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From Conception To Birth

Hits: 8075 | Rating: (2.8) | Category: Science | Added by: eugenius
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Link_Hiei
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2210 Posts
Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:46:33 AM
I have to go with Ruswut on this. Imagine being in your teens and getting raped. Yea raped. Your telling me the kid should keep it? Don't tell me you can put them in a foster home. There's a poo load of kids in there already who need to be helped. Imagine growing up as a child and realising(sp) you were basically a nice big mistake. I'd say abortion should be allowed for certain situations like that. Think about when animals are suffering and we put them down so they won't suffer. Would you want more kids like that suffering around the world?

SoMeMeXiCaN
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 145 Posts
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:57:37 PM
yes, crimsonwarmt... but where in the constitution does it say that its not ok to kill innocent children...hmmmm?

crimsonwarmt
Female, 18-29, Western US
 4 Posts
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:16:43 AM
one question, is it or is it not ok to murder? it isnt right? what do you think abortion is? MURDER. its simple, M-U-R-D-E-R you are KILLING a baby, its not called aboriton its called MURDER. and where in the consititution does it say its ok to murder innocent children? no where. i rest my case

Overmann
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 3145 Posts
Monday, October 20, 2008 10:35:39 PM
"Also, I believe the reason people do not understand why abortion is viewed as wrong by some is a lack of awe at the marvel that is life."

Completely wrong, bud. I fully appreciate the improbability of being born, let alone the improbability of life even existing. Probably more so than you. I'm not suggesting life and conception is trivial, I just happen to believe that the ability to end a pregnancy should be a legal option for mothers in our day and age. The alternative is more horrible.

A lot of pro-life people seem to be having some moral issue with the actual killing and are making that their main argument. I don't particularly enjoy that fetuses are terminated, either, but I don't have to in order to be pro-choice. If a woman feels compelled to end a pregnancy, it's her body! Who are you to impose a moral sanction on their being?


pomokey
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 34 Posts
Monday, October 20, 2008 3:12:27 PM
Just to clear up a misconception, the heart starts beating abotu 21 days after conception, not 12 weeks.

Also, I believe the reason people do not understand why abortion is viewed as wrong by some is a lack of awe at the marvel that is life.

You have a better chance at winning the lottery every day for the rest of your life, than you did at being born. The fact that you are even here and reading this is mind boggling. Life is so rare and so precious, that it should be protected at all costs.

People have lost all respect for what is precious, and assume that an individual is just another human. You are not just another human. You are unique, and you have value because you exist. No one should have the right to remove that value.


Ruswut
Male, 18-29, Europe
 799 Posts
Monday, October 20, 2008 2:57:13 PM
Just a quick question now i read down the comments, if you got raped britt would you keep the baby? If yes what if the rapist was a close relative? If still yes what if the baby is going to be disabled? Still not convinced how about if you get a terminal disease that means you won't be around to look after the baby? Extreme yes, but if you had the child on the basis of every life in precious can you really claim and inbred disabled parentless child is going to want to live?

Ruswut
Male, 18-29, Europe
 799 Posts
Monday, October 20, 2008 2:52:41 PM
I think abortions should be mandatory..... Nah not really, I just thought I'd put an extreme idea out thier first before pulling it back to a rational pro-choice belief.

But to be honest before 8 weeks that thing looks like something from alien o.O...


airsofter1
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 877 Posts
Monday, October 20, 2008 2:31:48 PM
ok ok. heres an abortion comment. did anyone notice that the same people who want to save the trees which are clumps of cells want to kill babies which they call clumps of cells. a little ironic don't u think?

skyblue_15
Female, 13-17, Southern US
 167 Posts
Monday, October 20, 2008 2:03:39 PM
And here come the abortion comments.....

Overmann
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 3145 Posts
Monday, October 20, 2008 1:41:39 PM
"so just because a fetus doesn't feel pain it's ok to kill it?"

Not just because. I think she was arguing that complaining about the fetus feeling pain at all times a fetus is usually aborted is a non-argument. It's preferable to kill it than for a pregnancy to be on-going under physical or emotional duress. And before you try and spin that, I don't agree with abortions done out of sheer convenience - I frown on that. But overall, it should be a woman's choice to end a pregnancy she is having. As GothicQueen has tried to point out, this is better than illegalizing the practice altogether.

