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 PierreJeanFR
Male, 30-39, Europe
 236 Posts
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Friday, October 16, 2009 5:26:01 AM
Bush accomplishment's...hmmm illegal war, rise of terrorism, Katrina, financial meltdown and so on.
I think he deserved the prize just for how everyone in the world looks differently at the USA, unfortunatly some americans are really ugly to look at ... |
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Wazpoppin9
Male, 18-29, Australia
70 Posts
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Friday, October 16, 2009 3:39:13 AM
and he wins of all prizes, the NOBLE PEACE PRIZE... well done guys! |
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 saintnick
Male, 13-17, Africa
271 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:25:45 PM
edana42awesome, finally a little balance |
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 MCFLYYY
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
25 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:23:30 PM
"On top of 21K he sent in March 09. Wait, I thought he was the President that was going to get the troops outta there."Someone doesn't understand that Iraq and Afghanistan are two different countries. Obama pulled troops out of Iraq (where we don't have any need to be) and is putting more into Afghanistan (the ones who did attack us in the first place). I don't get how the Bush administration fooled the country so easily. The Taliban from AFGHANISTAN attacked us, so we put a few troops there for a while. But then for some reason we deploy everything we have in IRAQ? Why?? |
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 edana42
Female, 40-49, Eastern US
497 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 1:11:43 PM
obama's accomplishments:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYnMYZDsr... |
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edana42
Female, 40-49, Eastern US
497 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 1:06:56 PM
lol Nobel Peace Prize for "{future} use of diplomacy over strong arm" bahahahahayep, you voted for him. |
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 idontknow951
Male, 18-29, Canada
1047 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:10:04 AM
Just nuke the damn middle east and deal with the poo like you're doing now. |
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 jareddevour
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
279 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:06:43 AM
I'm a firm believer in the idea that if we're gonna be there at all, we should be there full force. Full attention of the government and population, a surplus of troops in country. That's what we need if we ever want to get out of there.Here's an analogy I came up with.
Say you're the manager of an office. There's a huge amount of work to be done, you're way behind. Is it more efficient to have one person work on the extra work for 3 weeks, or to have the whole office come in on a saturday and get it all done? I would vote the latter. On an unrelated note, this war is looking more and more like vietnam every day. given, it's a little more acceptable because the taliban wants to kill Americans, but everything else is almost identical. |
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sheaton319
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
219 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:44:35 AM
This is supposed to be a fun site for when you are bored. Not the drudgereport. |
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 oceanbeast
Male, 18-29, Southern US
362 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:28:00 AM
antonin - thanks man, but people didnt offer Bush that benefit of the doubt, so why should obama? no one really knows what info bush had and why he made smoe decisions that might seem odd, but we dont know what he was reacting too. so NO i cant give obama slack on this, we need improved strategies for exiting the middle east, they dont want us there. |
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 Antonin
Male, 18-29, Southern US
31 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:07:53 AM
A loop hole that people in defense of the President's troop surges always repeat to me is: "He said that he would pull them out of Iraq, and he has! That doesn't mean that he couldn't send them to Afghanistan."Just... no... On the other side, As president you are entitled to information that many other people aren't. It is possible that prior, or even recent, intelligence reports have the President concerned enough to keep the troops over there. Where do I stand on the matter? I can't say for sure - It would be nice to see and end to this conflict and all the troops back home though. This is one of those issues where I am tied in the middle. |
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oceanbeast
Male, 18-29, Southern US
362 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:08:17 AM
the only stat ive found on ron paul and lobbyists, is $2500 for his campaign from which equaled less than 1% of his total contributions. but i dont know how accurate that is at all, over 89% of ron paul's campaign was funded by regular people, grass roots style. |
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oceanbeast
Male, 18-29, Southern US
362 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:03:43 AM
saint nick thanks for that youtube post. |
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oceanbeast
Male, 18-29, Southern US
362 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:01:42 AM
"If the Constitution didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and [the] Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. The document, he argued, “Says what the states can’t do to you, says what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf.” clearly missing the point that the constitution is there to LIMIT government. and that link didnt say anywhere Ron Paul has taken money from lobbies. |
