 HarryBalszak
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 1136 Posts
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Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:40:04 PM
"lmao, and you are a qualified expert on explosion analysis right?"No. But he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.  |
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 dairy
Male, 18-29, Europe
378 Posts
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Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:10:00 PM
thats called a high street. |
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 slayer50515
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
537 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:49:41 PM
Conejito1011, its called that because its built as a strip of stores (so i assume). Strip malls arent inside actual mall buildings, they are seperate series of stores chained together. |
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 Conejito1011
Female, 13-17, Western US
85 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:12:57 PM
Why is it called a "Strip Mall"? Is it the same as a regular mall? |
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 catbarf
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
1157 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:00:36 PM
mac n cheese, I'm afraid you're mistaken. Very rarely will you see complete combustion, and even then, under very controlled circumstances. You're going to end up with airborne carbon and hydrogen (Consider the large volume of smoke billowing out of the wreckage), and the reaction uses far less oxygen than complete combustion. There's only one detonation, the initial one- even if some of the gas doesn't combust, it's dispersed too much to combust even if more oxygen is added.Furthermore, there's not going to be two explosions, even with complete combustion. The energy is dissipated extremely rapidly, and the chain reaction cannot continue. The closest you can get to this sort of multiple-explosion event is continual combustion, i.e. burning it continuously as fuel. Oh, and you forgot the obvious- all the water released by the combustion is in gaseous form, and therefore the volume stays far too close to the starting amount to cause an implosion. |
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 MrFibbles
Male, 18-29, Europe
285 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:27:02 PM
"but it looks like a tidy bundle of dynamite aslpoded judging from the blast."lmao, and you are a qualified expert on explosion analysis right?
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 mac_n_cheese
Male, 13-17, Europe
75 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:20:09 PM
heyy im still in high school... |
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 Slade8
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
918 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:49:13 PM
And here I was expecting a massive fireball. :\
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 s0rd3dvis1on
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
2005 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:30:56 PM
mac n cheese you forgot
CH4(g) + 2O2(g) > CO2(g) + 2H2O(l) + fun.
im gonna be a chem student soon hopefully :D |
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 Shaboobalah
Male, 18-29, Canada
242 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:12:18 PM
Thanks grade 11 chemistry student |
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mac_n_cheese
Male, 13-17, Europe
75 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:34:07 AM
CH4(g) + 2O2(g) > CO2(g) + 2H2O(l))*to finish off the gas would now expand and the explosion happens |
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mac_n_cheese
Male, 13-17, Europe
75 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:31:15 AM
ok so it was an implosion followed by an explosion...
this is because the gas needs sufficient oxygen to burn
in reality there would be more ch4 than O2 so only part ofthe methane would burn (this is almost like two explosions happening)
1st explosion
(CH4(g) + 2O2(g) → CO2(g) + 2H2O(l)).
1 L + 2 L > 1 L (negligible)
in science a liquid always takes up less area than a gas of same mass so since the water (2H2O) is a liquid it is negligible.
then what we effectively have is 3 litres of gas ( 1L of methane + 2L of O2) burning to become one litre of gas ( 1L CO2) and thus a lower pressure inside than outside so the air gets sucked in. and since that air contains oxyjen...
2nd explosion
any methane that didnt have enough oxyjen to react first time reacts then and the explosion gets bigger ( all the methane that didnt react first time would react now) the energy given off would be much more than the energy of the first explosion a |
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rainmaker3
Male, 18-29, Europe
34 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:00:06 AM
Hey, did you notice the guy passing in front of the store? |
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 bankvole
Male, 30-39, Europe
550 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:52:36 AM
good god. everytime they rebuilt the shop it exploded again. You'd think someone would have turned off the gas |
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 partyyyy
Male, 18-29, Europe
149 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:24:05 AM
my visa card will do that some day !!! |
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 daverazor
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
18 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:05:39 AM
they said assploded. sounds like a post-curry party. |
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 Mah_Boi
Male, 18-29, Western US
490 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:50:59 AM
They're calling this a natural gas leak, but it looks like a tidy bundle of dynamite aslpoded judging from the blast.looks like a tidy bundle of dynamite aslpoded judging from the blast. a tidy bundle of dynamite aslpoded dynamite aslpoded aslpoded
RAAAAGE
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 Tinkerbellio
Female, 18-29, Europe
704 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:23:37 AM
ugh, overkill on the replay |
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 TabooPoison
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
1054 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:19:37 AM
Watching Mythbusters does not make you a bomb expert. |
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 JoeYC
Male, 18-29, Europe
388 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:03:54 AM
"They're calling this a natural gas leak, but it looks like a tidy bundle of dynamite aslpoded judging from the blast."your a bomb expert are you? gas can do that you know. |
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 Binary101
Male, 13-17, Asia
847 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:36:25 AM
didn't need the replay |
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 Bored2Run
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
247 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:40:02 AM
btw, I now have this really weird cyber crush on SuperSmash. I'll get over it fast...it's just Springtime and well... brains breed twitterpation. lol :P I'll get back asap after I make a couple calls on Tuesday. Cheers all. :) |
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Bored2Run
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
247 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:27:31 AM
Hellfire, enough speculation. I'll make the call to Prince George's County in Maryland tomorrow. I think it's definitely a reflection of a man in the glass of the storefronts. Additionally, I don't dispute desslox's knowledge of gas ignitions. However, I DO think more on the side that this was a planned and intentional exercise by local authorities. Whether or not the explosion/implosion happened as per plan remains to be known. But assuming this was just a "taxi" cam that just happened to be recording a vacant shopping plaza in the middle of the afternoon is far more a reach than the reasonable alternatives. Or maybe I should begin believing that 9/11 never happened and yes, in fact there is beachfront property in Arizona. :/ |
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Lou-Saydus
Male, 13-17, Western US
136 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:39:52 AM
wow that looks bad, i hope there was somebody inside. |
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 desslox
Male, 30-39, Western US
23 Posts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:02:07 AM
you are both correct... it is a implosion ( the air being sucked into the explosion) which then explodes outward. trying to think of a good example..ill sleep on it and come back tomm. for anyone wondering but you are both correct just need to let the brain rest for a example lol |
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