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Boy, 4, Dies After Supermarket Fall

Hits: 19948 | Rating: (1.6) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: wateva_x
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DrHorrible
Male, 18-29, Western US
 95 Posts
Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:38:42 AM
My kids are allowed to climb on things at playgrounds, not stores. If the railing was, say, to keep people from falling, the kid was leaning against it and fell - store's fault. But sorry, hanging and climbing on it - my fault. See how that works?

alice_x
Female, 18-29, Europe
 5227 Posts
Wednesday, October 07, 2009 3:19:00 AM
This made me really sad :(

I can't imagine what the parents are going through...but whats the point in sueing, the reason there are so many rules in this country now are because of that exact reason, people sue for anything, it was the mother responsability, she should have been watching her son, it isnt the supermarkets fault -sigh-

meh. who even cares anymore, our country has gone to sh*t already.. benefits, claims, money being thrown at people as apologies for there own mistakes, because we are too soft to say no.


atconner
Male, 18-29, Canada
 27 Posts
Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:38:37 PM
Angilion, there's a fourth degree burn, as well. It typically happens with electrocution and the skin turns into a white powder, and just blows away in the breeze.

... all we are is duuuuuuuuuust in the wiiiiiiiiiind


Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1448 Posts
Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:53:49 PM
"If you are too idiotic to put together that something STEAMING might be a smidgen warm, then I truly hope you play with fire one too many times."

If the coffee had been sold at a reasonable temperature for coffee, you would have a point. It wasn't, you don't. The product was dangerous beyond reasonable expectations and was completely unfit for the purpose for which it was sold. McDonalds was clearly aware of this beforehand.

Had the coffee been at a hot drinkable temperature (i.e. fit for purpose), it would have been a different matter.

You should reasonably expect a hot drink to be hot enough to be very painful if spilled on you, maybe even cause superficial burns.

This not-really-a-drink caused third degree (i.e. the highest category) burns over 6% of the person's body. That is not a degree of hazard that a customer should reasonably expect.

Comparing it to slapping a lion is therefore silly.


Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1448 Posts
Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:44:56 PM
"Saying McDonalds was actually responsible for the famous "Coffee Caper" incident, is to say that they are also responsible for poeple that get fat because they eat too much of their food....Fact is, people in these situations refuse to take responsibility for their OWN ACTIONS..."

The person's OWN ACTION in this case was to put milk into a cup of coffee. So she's responsible for having slightly milky coffee rather than black coffee.

She isn't responsible for MCDONALD'S ACTION of deliberately and knowingly providing a very dangerous product that was completely unfit for the purpose for which it was sold.

So it isn't at all like people getting fat because they eat too much fatty fast food.


lerie
Female, 18-29, S. America
 470 Posts
Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:31:11 PM
It is very sad, but if you let your kid swing in a railing, guess who is responsible.

welfarepimp
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 142 Posts
Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:12:00 PM
They shouldn't get a pence, which means they'll get billions. They should have employees that do nothing but follow customers around to keep them from swinging on things.

On the plus side, many of the idiots that think the family deserves money probably shop there and will end up paying higher prices as a result.


Sigon
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 37 Posts
Tuesday, October 06, 2009 6:27:02 AM
Saying McDonalds was actually responsible for the famous "Coffee Caper" incident, is to say that they are also responsible for poeple that get fat because they eat too much of their food....Fact is, people in these situations refuse to take responsibility for their OWN ACTIONS...This story is a perfect yet tragic example of the same thing...parents are notorious for this...something happens to their kid when they are not paying attention and then they go sue crazy...its stupid, wrong, and I get tired of seeing it....My heart does go out to the family for their loss...

OrangeCrow
Female, 18-29, Western US
 928 Posts
Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:26:44 AM
I'm sorry but no, I don't see the Grocery store being liable for this. =/

It's a really sad story, but it's wrong to hold the store accountable for what has happened. The parents should have been watching their child more closely, advising him not to swing on the railing.

I still feel sad for their child passing away though. It's tragic.


kirstoner
Female, 18-29, Australia
 115 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 11:38:57 PM
Moral to thsi story?
Supervise & discipline your own children, people. Or they will die.

LandoGriffin
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2091 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 5:53:13 PM
Yeah, what Osiris said. The McDonald's Coffee lawsuit was NOT a frivilous bullcrap lawsuit, rather, a food service industry should not serve a beverage that causes second degree burns when spilled. They did, and so they were liable for the damages.

osirisascend
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 1618 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 5:43:41 PM
@ AnImbroglio: McDonald's was serving coffee at a temperature in excess of 180 degrees Fahrenheit. In fact, for some reason that escapes explanation, before they were sued, they even had advertising that bragged about how hot they served their coffee.

McDonald's claimed that the reason for serving such hot coffee in its drive-through windows was that, because those who purchased the coffee typically wanted to drive a distance with the coffee, the high initial temperature would keep the coffee hot during the trip.

However, the company's own research showed that some customers intend to consume the coffee immediately while driving.

Other documents obtained from McDonald's showed that from 1982 to 1992 the company had received more than 700 reports of people burned by McDonald's coffee to varying degrees of severity, and had settled claims arising from scalding injuries for more than $500,000.


AnImbroglio
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 458 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 5:03:05 PM
"The McDonalds coffee case is very different to how it is commonly made out to be. In reality, she had good grounds for suing McDonalds and the ruling in her favour was reasonable."

