 DrkAng3LxNat
Female, 13-17, Canada
 936 Posts
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Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:56:52 PM
I'm not going to voice my view on this because whichever side I choose some people are going to be angry.Instead I ask: Why is this under the "Science" section of IAB D: |
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 tomboygirl12
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
254 Posts
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Monday, August 03, 2009 4:52:18 PM
Not all the details have been disclosed, so there could have been an alternate reason to not allow her to wear the shirt. But, still, i side with the girl on this, in fact i like the shirt and would try to wear it to school just for the hell of it. |
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 Tiffany1988
Female, 18-29, Europe
111 Posts
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Monday, August 03, 2009 8:34:34 AM
well i dont think the shirt is shocking but i can also understand she couldent wear it to school but then again why dress u kid with a shirt like that?and why couldent they send her home to change?
and im not for or against abortion but women should deceide for there own what to do with their body's
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 Dfaulted
Male, 13-17, Canada
1614 Posts
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Saturday, July 18, 2009 4:33:59 PM
"what does a 12 year old understand about any of this"
Don't be a bitch i knew plenty of this when i was 11 which is 2 years ago so stfu |
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 Mistinguett
Female, 18-29, Europe
53 Posts
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Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:11:58 AM
what does a 12 year old understand about any of this |
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 OrangeCrow
Female, 18-29, Western US
928 Posts
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Friday, July 17, 2009 12:06:03 AM
Wow. >_> I was mentioning budget cuts because her mom is sueing the school. You don't drating sue a school for something like this. Why not make a petition or peacefully protest instead of wanting to take money from a public school?If your kid gets injured from something that is the school's fault; Alright I'll agree to that no problem. But taking money for a reason like this, drat NO. You clearly don't understand the sad state our schools are in. :/ |
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 cunegonde
Female, 30-39, Southern US
121 Posts
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Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:10:07 AM
Oh never mind, this isn't the place to argue pro-life vs pro-choice, nor is this the audience. The question is whether or not the girl's first-amendment rights were violated and my answer would be "Yes", regardless of how I feel about her T-shirt. Unless the school has a written dress code in place prohibiting expression of religious/political beliefs, the girl did nothing wrong, though her mother at least should have anticipated that the T-shirt would cause problems for her daughter. That's what I find the most objectionable, honestly---that the kid's mom would let her (or even encourage her) to wear the shirt to school in the first place. It shows an appalling lack of common sense and reeks of the mother using the daughter to aggressively flaunt her political agenda. |
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 jdopgrinen
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
27 Posts
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Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:37:13 PM
I'm more surprised by the fact that they made her throw out her food, and take her shirt off in front of everyone. If they had been like "Hey, go change in this shirt, and give us that shirt" It would have been acceptable, but it sounds like they went out of their way to make her as uncomfortable as possible. |
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 moxi2001
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
6 Posts
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Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:40:50 AM
wow i cannot believe how stupid some of these replies are. you still have the first amendment right when you are in school. you have all of your rights. and she is not getting a free education. her parents' tax money helps pay for that education. why? because schools are NOT separate from government. and you shouldn't judge the girl for her shirt. most kids in 7th grade don't have political opinions, but some do. i did. did it say that her parents forced her to wear the shirt? no it did not. and before anyone says anything; no i am not siding with her because i share her beliefs, i am pro-choice. and we should not stand up for our childrens' rights because of school budget cuts?! wtf. that comment is so stupid that i am completely dumbfounded and cannot begin to describe in how many ways that is wrong. i know a lot of you will say I'm a bitch, but your ignorance and intolerance is just astounding. THIS IS AMERICA PPL! |
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MafiaQueen13
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
53 Posts
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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:51:46 PM
is it just me or kids in 7th grade shouldn't have an opinion on this yet, a little innapropriate for school |
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 xattributex
Male, 18-29, Southern US
126 Posts
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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:28:13 PM
Lando:
Certainly you have something better for me, than cherry-picking a word I ginuninely mispronounced? Obviously not, or you would have presented it. This was clearly an attempt to argue without an argument. Thats ok...Its obvious that I meant "contraceptive"...it being the only word that fit the sentence structure and topic. Anybody and everybody who read this gathered that because it doesnt even take an imagination to see that people can screw up on typing, pronunciation,etc.
By the way, I was never asking for "respect"...im not sure this will be something reached over the internet. I was simply correcting a misconception and trying to end a juvenile arguement. Thank you.. |
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 Itsalwysunny
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1336 Posts
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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:20:47 AM
I wore this shirt to school all the time and no one ever said SH*T to me about it offending them and if they did i probably would have laughed in their face
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 seeks_love
Female, 18-29, Western US
342 Posts
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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:11:22 AM
@Wazpoppin9
Unfortunately freedom of expression, to many people, means 'My way or the highway! I can express my opinion, but you can't express yours because I don't like it.'
