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How To Forecast The Weather [Pic]

Hits: 28280 | Rating: (2.8) | Category: Science | Added by: FuggerNugger
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davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12074 Posts
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:39:52 PM
The poles aren't melting down.

Just as a heads-up in case you're still reading this, I'm goin to hold you that. You up for the challenge?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17039 Posts
Monday, May 16, 2011 1:05:16 AM
Davy: What you would've been correct to say is "....corrupt criminals that faked scientific data."

Global Warming is the biggest science fraud of the century.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12074 Posts
Sunday, May 15, 2011 11:05:03 PM
You were skeptical of the May 21, 2011 doom date, but you aren't skeptical of some profiteering hypocritical pseudo-scientists ?

Wow. You really just compared belief in 21/5/11 to the belief (in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence) that our global climate might be affected by 7 billion humans on the planet? And climatologists are pseudo-scientists? Whatever dude, this thread is old. See you on the next one.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17039 Posts
Sunday, May 15, 2011 1:31:33 AM
Davy: "By the time we see who is right, it'll be too late."

The problem with scaremongering is that when your predictions don't happen you have to keep revising them and then eventually you shift focus onto something else to scream, "the sky is falling!" about.

You were skeptical of the May 21, 2011 doom date, but you aren't skeptical of some profiteering hypocritical pseudo-scientists ?

If all the predictions these types screamed about in the 60s and 70s had come true we'd already all be dead by now. I'll cite some from the past: New Ice Age, Overpopulation, Global Thermonuclear War, Run Out Of Oil By The Year 2000, Ozone Hole Growing, Smog, Acid Rain, Global Flooding, and many more that have not came true.

If mankind ever does face disaster, it won't be by our own hands, it will come from forces in our own planet.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17039 Posts
Sunday, May 15, 2011 12:58:24 AM
Please note Davy you used the word meteorologist, NOT climatologist. I provided the evidence, now you try to sidestep it.

Climatologists are mainly government sector jobs, Meteorologists are private sector jobs.

If your a climatologist and you can't show the government that there is anything of concern, then your funding (aka paycheck) gets cut. Please tell me who in their right mind would tell their boss that their job isn't necessary ? Answer, Nobody.

Meteorologists, however, are privately paid and the better they do their job, generally, The bigger TV markets will hire them for a larger paycheck.

Also, You've been scare mongered by corrupt people and are perpetuating and spreading the 'chicken little' baloney to others. Our kids will still be able to see polar bears, they are not going extinct. The poles aren't melting down. Hurricanes are not growing in number or severity. If you were a truly objective scientist you would be more skeptical.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17039 Posts
Sunday, May 15, 2011 12:39:30 AM
davymid: Oh Crakrjak. Dear Crakrjak. Please show me a link (in fact, ANYTHING will do) where >50% of professional meteorologists today believe that the planet is currently cooling.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12074 Posts
Saturday, May 14, 2011 11:04:29 PM
Hey, what can I say, I'm a "big-picture" kind of professional scientist. Say, what kind of scientist are you, crakrjak?

You know what, it doesn't matter. I'm resigned to the fact that people like you are the reason that my 5-year-old daughter is going to live in a sh*ttier world than we did. By the time the damage is blantantly obvious to the undeniable point that there's no summer North Pole ice cover anymore, you and I will both be old men, waiting for death. However, she'll never see a polar bear in the wild because there won't be any left, even though she snuggles in to her soft toy polar bear ever night. His name is Tundra, by the way. She can't go to sleep without Tundra.

Whatever. By the time we see who is right, it'll be too late. Easy to tell you don't have children.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12074 Posts
Saturday, May 14, 2011 10:14:37 PM
vv Sorry, Crakrjak, but no, you do not get an apology. The same study that you cited said (quoting your own link here):

"Climatologists, who study weather patterns over time, almost universally endorse the view that the earth is warming and that humans have contributed to climate change. There is less of a consensus among meteorologists, who predict short-term weather patterns."

*TOP TIP: "Over time" is a key phrase*

TV weather forecasters are very different from climatologists. A decent analogy would be geologists vs geomorphologists.

Take the example of the East Africa Rift Valley. Geologists will tell you that the Rift Valley is an incipient ocean, that the eastern part of Africa will drift, over millenia, away from the West Africa Craton. Geomorphologists will tell you that's impossible, as their local lake has recently silted over, thereby creating more land. Simply put, it's macroscopic vs microscopic.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17039 Posts
Saturday, May 14, 2011 6:38:35 AM
Now Davy, Can I please get an apology for the insult about my sanity you threw my way earlier ?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17039 Posts
Saturday, May 14, 2011 6:33:19 AM
Davymid: You asked for it, You got it.