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 Gn0m3
Male, 13-17, Canada
344 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:40:03 AM
good now the Canadians can finally get some help. they are the only ones actually doing any significant work. |
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 kinjomusashi
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
671 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 4:52:53 AM
surprise you've all been duped again!! |
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 tuxman4
Male, 13-17, Southern US
221 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 4:46:03 AM
I'm not really surprised by this. In his blue book for change thing on his website said he was going to take troops out of Iraq and move them to Afghanistan. It was on his website during campaigning, but now its gone. |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
2691 Posts
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Thursday, October 15, 2009 4:23:05 AM
Remember when Obama said he'd send more troops there ? and he's waffled on it. 13,000 is not a lot of help. Remember when he promised an end to "don't ask don't tell" ? Ya, don't expect to see that one anytime soon either. His words mean little if anything, Look at his actions. Gen. McChrystal begs for more troops, Obama goes off to promote Chicago Olympics. Gay protesters march on Wash DC, He leaves town. He's more interested in his image than solving problems folks. |
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saintnick
Male, 13-17, Africa
271 Posts
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Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:08:34 PM
oceanbeastyou should never allow others to formulate your opinions for you, stand your ground & always follow your beliefs  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOYyWpuEj...
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saintnick
Male, 13-17, Africa
271 Posts
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Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:03:34 PM
oh, yeah,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxYDnYgQ5... |
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saintnick
Male, 13-17, Africa
271 Posts
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Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:58:38 PM
the chosen one..http://mrsmiller85.files.wordpress.com/2... |
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xxRolandxx
Male, 18-29, Asia
3 Posts
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Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:52:13 PM
Hey "oceanbeast" are you sure you "heard" President Obama say it, or heard someone else say President Obama say it.You see in the political world when we make claims against another opponent we must provide links which support those claims. Otherwise I could say "I heard Ron Paul say he was the Grand Wizard of the Texas KKK and wants to pass a law allowing lynchings to be legal again." See how easy that is? Now when I make claims I support it with evidence which when called into question I can provide evidence if needed. So Im calling BS on your claim. Also I have no idea what you are talking about when you said "and understands that the constitution must the president not the other way around." cause that just didn't make a bit of sense. Ohh and your beloved Ron Paul has taken money from lobbyists. http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/... |
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 opiebreath
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
14268 Posts
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Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:48:57 PM
Lobbyists aren't all bad, Ocean. I've lobbied! Well... I didn't do it with any organization... |
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oceanbeast
Male, 18-29, Southern US
362 Posts
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Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:09:16 PM
ron paul is the only politician that has never worked with a lobbyist, has a voting record that reflects what he stands for, and understands that the constitution must the president not the other way around. i have even heard obama say the constitution is to be interrupted not directly, also he has said that the founding fathers where wrong in writing the constitution as they did |
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oceanbeast
Male, 18-29, Southern US
362 Posts
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Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:03:12 PM
"LOL @ Voting for Ron Paul. That's like throwing your voters registration in a fireplace. at least it would keep you warm for a bit."really? i voted for ron paul, because its my right as an american. maybe it is that way because politics in general have become a huge drated up monster where he who raises the most money wins? so by me not supporting conglomerate pre packaged candidates like obama or hillary or mccain or any other person placed there by an unknown hand i am throwing my vote into a fire? naw you are whats wrong with america's politics, complacency and the tolerance to keep the system intact. ron paul is working on a bill to audit the FED, and its gaining alot of votes and passed in the house already i believe. ron paul actually does things, obama never even wrote a bill while in congress i believe. we need to go back to grassroots politics where the people fund who they want to vote for, not having corps. sell them a candidate |
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