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Islamists Murder Children for Attending School

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Dakkar
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1091 Posts
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:14:37 PM
There are still American interests at stake. Everyone hates a preemptive strike but in many situations it is the right call.

I see Iraq not as a failed mission but currently incomplete. Setting up a forward position in a hotbox like the ME has great strategic value. And of course we'd want to set up a friendly (democratic) government so they let us build bases.

People can criminalize Bush for invading without WMDs and purely for his oil interests, the latter I see as quite unfounded. But if our presence in Iraq helps preempt a problem that could rage out of control, i.e. Israel and Iran over nukes, he may be written in the history texts as a great President.


Vagrant86
Male, 18-29, Western US
 2556 Posts
Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:25:44 PM
did u go to school today hunnie?

yes?

*BANG*


Dakkar
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1091 Posts
Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:26:03 AM
There are still American interests at stake. Everyone hates a preemptive strike but in many situations it is the right call.

I see Iraq not as a failed mission but currently incomplete. Setting up a forward position in a hotbox like the ME has great strategic value. And of course we'd want to set up a friendly (democratic) government so they let us build bases.

People can criminalize Bush for invading without WMDs and purely for his oil interests, the latter I see as quite unfounded. But if our presence in Iraq helps preempt a problem that could rage out of control, i.e. Israel and Iran over nukes, he may be written in the history texts as a great President.


RedBrother
Male, 18-29, Europe
 134 Posts
Friday, December 12, 2008 9:01:28 PM
i've just been "informed" via angry e-mail that it should be posted here because people feel strongly about the subject. If one felt so strongly about the contenct/subject then they would already be aware of the article. Moot

RedBrother
Male, 18-29, Europe
 134 Posts
Friday, December 12, 2008 8:58:27 PM
this was on al jazeera. why post it? religion kills.

s0rd3dvis1on
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2005 Posts
Friday, December 12, 2008 6:24:24 PM
I realise this is triple post but i just reffered to someone by their middle name. That Muhammed Atmar Haneef.

s0rd3dvis1on
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2005 Posts
Friday, December 12, 2008 6:23:21 PM
sorry that Haneef person

s0rd3dvis1on
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2005 Posts
Friday, December 12, 2008 6:22:30 PM
that Mohammed person has worked very hard o hide he accent. Makes me feel sad that thats the only way he will be taken seriously.

manorrd
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2767 Posts
Friday, December 12, 2008 2:32:39 AM
Thinking is a crime in all religions? Why, we have an expert on World Religion here.

That's crap, btw..

\/ \/ \/ \/


TheWood
Male, 30-39, Europe
 209 Posts
Friday, December 12, 2008 2:27:55 AM
Here goes the story of mankind... where thinking is a crime. The sad thing is that the same state of mind is present in every freaking religions, including Christianity.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1451 Posts
Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:44:35 PM
"angilion, just to play devils-advocate

Do you support adultery, and sex outside marriage? (I wont do homosexuality since that is another debate)"

In order to properly play Devil's advocate, your questions should have some relevance to my line of argument. Those don't, because *objecting to torturing people to death for something does not in any way imply support for that something.*

I am going to emphasise that again, because it's a very important point and left unchecked will completely sidetrack my original post.

I am opposed to torturing people, and even more opposed to torturing people to death, for adultery, sex outside marriage and homosexuality. Or anything else, but those are important in this context because Islam *requires* torture and slaughter for those things. The most "moderate" Muslim might argue that "only" torturing and maiming is required, something which "only" might kill the victim.

This is the truth - check it f


Turnshroud
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 5353 Posts
Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:23:54 PM
Amaq, I must agree.

I stumbled across a passage not long ago. Basically it says what any cleric will tell you, interpretation should be left for those that are learned…or something oif the like.

Of course there is many a corrupt cleric in Islam…most.

Murphy, I think I may have stumbled across that book. I’ll be sure to read it

Also, I have stated in the past that Christianity was wrong for editing their Bible time and time again. I think I should restate this by saying that not to do so is wrong as well.

