 Snow_Crash
Female, 18-29, Canada
 61 Posts
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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:23:31 PM
Disappointing. Sherlock Holmes is mystery, not action! Plus I desperately wanted to see Hugh Laurie in that role. >.> I have read a few of the stories, just in case I sound ignorant. |
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 DrVenkman
Male, 18-29, Europe
161 Posts
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Monday, July 27, 2009 4:54:08 AM
Has anyone pointed out the fact that the title of this post is "New Sherlock Holmer Trailer?" |
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 Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
1451 Posts
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Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:24:38 PM
"So instead of "pandering" to the "elitists" who want quality and character and drama, you'd rather Hollywood pander to the proles who want loud noises and explosions?"I want both, at different times in different contexts. I've read all the Holmes stories and think they are brilliant, vibrant stories with beautiful use of language. I've also seen and enjoyed many simple action films, such as Schwarzenegger's earlier films. I wouldn't mind a simple action film set in Victorian/Edwardian England. What I mind is this attempt to delete the original Sherlock Holmes by over-writing them with this new film, which should be called something like "Enter The Victorian Dragon and Die Hard with Sherlock Holmes" |
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 xoTreesha
Female, 13-17, Western US
77 Posts
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Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:12:46 PM
Well, that was expected... I mean, it's Hollywood and when you give them material, they blow it out of proportion. Though this is not the Sherlock Holmes most of you expect, some of its aspects is still there. Just placed in a more modern style that they figured would attract an audience. It's just typical... |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
1451 Posts
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Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:12:16 PM
dreadqueen00: You have completely missed the point, which you prove by stating "If the movie wasn't called "Sherlock Holmes," I guarantee you would be saying, "Looks pretty cool, I'll see it" instead of ranting about how Hollywood ruins everything." as if it was a counter-argument.The argument isn't that the film looks crap or boring. The argument is that (a) the film is abusing someone else's work for profit and (b) it is going to diminish that work by at least partially over-writing it. In the future, 'Sherlock Holmes' will be at least partially associated with this film and not with the original work. You only need to look at the OP for an example - it appears they didn't even know that the original Sherlock Holmes stories existed! You also say that the books and stories were stuffy, which I think is a bizarre way to refer to them. |
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 koolkidme
Male, 18-29, Western US
123 Posts
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Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:26:25 PM
some of the places where they filmed are in the next assassin creed game. kudos! |
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DrVenkman
Male, 18-29, Europe
161 Posts
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Saturday, July 25, 2009 3:45:55 AM
Lucky2U:So instead of "pandering" to the "elitists" who want quality and character and drama, you'd rather Hollywood pander to the proles who want loud noises and explosions? |
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Lucky2u
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
38 Posts
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Friday, July 24, 2009 12:05:13 PM
lol, i like people trying to crucify hollywood for what they are doing to sherlock holmes. if they pandered to you small minority of elitists, this movie would be terrible, but probably have great reviews and win some small "nobody-cares" award.as we've seen from transformers, the american audience just wants flash, screw the intelligence. |
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 dreadqueen00
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
166 Posts
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Friday, July 24, 2009 6:05:21 AM
Oh give it a rest. I respect original literature as much as any of you, but with that respect I can also appreciate when someone tries to do something new with it. If the movie wasn't called "Sherlock Holmes," I guarantee you would be saying, "Looks pretty cool, I'll see it" instead of ranting about how Hollywood ruins everything. And by the way--love Sherlock Holmes. But the books are stuffy. Very stuffy. That style is indicative of the time period and not necessarily a bad thing. So get over it already. |
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DrVenkman
Male, 18-29, Europe
161 Posts
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Friday, July 24, 2009 4:49:42 AM
Now that's more like it. I was starting to think I was the only one here with any respect for the original character of Holmes before Hollywood crapped all over it. Keep the comments coming, guys! |
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sariel
Male, 18-29, Australia
36 Posts
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Friday, July 24, 2009 4:31:48 AM
"New Sherlock Holmer Trailer, New Footage [Video]. Kudos to Guy Ritchie and Robert Downey Jr. for turning a dry and somewhat stuffy series into a potential blockbuster."what th HELL is wrong with you!!! 'Kudos to Gur Ricthie and Robert Downe Junior for butchering a classic literary character in order to transform the books, which should be respected into a carbon copy american actioner. Case in point he dives out of the houses of parliment into the thames. I hope americans realise what they are doing to the world of art. |
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 KMRocky
Female, 18-29, Western US
239 Posts
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Friday, July 24, 2009 2:07:37 AM
CURSE YOU I-AM-BORED! "dry and somewhat stuffy?" Sherlock Holmes will never ever be dry and somewhat stuffy!Itsalwysunny is right. Hollywood just steals the names of characters from books and turns them into crap-ness that has nothing to do with the original character and ruins their once good names. And Jude Law as Watson , come on! This is just like Van Helsing thanks for ruining another one of my favorite characters lives. |
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 Itsalwysunny
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1336 Posts
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Friday, July 24, 2009 12:26:20 AM
"So now anything without gratuitous violence and slow motion is dry and somewhat stuffy? This movie looks ridiculous, yet another Hollywood scheme to make money rather than appreciate art."
