 LonelyStoner
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 15 Posts
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Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:25:30 PM
I believe in a "God" but religion should be kept out of ALL public schools for obvious reasons. But science is the more reliable source then some old book, but we still have no evident proof that there is no god cause it's impossible to know. I would teach from an agnostic view and bring up both creation and "Big Bang" to let the kids decide what's more plausible. |
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 Hyenafreak
Female, 18-29, Southern US
3 Posts
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Monday, December 29, 2008 10:59:47 PM
There is no scientific evidence of God. That's obvious, yeah?
Props, Australia. |
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 RebelSpeaker
Female, 13-17, Asia
49 Posts
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Monday, December 29, 2008 12:51:33 PM
I really don't think that they should bring things up like that in school, unless it's a private school or a church school.That can be considered racist, in a way, so it's stupid. |
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 Overmann
Male, 18-29, Southern US
3145 Posts
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Sunday, December 21, 2008 11:25:10 PM
"idk if this is true in its all entirety but i can't think about good or evil with out the notion of God."To you I would very strongly recommend reading 'The Selfish Gene' by Richard Dawkins. You may be intimidated or hesitant to read Dawkins, given his reputation, but in this book he doesn't venture so much into the question of God or atheistic rants, but more biology and how the inherent trait of our genes as 'selfish' can explain altruism, which ultimately is what morality is. |
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 unbwogable
Male, 18-29, Western US
426 Posts
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Sunday, December 21, 2008 5:11:34 PM
Whether or not there is or is not a God is NOT up to the school to decide and teach. If we aren't allowed to teach that there IS a God, why are we allowed to teach that there ISN'T a God? |
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 EVL_VLT
Male, 18-29, Australia
12 Posts
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Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:06:07 PM
At the end of the day why should children be taught something about a book that could have been written by anybody, about something supposedly someone did, and some miracles he supposadly amazed people with. There is no proff he ever existed, except a book that could have been written by anyone. Children should not be taught to believe in a fabricated piece of hope. Its 2008. not 1958. It should not be taught |
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 mollacins14
Female, 13-17, Midwest US
5 Posts
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Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:02:15 PM
Living in one of the most highly populated christian counties in my state this sounds crazy to me. Although i don't agree with some of the catholic political views, i do believe there has to be some sort of God. you can not prove or disprove god. like how you can not prove love. One of my religion teachers freshman year stated, you can not talk about good or evil without God or ending up with God. idk if this is true in its all entirety but i can't think about good or evil with out the notion of God. |
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Overmann
Male, 18-29, Southern US
3145 Posts
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Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:41:23 AM
"Respect everyone's opinion's and beliefs."I think a necessary distinction should be made between respecting a person, respecting their right to believe what they will, and respecting specifically their belief. It is perfectly reasonable to simultaneously respect the former two and not the latter third. Do I need to respect the idea that all people are descended from two individuals? Do I need to respect the idea that certain thoughts and *only* thoughts can condemn me to an eternity of punishment? Do I need to respect the idea that there is such a thing as a heaven modelled after our own atmosphere? Finally, do I need to respect the idea that I am to believe all of the above with a distinct lack of evidence? All of these are blatantly ridiculous notions and don't deserve to be respected in any rational society, and I should be free to think so as long as I'm not being a total jerk about it. I value honesty and criticism above all. |
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 Webz
Male, 18-29, Europe
222 Posts
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Sunday, December 21, 2008 5:37:35 AM
Like I've said before. Respect everyone's opinion's and beliefs. They have no right to teach that there is no God the same way they would have no right to teach that there is a God and not give athiest views. |
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 SpoonFork
Male, 30-39, Western US
1184 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:09:04 PM
Should we fight hunger? Genocide? AIDS? Nah, let's fight religious beliefs!Tards. |
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 gimysumlovin
Female, 13-17, Australia
237 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:04:30 PM
I live in Victoria and the optional religious education is taught in government primary schools. Private schools/catholic/christian usually teach it but there isn't anything at public high schools.
I presume this new class will be only for primary school kiddies in public schools, and they will still run religion as well.
Which isn't much, and knowing our culture I doubt many will care. Religion aint big here.