There was a time when the Middle East was filled with inspiration and ideas, but now only ruins remain.


caboose117
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 1188 Posts
Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:59:40 PM
"I beg to differ. Last time I checked, there weren't a lot of radical groups of Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. going around bombing buildings, shooting up public places and killing children. "

There are things like this that do happen, Christian groups near the middle east do bombings, those Soviet athiests have probably done bombings as well, and for the Jews, read the Old Testament.

No matter where you look, there will always be corruption and extremism.


caboose117
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 1188 Posts
Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:58:30 PM
"
Indicative of the corrupted view extremism takes on any religion."

I think it's indicative of the corrupted view extremism takes on any philosophy in general.
It's not all about religion, it never is, even things like the crusades had very large social and economic factors. The religion was more of an excuse for most the crusades.

"
ALL religion is inherently flawed."

As long as we don't know everything, anything we believe in can be flawed. cept maybe math.


scoreJ6
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 54 Posts
Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:20:56 AM
Indicative of the corrupted view extremism takes on any religion.

bungled
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 247 Posts
Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:21:00 AM
I blame religion for all the problems in the world.

Overmann
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 3145 Posts
Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:58:14 AM
Baalthazaq, you may want to rethink your strategy when instead of denouncing these indefensible criminal acts as the barbarism that they are, you point out similarly criminal acts having occured in the countries in which the critics live in an effort to suggest they're perhaps close-minded or insular. You needn't feel compelled to defend Islam against such criticism in order to be a good Muslim. One might say you have an obligation, if you care at all how Islam is perceived by Western society, to denounce such acts and to morally distance yourself whenever and however possible.

Sable_smiles
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 16 Posts
Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:42:22 AM
ALL religion is inherently flawed.

manorrd
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2767 Posts
Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:21:01 AM
Baalthazaq:

The point is that these people are going around murdering and justifying it in the name of their holy texts


pat125
Male, 18-29, Western US
 744 Posts
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:53:36 PM
People always put fourth the argument that "terrorists aren't Muslims, they're simply "bad apples" that act on their own accord".

I beg to differ. Last time I checked, there weren't a lot of radical groups of Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. going around bombing buildings, shooting up public places and killing children.

While I'm not doubting that there are many peaceful Muslims out there (I know a few personally), the religion is inherently flawed in the freedom it gives its followers to resort to violence.


d_katman
Male, 13-17, Western US
 1790 Posts
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:47:47 PM
did this actually say anything about the qoran directly influencing?
if you ask me this is a poorly compiled news segment. they don't explain how the thing at the end ties in with the shootings. they talk about western teachings. but were the schools teaching 'western teachings'? were the teachers dressed like skanks? Is it hatred for education or the education system in use?

primetimekin
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 7864 Posts
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:33:10 PM
angilion, just to play devils-advocate

Do you support adultery, and sex outside marriage? (I wont do homosexuality since that is another debate)


Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1451 Posts
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:03:53 PM
Here's a question that might prove illuminating to those who think that Islam is about peace, or that it is moderate:

Is there a Muslim here who will voice an objection to prolonged bloody torture by whipping, perhaps to death, of people who have done these things?

i) Adultery
ii) Sex outside of marriage
iii) Homosexual sex.

It's a trick question - Muslims are *required* to support it. It's a command from God, if you're a Muslim. 100 lashes, no mercy. Direct order from God, right there in the Qu'ran. Absolutely mandatory, no objection allowed.

Moderate? If you have the stomach for it, you can see videos of this torture online. It is not moderate by any sane definition of the word.

Muslims can't really cherry-pick from the Qu'ran, because it's an article of faith that it is literally the word of God.


Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1451 Posts
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:58:55 PM
The learning of ancient Greece was initially preserved *before Islam existed*. Same area, but not the religion.

turtledude
Male, 18-29, Western US
 70 Posts
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:48:11 PM
This is why.

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