, 2011 9:01:13 AM
If you are in favor of NET NEUTRALITY, you are in favor of GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED and REGULATED INTERNET.
Yep. If that's what it takes to keep download speeds consistent, then that's what will happen.
What? The government puts laws in place for ISPs to keep access speeds equal in order to maintain equality between websites. How is that bad? |
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 venice08
Male, 18-29, Europe
109 Posts
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Friday, May 20, 2011 1:25:46 AM
I'd listen but that guy has a funny accent so I don't care |
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 bullswool
Male, 30-39, Australia
47 Posts
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Friday, May 20, 2011 1:06:03 AM
I do love this show |
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 ShadowDD13
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
261 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:43:00 PM
drat the caps, at&t, and the regulation of data that those companies dont own, they only transport the data, they have no right to control where it goes, we already payed for the service, they need to upgrade if they are struggling, which they arnt, its just them trying to convince end-users like you all that there is some sort of bandwidth shortage, its not real, they just need to update the systems their too cheap to... billions to buy out t-mobile but they are too poor to update? drating bullpoo |
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 HumboldtPie
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
310 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 8:58:57 PM
I feel like a lot of people aren't getting exactly what this was all about. This is not 100% about taking one's rights away by blocking certain cites but not others (although there are instances of that happening), it's mainly about companies trying to get an edge over eachother by paying for better service as well as docking the speed of things that are viewed as negatives (illegal downloading).
I for one have done a bunch of illegal downloading and don't advocate for P2P band-width reduction but I completely understand why this tilt is justified, and why certain massive corporations would want in on some faster services. |
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 OutWest
Male, 50-59, Western US
548 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:28:28 PM
Leave the net open, free, and without regulation! True freedom is net neutral. If you don't want to read it, view it, or hear it, then go to a site you like.
This is just a clever way of controlling what we view, or say.
Probably the idea of a liberal lawyer? (Politician).
I am sure they want the net as neutral as the MSM? |
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 auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8666 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:06:50 PM
No fizok. Apparently YOU don't. |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:39:18 PM
fiizok: The term 'Net Neutrality' is a misnomer for what it actually is, Government Controlled And Regulated Internet, Just like China and North Korea.
Liberals love to hide their ugly crap wrapped inside a nice sounding name, It's par for the course. |
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 kula35
Male, 18-29, Canada
160 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:55:59 PM
Those bastards, slowing down my illegal file sharing... |
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 fiizok
Male, 40-49, Western US
590 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 3:48:33 PM
Oh dear...auburnjunky has no clue what the phrase "Net Neutrality" actually means. |
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 Syris
Male, 13-17, Western US
226 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 3:47:57 PM
The internet is the last form of 100% freedom available to anyone, as soon as this is gone, who knows what will happen. |
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 slayer50515
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
990 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 3:45:20 PM
Solving the net neutrality debate:
Pay for you usage of internet, instead of its speed. (or with it's speed factored in)
PROBLEM F**KING SOLVED. |
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 Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
23995 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:52:55 PM
Dont think its gonna happen |
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auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8666 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:09:07 PM
Okay guys. Let's make this clear.
If you are in favor of NET NEUTRALITY, you are in favor of GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED and REGULATED INTERNET. The liberals who introduced it called it Net Neutrality to make it sound like something nice and pretty, when it is in fact a very ugly thing. |
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 LuckyDave
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
628 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:11:25 PM
@emmettyville
Its never been looked at as unlimited gigs in America, its just looked at as unlimited access. In the US its treated a lot like cable TV, you pay to use it but you don't have to pay extra because you watch it 8 hours a day instead of 2.
Correct me if I'm wrong though, but I do believe the problem they are having (according to this) stems from power usage. The more information that is sent, the more power that is used, the more their bill to run them goes up. So (now stay with me here) does part of the problem then not come from the power companies? True, they need to make money too, but where does the problem then lie?
As far as regulation goes, there should be none. The only "regulation" I can see being legit is passing a law protecting net-neutrality, and prosecuting anyone through international law who violates it.
The internet is an innately beautiful thing, allowing people all over the world to communicate. Don't ruin it.
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RETARDEDBEAR
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
440 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:42:13 PM
"I personally am quite liberal and I definitely believe in our rights regarding the freedom of speech and net neutrality."
I believe he is referring to net neutrality when he says liberals want control, which you, as a liberal, just said you support. Net neutrality is asking the government to regulate the internet, where it previously has been unregulated. That amounts to government control seeping into the internet. |
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 HeadiesRusH
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
329 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:16:54 PM
@auburnjunky - "Funny how liberals are the ones who want the control, and Conservatives are the ones who want to keep the internet free and speedy."
Who do you think you are? That claim is completely unfounded. I personally am quite liberal and I definitely believe in our rights regarding the freedom of speech and net neutrality. Stop making lousy comments that are completely untrue and simply ignorant. You're only making yourself look like a fool. |
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 emmettyville
Female, 30-39, Australia
2710 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:08:53 PM
you get unlimited gigs?
you lucky bastards!
Net neutrality must not be lost....or the internet will be pointless. |
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RETARDEDBEAR
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
440 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:53:38 AM
Trying to get the government to solve a problem that doesn't actually exist, but hypothetically 'could' exist... gee I haven't heard that one before. |
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10187 Posts
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Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:19:07 AM
Sound like an excuse to try to take more money from us. If they try to charge by usage in the USA they're opening a can of worms we've already gotten used unlimited usage isn't that what we're charged for to begin with? |
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