NY Times

"A study released on Monday by researchers at George Mason University and the University of Texas at Austin found that only about half of the 571 television weathercasters surveyed believed that global warming was occurring and fewer than a third believed that climate change was “caused mostly by human activities.”

Demstar_Aus
Female, 18-29, Australia
 172 Posts
Saturday, May 14, 2011 3:26:24 AM
I also really enjoyed studying clouds through school. For local weather (i.e. where the clouds were being observed as the place of forecast) I was 90% accurate 2-4 days in advance. It was quite cool and really very easy once you got the hang of it. Watching and listening to animals really helps too, they're the ones that are outside all the time to it'd pay to follow their advice.

Demstar_Aus
Female, 18-29, Australia
 172 Posts
Saturday, May 14, 2011 3:24:01 AM
From the ages of 6 to 12 years old, I would get a blood nose, every time, without fail, the day before or the day of rain. I was really sensitive to low pressure systems. It used to freak me out because I thought I would die.

AnInsomniac
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 322 Posts
Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:54:21 AM
I don't need this to predict the weather. Thanks to my horrible internet company, I know when bad weather is coming my way by how long it takes a page to load! lol

LionHeart-72
Male, 18-29, Western US
 515 Posts
Saturday, May 14, 2011 12:12:34 AM
@Dedfink
I wouldn't say it's common sense for most places. If the weather is important to your day's activites (being in the country like yourself) then you learn it. I never knew any of this stuff until I learned to fly aircraft. Now I'm constantly looking for signs of weather shifts.

TL;DNR = You've got talent.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12074 Posts
Friday, May 13, 2011 11:08:27 PM
davymid: Meteorologists, even the professional ones that can't reliably predict the weather 4-5 days away, Most of them do not hold to the 'global warming' chicken little theory.

Oh Crakrjak. Dear Crakrjak. Please show me a link (in fact, ANYTHING will do) where >50% of professional meteorologists today believe that the planet is currently cooling. Seriously dude, have you any idea how kooky you sound? As a friend, I'm worried for your sanity, and your basic reasoning abilities. Have you seen a doctor recently?

Dedfink
Female, 18-29, Western US
 244 Posts
Friday, May 13, 2011 10:27:28 PM
I don't lnow if I just grew up country- but isn't most of this common sense?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17039 Posts
Friday, May 13, 2011 7:22:00 PM
davymid: Meteorologists, even the professional ones that can't reliably predict the weather 4-5 days away, Most of them do not hold to the 'global warming' chicken little theory.

Especially after the head of NOAA predicted record numbers of dangerous hurricanes (after Katrina in 2005) and no major hurricane (over category 2) has made landfall in the US since.

DShephard
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1597 Posts
Friday, May 13, 2011 3:34:44 PM
I'm not buying it that my cats would clean their ears before a rain.

Then again, they're inside cats and have never experienced rain, so...

Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
 24543 Posts
Friday, May 13, 2011 11:09:12 AM
IF theres no birds, usually its because of a cyclone or hurricane!

DarkFerret
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2764 Posts
Friday, May 13, 2011 10:56:54 AM
I would rely on this before the weather people

1gr8slice
Male, 40-49, Western US
 365 Posts
Friday, May 13, 2011 9:35:36 AM
@preoSmo - that is why I moved from there to Arizona. Haven't seriously looked or cared about a weather forecast in 6 years. Here is how it breaks down for me now:
October - May: Perfect
June - September: A little warm ;)
That's about it.

venice08
Male, 18-29, Europe
 109 Posts
Friday, May 13, 2011 5:42:13 AM
I just figure it's gonna be partly cloudy. I'm right about 624% of the time. But then again I'm unique, my mom said so.

Frankii
Female, 18-29, Europe
 439 Posts
Friday, May 13, 2011 2:57:15 AM
I once went to school in a summer dress on a lovely spring day, by the time I got picked up that night it had snowed. It snowed in July here once as well, what fun XD

ruthless1990
Female, 18-29, Europe
 3016 Posts
Friday, May 13, 2011 2:46:19 AM
where i live in the North of England, if you have no idea what the weather is supposed to be like, suspect rain.
only suspect warm weather when exams are due, and suspect snow when you have something important to attend to in the colder months that is not walking distance away.
expect the weather people on TV to tell you that its gonna be a BBQ summer, and expect them to be incorrect.


bitter? me?

Student_Law
Male, 30-39, Europe
 966 Posts
Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:30:01 PM
If a guy dressed in red is falling down your chimney, it will be pretty cold for the next couple months.

If you get a paper in the mail from the government, demanding you fill inn all the debt and earnings you've had the recent year, it will be pretty warm for the next few months.

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