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analyst Male, 50-59, Eastern US
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Monday, November 16, 2009 1:12:29 PM The problem with those grasping at a Biblical "translation error" concept is that they are unable to produce any. And when they believe they do, they point at misinterpretations as proof, not translations. Now, if we can understand they are interpretations, then there can be no delusion. So, I challenge anyone to produce errors in translations that matter. Here's your chance to move out of the sandbox of pseudo-intellectual tantrums and your fits of slander into a coherent debate.
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analyst Male, 50-59, Eastern US
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Monday, November 16, 2009 1:00:28 PM Its interesting that no statements from the Bible have been proven false, errant interpretations perhaps, yet this goes on while science revises its own misunderstandings almost daily. Sure, self-cleaning and custodial efforts may seem a noble attribute and a mark of some purity in science, but pales when we just compare the records of ID and evolution. The sciences of anthropology, astronomy and geology are ever proving the ancient Biblical record. The path of scientific revolution today: These disciplines first ridiculed, then adjust in moderation, then retreat from comment, and then reluctantly, confirm the Biblical record. If God didn't create everything then logic can only submit it hasn't been created and we then must believe it just exists by some scientific version of faith. The conundrum-dilemma is that while we as creation eternally speculate and revise, only God can assert and prove things were not created. |
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Baalthazaq Male, 18-29, Asia
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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:47:58 AM zerocyde: 1) I'm fairly sure Hinduism, for one, isn't all about "The bible is 100% fact". 2) Even Christianity, is not all about "The Bible is 100% fact". 3) This doesn't dispute that the Bible is fact. |
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Angilion Male, 40-49, Europe
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Monday, October 26, 2009 12:15:06 PM "Who even cares, it's all just speculation, truth is no one can prove or disprove God's existance or the fundamental foundations of science, so instead of worrying about what other people beleive, beleive what you want."Most of the modern world rests on the fundamental foundations of science. It is proven to be a reliable thing, one that we all trust our lives to all the time without thinking about it. Putting it on a par with religion is ridiculous. |
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GRadde Male, 18-29, Europe
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Monday, October 26, 2009 10:18:09 AM >MaxYEAY! A Monthy Python quote! Love it, and this article being about petty religious details, this is with one of the best timed quotes I have ever seen! |
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Zerocyde Male, 18-29, Western US
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Monday, October 26, 2009 9:38:43 AM Interesting idea, but religion is all about "BIBLE = FACT REMOVE EVEN 1 'THE' AND YOU'RE A dratING HEATHEN" and the non-religious already don't care so I don't really know who this info is meant for. |
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Subushie Male, 18-29, Southern US
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Monday, October 26, 2009 8:38:36 AM im not gonna even look at the comments, but i can already assume there are like 17 pages of religious fanatics and atheists flaming it out. good job on another successful flame war IAB. |
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screwzlooose Male, 30-39, Eastern US
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Monday, October 26, 2009 8:15:55 AM there's no story, just comments for me.. anyone else have this problem? |
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Phosphoreign Male, 30-39, Western US
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Monday, October 26, 2009 7:58:21 AM good call, herr ubermeister... |
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Overmann Male, 18-29, Southern US
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Monday, October 26, 2009 6:31:16 AM Split hairs that ultimately lead nowhere. Next? |
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gorgack2000 Male, 13-17, Europe
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Monday, October 26, 2009 5:48:51 AM "According to them there used to be an enormous body of water in which monsters were living, covered in darkness, she said." LOVECRAFT WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG |
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almightybob1 Male, 18-29, Europe
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Monday, October 26, 2009 4:42:03 AM joey: I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm from Megido.Prof Van Wolde added: "The traditional view of God the Creator is untenable now."
What do you mean, "now"? |
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joey7415963 Male, 18-29, Europe
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Monday, October 26, 2009 4:19:42 AM @ Megido: You really don't help the Christian image, I'm a Christian and I don't feel the need to tell every one that my faith (because that's what it is a FAITH!) is any better than someone elses. |
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Megido Male, 18-29, Europe
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Monday, October 26, 2009 4:02:06 AM Well since any good christian KNOWS that the bible is infallible and 100% true this just can't be right. |
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joey7415963 Male, 18-29, Europe
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Monday, October 26, 2009 3:49:51 AM Who even cares, it's all just speculation, truth is no one can prove or disprove God's existance or the fundamental foundations of science, so instead of worrying about what other people beleive, beleive what you want.I think science has much better time spent researching in other areas rather than worrying about what people beleive. |
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lukas1051 Male, 18-29, Europe
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Monday, October 26, 2009 3:11:50 AM Here's my theory. God created nothing. |
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Max_Normal Male, 30-39, Europe
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Monday, October 26, 2009 3:09:09 AM Obadiah, his servants. There shall, in that time, be rumours of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things wi-- with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend's hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o'clock. Yea, it is written in the book of Cyril that, in that time, shall the third one... |
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mehh Female, 18-29, Australia
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:00:42 PM "That is the bigest problem...the bible was not translated right"The biggest problem with the Bible is people keep putting it in the non-fiction section |
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kangoala Male, 18-29, Australia
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:51:21 PM I knew it! Aliens!!!!! |
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Angilion Male, 40-49, Europe
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:50:53 PM "That is the bigest problem...the bible was not translated right"I think that's only one of the major problems and I think it goes deeper than that. I'd say that the Christian bible *can't* be translated completely accurately. Not without time travel, anyway, and even then the explanatory notes required to put the translation into the correct cultural contexts might be longer than the text itself. For example, we're no longer considering how to overthrow older religions in which ritual sex occurs in temples - that's a crucial context for most of the alleged prohibitions on homosexuality. Even with the much more recent new testament, there are simple translation issues even without context. For example, Paul uses the word arsenokoitai (transliterated Greek). What does it mean? No-one knows. It appears very rarely and is never defined. It's usually translated as "homosexual men", but that's just forcing the text to fit a preconceived idea. |
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xxPinkxx Female, 18-29, Canada
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:11:30 PM well i thought it was interesting. |
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Geogypsy Female, 18-29, Canada
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:48:31 PM The Hebrew Midrash says that there are seventy faces to the Torah...this means that there are 70 ways to interpret every facet. Jews having been doing it for thousands of years already. |
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Dfaulted Male, 13-17, Canada
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 6:52:48 PM That is the bigest problem...the bible was not translated right |
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pmarren Male, 30-39, Midwest US
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 6:35:42 PM Again, it's just all so silly. |
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opiebreath Female, 18-29, Midwest US
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 4:26:13 PM "If I wasn't posting second, I'd say Angillion is purposely agreeing with me on random topics to freak me out"Why can't wee be frieeends! |
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