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 Nidonemo
Male, 18-29, Western US
6453 Posts
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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:26:11 AM
The article is written with a bias slant. Vice-like grip is a matter of opinion and argument, oh wait that's why, upper left corner we see who this is from. Anyway, I've never heard of "National Pro-Life T-Shirt Day." It must be one of those small group made up days like "Talk Like a Pirate Day", or "Have Random Buttsex Day". |
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Wazpoppin9
Male, 18-29, Australia
70 Posts
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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:28:42 AM
Dammit america! what happened to your renowned freedom to express yourself??? All we hear here in the rest of the world is how you pride yourself in your many freedoms... but then something as little as this is so hotly debated?Let the girl where whatever she likes...!! |
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 Ms_Thang
Female, 18-29, Southern US
247 Posts
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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:11:52 AM
I'd have a problem with seeing this shirt since I'm pro-choice. If some chick gets knocked because she can't figure out how to use a condom or birth control she should be able to make a choice to keep it or not. It would save 1 more child from an Orphanage, or having parents that beat them, ignore them ect. However I do believe she has a right to her own opinion even if me or anyone else doesn't like it. Schools still have rules though, I was stuck in a middle school years ago that wouldn't let anyone wear anything supporting gay rights, I mean wtf? You could get away with a pot leaf shirt but not a gay rights shirt. I kind of doubt this woman will win though since the kid had to sign a paper that probably said she'll follow school rules... Who knows. |
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 Lynea
Female, 13-17, Western US
229 Posts
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Monday, July 13, 2009 11:06:01 PM
The first right amendment does not apply in school. This lady will never win. |
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Somnum
Male, 18-29, Europe
23 Posts
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Monday, July 13, 2009 10:26:03 PM
This never was about dress codes or what kind of imaging was on the tshirt. The problem here is that the parents outfitted their 11-yearold with a tshirt representing their own opinion. And no, I wasnt braindead at that age, but i sure as hell didnt have a reflected political opinion on advanced matters such as the abortion debate. Honestly, at age 11 most kids dont give a poo. But what the principal probably wanted to avoid is this kid getting humiliated or "marked" by wearing such clothes. As soon as a tshirt expresses political opinion, its a strong tool to use, and honestly, I dont think any kids at this age should be wearing political messages on their body unless they insist so themselves without parents brainwashing them. Feel free to slaughter me, but its the truth. |
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 Gerbear
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
1152 Posts
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Monday, July 13, 2009 10:09:13 PM
Wait, didn't get to finish her breakfast? Sh-t's gonna go down. |
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 Overmann
Male, 18-29, Southern US
3145 Posts
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Monday, July 13, 2009 10:05:48 PM
"George Carlin is dead *meant that literally and metaphorically*"Your point? ...Oh, why do I still bother asking? |
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 LikeOMJ51
Female, 13-17, Western US
34 Posts
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Monday, July 13, 2009 9:56:48 PM
Of course!
She has every right to wear the shirt! There's no reason why she shouldn't be able to wear it. She has a right to her opinion and the shirt didn't break the dress code!
It wasnt spaghetti straps, it didn't advertise beer or drugs, and it didn't have an offensive slogan. She was merely pointing out that abortion is MURDER and she has ever right to do so! I hope she wins the law suit. |
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cagel
Female, 18-29, Western US
104 Posts
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Monday, July 13, 2009 9:09:30 PM
1st amendment only applies to the government. Not Public schools. Public schools can regulate student dress all they want. If they restricted this girl's shirt, not a pro-choice shirt, then they are jerkoffs. But they didn't violate any law. She's a minor getting a free public education. They can tell her what she can and can't wear on campus. |
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 LandoGriffin
Male, 30-39, Western US
2091 Posts
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Monday, July 13, 2009 8:53:53 PM
"lives worth the laziness of simple contresective?"What does "contresective" mean? Does that mean anti-religion? Since "sect" means religion, "contresective" must mean anti-religion, right? You didn't mean "contraceptive" did you? That means "anti-conception" which prevents conceiving a baby. Am I really explaining this word to someone who wants us to respect his opinion on reproductive issues? |
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 DavioMagnifi
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
366 Posts
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Monday, July 13, 2009 8:46:39 PM
"Can someone tell me what this prolife thing is?"
Pro-life is the position of believing that babies should be born if they are conceived.
pro-choice is the belief that it is the decision of the mother of the child.I think that abortions should require parental consent if the mother is a minor. After the age of 17, i dont care what the f*ck you do. It's your f*cking fault.
That settles that. |
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DavioMagnifi
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
366 Posts
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Monday, July 13, 2009 8:42:02 PM
"i am not pro-life.i see a pattern with pro-life protesters,that it's always the girl's fault."whyd you get knocked up in the first place", "why didnt u use a condom"Ok so it was her decision (unless it wasn't, i'm not an non-nice individual). There not going to call a guy out on it for two reasons.
1) The guy isn't walking around broadcasting that
he had unprotected sex and a baby coming on the
way.
2) The guy isn't arguing for pro-decision. |
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