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 elphienotfae
Female, 13-17, Midwest US
 56 Posts
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Monday, November 16, 2009 6:29:49 PM
I couldn't care less about the bible! It only says being GAY is bad. not lesbian. So HA! Sorry guys, but you're on your own. |
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 Skreshavik
Male, 18-29, Western US
272 Posts
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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:46:36 PM
I've noticed that all the sources except one had "American" in it...foreshadowing of America's future!? <---sneaky fatherless child he is!
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 REBELComx
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
441 Posts
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Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:22:31 PM
Angilion... about the Gospels.. There were supposedly 12 apostles, but none of them actually wrote a gospel. At least not one that made it into the Bible. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were not written by apostles, but by 3rd party authors who only heard stories from other apostles. Mark and Luke aren't even the names of ANY of the apostles listed in any gospels (which can't even agree on the apostles' names in the first place). All the earliest copies we have of any of the gospels were written at least 7 - 100 years after the Apostles they are attributed to died. |
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 BigWaFuu
Male, 18-29, Western US
843 Posts
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Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:15:38 PM
I wasn't seriously arguing at all, actually. Just making a gay joke. Get it? Aaaah, good fun. |
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 Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
1443 Posts
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Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:55:17 AM
Whoever was reading my post to you didn't get to the end. I'll repeat it for them to read to you:It amuses me how many people are arguing that homosexuality is so appealing to everyone that if it wasn't suppressed then the number of people having heterosex would be too small to stop humanity fading away through lack of children.
Now...are you seriously arguing that everyone would be gay if they weren't coerced into being straight? |
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BigWaFuu
Male, 18-29, Western US
843 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:43:32 PM
You appear to be making the "homosexuality will cause humanity to die out!" argument, which is the same rubbish it always was.Its not rubbish. if everyone in the world was gay then there would be nothing there to populate more penises for you to su-... uh nvmnd. |
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 Jebb
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
2 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:12:59 PM
Actually, evolution isn't the process of making things "better", it's a random selection of genes partially based on the environment. Things evolve one way or another, but they don't necessarily get "better". |
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 Dfaulted
Male, 13-17, Canada
1611 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:42:21 PM
If you believe in Darwinism, then you should disagree with homosexuality, cause that will go against the fact that in evolution, we evolve to become better, and try to find any mention to continue our population. Contradictions from anyone?So you're stating that being gay means you are a worse person? That evolution worked backwards? |
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 wjones1119
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
12 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:47:58 PM
I was intrigued... and then laughed to HELL and back at the last fifteen seconds. I go to Furman University in Greenville, SC, and seeing that about Bob Jones made me laugh so. Hard. Hahahahahaha |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
1443 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:21:40 PM
and i agree with you, trello. i believed that the bible had things missing/mistranslated way before the da vinci code came out. it is several books. people may very well have left some books out
It's dozens of books and we know as an absolute certainty that people left many books out *because the people who did so wrote down that they did*. First Council of Nicea, 325. The OT is much older and there aren't any records of its creation, so we can't be sure about that. Then there's simple deduction. For example: There are 4 gospels in the NT. There were 13 apostles, so the other 9 gospels must have been left out. (13, because I'm counting Mary). |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
1443 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:17:26 PM
If you believe in Darwinism, then you should disagree with homosexuality, cause that will go against the fact that in evolution, we evolve to become better, and try to find any mention to continue our population. Contradictions from anyone?