Coffee = hot. Sometimes, stupid people have to wait for coffee to cool before drinking. There are things in this world that are self-explanatory. If you don't understand them, then darwinism takes hold and you get cleansed from the gene pool. If you slap a lion, you will get mauled. Do I really need to explain that to people, even if I run a freaking zoo? I am not responsible for your stupidity. Making me out to be is unreasonable and irresponsible. If you are too idiotic to put together that something STEAMING might be a smidgen warm, then I truly hope you play with fire one too many times. There is no excuse for this type of idiocy.

Sorry, I'll get off the soap box now.


AnImbroglio
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 458 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 4:57:22 PM
I suppose they shouldn't have had counters, buggies, tables, chairs, ladders, shelves, or anything else a kid could have possibly fallen from in that store. Let's put everything in nice neat rows on the ground. Safety first, people.

Blakcat71388
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 612 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 4:54:50 PM
So basically, the parents need someone to blame since clearly they will not blame themselves. They shoulda' been watching the kid and saying "don't drating swing on that - you're going to crack your head."

What the drat is wrong with people?


alfietoon
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1054 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 3:55:04 PM
So the railings.. which if the picture is anything to go by are there for the purpose of stopping the shopping trollys veering off into the road/ carpark and also serving the purpose of keeping things tidy and neat. the parents should not have aloud there 4 year old son to be swinging on railings, by all means it was a dreadful thing to happen, and its terrible that a 4 year old payed with his life.... but the parents are responsible, NOT Somerfield, but im guessing now in every single supermarket there is now going to be a no swinging on the railings sign... aswell as the no alcohol to any person(s) under 18, and the imfamous do not insert pineapple up rectum

Boadicea
Female, 18-29, Canada
 788 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 3:28:13 PM
You hit people when you're too stupid to discipline verbally. Honestly. Kids may seem stupid and out of control, but if you treat them like people, rather than annoying yapping dogs, you can deal with them without resorting to violence. Violence breeds violence.

If they're raised properly from the start, they'll understand when they need to shut the drat up and sit down.


hudaman
Male, 18-29, Canada
 24 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 2:52:02 PM
I don't get it. Isn't this supposed to be a funny site

DaisyDope
Female, 13-17, Europe
 175 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 12:23:36 PM
aaaaahh liverpool. liverpool, liverpool.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1448 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 11:55:19 AM
"angilion, really?"

Yes, really. I'm one of those weirdoes who thinks that beating people is wrong, especially those who can't effectively defend themselves.

[sarcasm]Maybe I haven't played enough Grand Theft Auto.[/sarcasm]

Given that you think that beating children is a good thing, please explain *in a way that is consistent with your position* why it would be wrong to pay a bully to beat the child instead and also why it would be wrong to beat a frail elderly person with dementia.

And yes, I am serious about that. I am using it to demonstrate the lack of internal consistency in your point of view. Unless, of course, you also consider those to be good things or you get some pleasure from beating children.


realblender
Male, 18-29, Europe
 509 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 11:38:55 AM
1. Mr Blackmore, 39, said: "Now we're lost. We're completely empty. We just can't believe it."

2. "The distraught parents, who have four daughters..."

I guess girls just don't quite cut it.


dragosal
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1044 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 10:13:46 AM
"Beating people who can't effectively defend themselves is easy, but why do it yourself when you can pay bullies a small amount to do it for you? That saves you any effort, rewards bullies for their early understanding of the ideas you want to promote and gives them some work experience. Of course, you might like doing it yourself.

Why only children? People who have been made frail by old age are about as easy to beat as young children, so why not beat them too? Especially those whose minds have been affected as well, as they can be very childlike.

angilion, really? there is a huge differance between beating your children and physical discipline tho the WORDS are interchangeable. and some children need a swat on the behind on occasion to teach them right from wrong. not everyone is wired the same way mentally so mommy waving her finger and saying no isn't a 100% fix. especially if the parents have been lax in teaching their kids right from wrong.


Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1448 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 9:05:12 AM
"IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!!!! YOU DON'T SUE FOR AN ACCIDENT UNLESS UR AS STUPID AS THE McDonald's COFFEE LADY!"

Are you trying to make yourself look bad? If so, your semiliterate shouting was a good idea.

The woman in question suffered third degree burns over 6% of her body, an agonising thing that required a lot of medical attention and caused permament injury. McDonalds was serving something unfit for the intended purpose (it was far too hot to drink) and already knew that it was dangerous (there had been many other injuries before and McDonalds was well aware of the problem).

Also, the woman was not driving and the car she was a passenger in was not moving.

The McDonalds coffee case is very different to how it is commonly made out to be. In reality, she had good grounds for suing McDonalds and the ruling in her favour was reasonable.


Subushie
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 563 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 8:08:40 AM
agreed, the parents are to blame. what is the child doing "yards away" and none the less, was "swinging on a small steel rail" although i sympathize for them, they have no right in suing the store. it is, unfortunately human nature to push the blame to someone else, when it is so obvious it is there fault.

Aretsuku-kun
Male, 13-17, Canada
 285 Posts
Monday, October 05, 2009 7:55:24 AM
I don't understand how they think legal action is even proper at all, if anything they should be sent to jail for neglecting their child.

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