Still, I recon God should stay out of schools and they should teach more philosophy. |
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 Barbarossa69
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
165 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:54:16 PM
The people saying teaching this is as bad as teaching religion are a perfect example of why I'm agnostic, to be otherwise is presumptuous. |
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 undeadonion
Female, 18-29, Southern US
213 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:22:44 PM
Can you imagine the poostorm if it was in America? People still get their pretty pink panties in a wad about Harry Potter. |
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 opiebreath
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
14283 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:29:15 PM
In my anthropology class we learn why humans would believe in religion and that there's no evidence for it. I think the class subject should dictate the spirituality taught. In a religion class they need to be taught on a clean slate, so yeah, assuming there is no god. In a philosophy class that would be different.I also think that the culture of Australia allows for this to happen, but not necessarily in America. Religion is a strong part of our culture and a lot of families would be very upset at their children learning this. In some cultures, all the schools are religion based. Moon, did you even read the article? |
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 Moonsteal72
Female, 13-17, Western US
33 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 6:54:54 PM
Man, i'm an atheist and i think this is wrong. Schools should be totally neutral on the subject in my opinion. I do believe that they should still explain evolution, but explain that what the child wants to believe on the subject, or what the children's parents want them to believe is valid. it annoys me when people try to shove atheism or theism down people's throat, it's just as bad either way.~*xox*~ I kinda agree, kinda don't here. If they want to get involved in religion, they should at least provide classes for all the major different types of religions out there. Or at least supply a class that will cover them all - their strengths and downfalls, their history, their beliefs and how they're different from others. That would be a pretty interesting class that would keep learning and religion in balance, don't you think? |
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 Xutar
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
88 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 6:28:02 PM
I think this is fine because the whole idea of learning and education is pretty much the opposite of faith and religion. If the school does its job properly and teaches the kids rational thought process and logic skills, this would be inevitable. |
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 outfire
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
512 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:07:35 PM
Man, i'm an atheist and i think this is wrong. Schools should be totally neutral on the subject in my opinion. I do believe that they should still explain evolution, but explain that what the child wants to believe on the subject, or what the children's parents want them to believe is valid. it annoys me when people try to shove atheism or theism down people's throat, it's just as bad either way. |
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 airsofter1
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
877 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 4:46:45 PM
religion shouldn't be in schools either and that includes wearing a sheet on your head. really lths i cant wear a cross but she can wear a sheet on her head in a no hats building? wtf?! i'm wearing my bomber hat which everyone at school gets pissed about cuz its real fur. |
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 kiteman53
Male, 18-29, Canada
6 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 4:46:08 PM
I didn't realize this kinda thing was still that big a deal outside of the U.S. Going to a Canadian Catholic high school, we had courses which presented evidence for and against God. |
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airsofter1
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
877 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 4:44:29 PM
how can atheism be a subject? @Sir Kevin i dont think that will work. people need to go to school and public schools are the cheapest (inderectly) option. i dont understand how they will actually teach this either, there is no god, look evolution, we have proof. u can just say god started the big bang and if they come up for wutever started the big bang religous people can just say god started that and there is no way that you can prove that he didn't or that he (or she, prob doesn't have a sex) doesnt exist. |
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 Canine
Male, 13-17, Western US
196 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 4:43:20 PM
Schools teaching this is just as bad as them teaching that god is real. Leave that to the parents. |
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 yoimmylene
Female, 13-17, Midwest US
2058 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 4:27:29 PM
I'm against this type of thing. |
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Overmann
Male, 18-29, Southern US
3145 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 4:05:56 PM
"www.godandscience.org/answers"LKJSlain, how many times must you post that URL? You don't bother returning to defend any criticisms against it and to me that suggests you don't really care whether it offers any good, sound arguments but rather that your aim is to lure as many gulligble people to it as you possibly can. All around a cheap tactic that doesn't reflect well on you. |
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 LKJSlain
Female, 18-29, Western US
649 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 3:43:13 PM
www.godandscience.org/answers |
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 Red5TheFinn
Male, 13-17, Canada
1625 Posts
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Saturday, December 20, 2008 3:26:52 PM
Well, as much as I wish everyone was an atheist, schools should strictly stick to the main subjects, Mathematics, LA, Science and Social. Religious or ANTI-Religious things should be left for the child to decide. It's just as bad as schools shoving Christian propaganda down a child's throat. |
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