My main one is the word 'Darwinism', which you wrongly use as (a) a faith and (b) synonymous with 'evolution'. You appear to be making the "homosexuality will cause humanity to die out!" argument, which is the same rubbish it always was. It amuses me how many people are arguing that homosexuality is so appealing to everyone that if it wasn't suppressed then the number of people having heterosex would be too small to stop humanity fading away through lack of children. |
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 Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
1101 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:45:47 AM
I like boobs to much to be gay! |
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 PsychGeek
Female, 18-29, Southern US
314 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:38:33 AM
Pink---books were left out, e.g. the book of Sophia.of course, part of that was because it was extremely convoluted and hard for the average person to understand--but it was also because the leaders of that time didn't want an entire book dedicated to a strong, female figure. |
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 xxPinkxx
Female, 18-29, Canada
1210 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:28:25 AM
this forum is nuts. but i expected it.i think being gay is something your born with, the only ones who really choose, in the sense, are bisexuals. and i agree with you, trello. i believed that the bible had things missing/mistranslated way before the da vinci code came out. it is several books. people may very well have left some books out |
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PsychGeek
Female, 18-29, Southern US
314 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:16:54 AM
JaLacaob:it's interesting, I've heard that about lesbian/gay male brains before, that they're "hardwired" similar to the opposite sex...did you know that lesbians, when they're ovulating, can pick out the faces of women in a crowd more easily than they can men? this is opposite of straight women, obviously, who are better able to pick out the faces of men when they're ovulating. I think we have made a point that homosexuality is definitely not a "choice" :) |
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 JaLacaob
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
1280 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:12:06 AM
Point made, PsychGeek. Didn't mean to imply Darwin coined it. :P |
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PsychGeek
Female, 18-29, Southern US
314 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:01:28 AM
actually akabane, I disagree with you completely.Darwin NEVER stated that evolution has a direction. We do not become better or worse, we only adapt to our surroundings. To "evolve" does NOT mean to get better, it simply means to "change". That said, it should be noted that Darwin also did NOT coin the term "survival of the fittest", that was Herbert Spencer. |
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JaLacaob
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
1280 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:46:53 AM
akabane: Darwinism begins to lose effect when humans make a different 'survival of the fittest'. Many people are now obese, not because they're better fit to survive in the natural world, but because they are now formed by society's effect on 'natural evolution'. Perhaps homosexuality is partially also a result of extreme overpopulation. There's breeds of frogs that will not just be gay, but CHANGE SEX to accommodate underpopulation of one of the sexes. Homosexuality is not a very far stretch in that light. There are MRI scans of brain activity that show a gay female's brain is stimulated sexually by the same thing that a straight male's brain is. Really, what's the big deal? These people don't hurt anyone. |
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 akabane
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
339 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:40:37 AM
If you believe in Darwinism, then you should disagree with homosexuality, cause that will go against the fact that in evolution, we evolve to become better, and try to find any mention to continue our population. Contradictions from anyone? |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
1443 Posts
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:01:17 AM
It is Jesus confirming that God made man & woman - and then going ON to say that for this reason a MAN shall leave his father and mother and join with his WIFE (not "significant other").
That's the flimsiest scriptural reason for opposing homosexuality that I've ever heard. *If* (and it's a big if) the translation is correct: It's sex-specific. So, once again, it's only men who are restricted. It states that marriage makes two people "become one flesh". Which is obviously not true. So the verses cannot be taken literally. It implies that no man can leave home until he gets married. I think it's also worth pointing out that the bible allows for people to be forced into marriage against their will - do you think that doing so should be legal? |
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 earthshone
Male, 18-29, Western US
1299 Posts
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Monday, November 02, 2009 11:41:13 PM
"i am god and you can not prove that i am not"_ HEY! me TOO! |
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 bingo5765
Male, 18-29, Southern US
189 Posts
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Monday, November 02, 2009 11:05:46 PM
antibodies of a woman make people gay...right. |
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 DarthJay
Male, 30-39, Southern US
202 Posts
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Monday, November 02, 2009 10:06:39 PM
And, seriously -- "erroneous" "fallacy" -- who talks that way?! Oh yeah, a kid trying to sound smart when he doesn't really know what he's talking about. Free life lesson for you,- big words don't make you sound smarter. |
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DarthJay
Male, 30-39, Southern US
202 Posts
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Monday, November 02, 2009 9:54:18 PM
@yanging*sigh* - read it again. It is Jesus confirming that God made man & woman - and then going ON to say that for this reason a MAN shall leave his father and mother and join with his WIFE (not "significant other"). |
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 lerie
Female, 18-29, S. America
470 Posts
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Monday, November 02, 2009 7:42:56 PM
LOL Freud! He was such aa funny man. |
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