The Big Brother State

Oh?

Show me an example of a well-established country that just all of a sudden became a police state.

Let's see... Cuba and Russia both became police states after a revolutionary war, most of the middle east has ALWAYS been dictatorships and absolute control...

When the people are set in their ways, you can't just take them over. Not without throwing their whole world into chaos first to give a reason for taking over.

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a police state isn't made after a country is well established and the people are set in their ways.

Ignorance is shining through brightly in those statements. Apparently history isn't one of your "gifted" subjects.

As for political and ethical wisdom, age STILL doesn't count for much, because as it is, many of the situations we're facing we've faced in the past, and the solutions we used back then didn't work.

We need NEW thinkers, not people who believe the same old bullsh*t.

On topic with the actual subject this arguement started with, if this country was going to become a police state, we'd already be one. There were many points in history where the government could have completely taken control, and taken away all of our freedoms. But they didn't.

As a 16-year-old, I'll argue a point I believe in for one of two purposes:

1) The other person may refute my argument successfully and I gain a new paradigm, am shown superior logic or am taught new information.

2) I am 100% sure I'm right.

A) Quite likely because "smart" people tend to avoid the word, especially saying it in that manner.

B) Classified as gifted since the age of 7 in the state of Ohio in the area's of Math, Science, Reading, and Writing, with a genius IQ.

Angsty?

Real world?

I'm not the paranoid f*cking moron who thinks the government's going to take over every aspect of my life.

Isn't this video attempting to accomplish the same thing it accuses the "Government" of?

A) I never said that I had any more faith in the government. I said that the way people automatically assume that everyone in power is going to turn corrupt is just as stupid as believeing that most "normal" people are "good."

Including this one, and the economic crisis we're in right now.

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I learned a LONG time ago not to have faith in my fellow man," because they're not worth it."

A. Faith in the government has gotten us into this economic crisis, not faith in the common man.

B. If you think your fellow man is so evil that he can not be trusted, what makes you think the men in the government are so much better? To quote Frederic Bastiat:

It's a case of "I think you're a moron, and you know I'm an idiot."

Ever heard of a Free Speech Zone?

"It WON'T TAKE AWAY EVERYTHING."

History shows that a government will take away your most basic rights if you let it.

"If you're smart enough, you can get around it all anyway."

Irrelevant. That's not what this is about and you know it.

"The only people that will actually suffer from much of this are the people that either

A) Do something illegal,

or

B)aren't smart enough to figure out a way around the system"

I didn't say full control.

"B) I called you all a bunch of hypocrites because you seem to think that people AREN'T evil, but power automatically MAKES them evil."

Great, now you're attacking straw men.

"C) Maybe you should present me a valid example of where giving someone power automatically makes them corrupt. I asked that first, and you seem to have doged the issue. Just like anyone of your type will. If you don't like the question, you never heard it."

Show me an example of where these rights have been taken away. I can still say whatever I want on here, can I not?

I'm still allowed to tell stories about getting a BJ from my GF over the phone, am I not?

I haven't gotten any blackmail letters from the government, even when I said the same things I normally do while on the watchlist.

It WON'T TAKE AWAY EVERYTHING. If you're smart enough, you can get around it all anyway. If you're not, well, learn to live with the system because the idiots have always been slaves anyway, whether they knew it or not.

The only people that will actually suffer from much of this are the people that either

A) Do something illegal,

or

A) I never SAID the government should have full control over us.

B) I called you all a bunch of hypocrites because you seem to think that people AREN'T evil, but power automatically MAKES them evil.

But people have a conscience, according to you a least.

You seem to have this idea that the constitution and human rights in general aren't important, as has been heavily implied by your posts, and by your complacency in allowing your rights and the rights of those around you to be stripped away.

Can you give a valid reason as to why the government should be allowed to own all of us and have such control over us, or are you going to keep whining about how evil everyone is and calling people hypocrites when they clearly aren't?

How many people in history have had power and stayed decent people?

How many could have led an army and destroyed entire nations, slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people, could have ordered an uprising... But didn't?

The quote, is bullsh*t, plain and simple, because there are hundreds of examples that can dis-prove it as easily as it can be proven.

Put a gun in a mans hands. That's giving him power, power to kill you and a number of people around him.

According to you and Mjustin, you would trust him NOT to pull the trigger. Because, as you said, you have "faith in your fellow man," and as Mjustin said, "most people aren't like that. The vast majority of people aren't being held back from killing others by a law; they're held back by their own conscience."

I MYSELF didn't call bullsh*t on the quote. This so called "conscience" called bullsh*t.