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uh where were you during the 109809775 scenes of Robert Downey Jr. Mut Thai fighting some guy??? and I know you're going to look up how to spell muy thai to try and call me out but you know what?.........F*ck you guy I'm drunk I don't care |
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 shunpo_31
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1308 Posts
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Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:37:39 PM
This looks AMAZING. Probably not exactly true to the nature of his namesake, but as far as a movie I'd want to go watch, very very awesome. |
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 FlamedNight
Male, 13-17, Southern US
335 Posts
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Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:18:32 PM
I saw on the history channel the character Sherlock Holmes did cocaine. I think the author did too.Oh and the movie looks great I'm going to have to go see it. I hardly go see movies. |
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 buttersisluv
Female, 18-29, Europe
330 Posts
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Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:55:37 PM
"Kudos to Guy Ritchie and Robert Downey Jr. for turning a dry and somewhat stuffy series into a potential blockbuster."So now anything without gratuitous violence and slow motion is dry and somewhat stuffy? This movie looks ridiculous, yet another Hollywood scheme to make money rather than appreciate art.
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
1451 Posts
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Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:36:18 PM
How on earth could anyone describe the Sherlock Holmes stories as "a dry and somewhat stuffy series"?Perhaps someone who had watched the Granada TV programs and didn't even know that Sherlock Holmes was actually a character in books and short stories could do so, but surely no-one would be that ignorant and not check anything? |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
1451 Posts
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Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:27:43 PM
In the stories (not just the books - most of Conan Doyle's Holmes stories were shorter stories published in a magazine) there are several references to Holmes being skilled in a form of martial art referred to as "single stick". Bartitsu didn't exist when the first Holmes stories were written and I don't recall the fighting style Holmes used being specifically named, but Bartitsu would fit.Holmes is also explicitly stated in the stories as being a very competent boxer. For an example of Holmes and stick fighting, see 'The Illustrious Client'. For an example of Holmes and boxing, see 'The Solitary Cyclist'. The film looks very far from being true to the originals, but Holmes was written by Conan Doyle as a very competent fighter, both armed and unarmed. |
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DrVenkman
Male, 18-29, Europe
161 Posts
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Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:18:50 PM
JSwerve:
In "The Solitary Cyclist," Holmes gets the 19th century equivelent of a barfight. In "A Study in Scarlet" Watson describes Holmes as an excellent boxer, swordsman and singlestick player. Meanwhile, in, "The Sign of Four" a boxer tells Holmes he has "wasted his gifts" and should've become a professional boxer. Even the most casual of Holmesians can tell you of his fighting skill.Kikayoaka:
Your comment works both ways. Have you ever considered that maybe some people dont give a flying **** about bullcrap Hollywood nonsense? |
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JSwerve
Male, 18-29, Western US
6 Posts
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Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:21:38 PM
"READ THE BOOKS. Holmes was ALWAYS a badass. He was an expert boxer and versed in the martial art Bartistsu."Was he? I don't remember that and I HAVE read all the Sherlock Holmes stories. |
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 lostinkorea
Female, 30-39, Europe
1053 Posts
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Thursday, July 23, 2009 4:48:14 PM
Please oh please tell me that was sarcasm kikayoaka!? OMG....OMG |
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 kikayoaka
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
305 Posts
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Thursday, July 23, 2009 4:42:21 PM
As for the movie, it looks pretty badass. |
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kikayoaka
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
305 Posts
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Thursday, July 23, 2009 4:42:00 PM
DrVenkman:Have you ever considered, maybe, just maybe, that some people don't a give a flying **** about books? I don't see in any way how reading is such a superior form of entertainment. Is it because it makes you feel better about yourself? Makes you feel smarter and more sophisticated? Cause as long as it makes you feel good about yourself ya know. Oh yeah, read books, because that's what people used to do for entertainment. Well you know people used to wipe their asses with their hands too, and I don't see how that's superior and more sophisticated than using toilet paper. I mean good god man, leave people alone, if they want to watch movies instead of read books let them, instead of raging about how reading books will magically make them a better person. |
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excelman
Male, 30-39, Canada
417 Posts
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Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:50:38 PM
where's his pipe?
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 Moneo
Female, 13-17, Europe
147 Posts
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Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:41:15 PM
Micky Bay-style movie which makes me wanna cry. WHY Does Hollywood has to make every movie trailer THE SAME?! Makes me sick. |
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