"Back alley abortions are gruesome"

Any abortion is gruesome. I don't have to like it in order to prefer it to be legal.


BoNe_Juggalo
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
 347 Posts
Monday, October 20, 2008 1:18:05 PM
Not the thing to watch when your eating Balut.

ChainsawNbud
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 294 Posts
Monday, October 20, 2008 12:53:01 PM
that song in the background is "Somethin' In My Coochie" by the Riyadh Players.

Vagrant86
Male, 18-29, Western US
 2556 Posts
Monday, October 20, 2008 9:15:38 AM
omg 0:52 scared the crap out of me

newlife
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 244 Posts
Monday, October 20, 2008 8:03:55 AM
WHATS WITH THE TOWELHEAD MUSIC?

alice_x
Female, 18-29, Europe
 5227 Posts
Monday, October 20, 2008 5:28:29 AM
saying that...as ive already said before, its not something i could do.
and i disagree with the way some women go about it... and use it as a contraceptive. which is just...wrong.

alice_x
Female, 18-29, Europe
 5227 Posts
Monday, October 20, 2008 5:27:19 AM
The fact is, and it is a fact because abortions were illegal once upon a time...

if abortions are made illegal, they will still occur...just, not under supervision, and putting the mother life at risk also.
Back alley abortions are gruesome, but some women become desperate.
abortions should always be kept legal simply because of that, not every foetus is wanted... and each human being, being the mother or father should have their own say, and it should be their choice, and noone elses.


GothicQueen
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 3434 Posts
Monday, October 20, 2008 3:40:43 AM
V I never said you had to share my belief I was just stating my own. I could care less whether you believe in a soul or God or anything for that matter. But I'm still always going to be pro-choice and abortion will always be legal. Deal with it.

sixclaws13
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2308 Posts
Sunday, October 19, 2008 10:36:39 PM
GothicQueen, so just because a fetus doesn't feel pain it's ok to kill it? If someone is murdered in their sleep they won't feel it, so is that acceptable?

"and it is just a lump of cells. Sorry. The soul doesn't even enter until after birth."

Good to know you've unlocked one of the great mysteries of the universe.


Apple_18
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 464 Posts
Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:31:27 PM
...babies open theyre eyes in there? how would they not get ..goo?... in theyre eyes?

GothicQueen
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 3434 Posts
Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:23:38 PM
Mine was done at 6

GothicQueen
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 3434 Posts
Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:20:54 PM
oh and FYI a fetus doesn't even FEEL pain until about the 20-28th week of gestation and by that time most abortions have already been done unless there was some serious circumstance done otherwise.

Again do your research before you try to validate a point.


GothicQueen
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 3434 Posts
Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:18:26 PM
I guess Im no woman then Britt

I also forgot to add the fact that if abortion is illegal women will STILL try to have abortions anyway and will look for other ways to rid themselves of the pregnancy. And believe me those ways aren't very safe at all. At least with abortions legal they can have it done safely in a medical environment by people who know what their doing insteaod of swalloing cyanide and sticking knifes inside them to do it themself. So if you think abortions should be illegal wow...you really have put no thought of the consequences.


sgdp
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 604 Posts
Sunday, October 19, 2008 6:29:43 PM
d_katman: It's not music, per sé. It's the reading of the Qu'ran. It has an accent, and I find it very soothing.

britt566: "Also if the woman doesn't want the baby and it was a mistake of getting pregnant then MAYBE she shouldn't have been HAVING SEX.... just saying..."
You didn't address rape. What if they didn't choose to have sex?


Overmann
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 3145 Posts
Sunday, October 19, 2008 6:18:25 PM
"Also if the woman doesn't want the baby and it was a mistake of getting pregnant then MAYBE she shouldn't have been HAVING SEX.... just saying..."
So, you're saying the notion of some irresponsible people having abortions should illegalize the act for more responsible people placed in situations in which it could be deemed necessary? I don't see it.

"Any woman who will abort her baby is NO woman in my book."

How fortuitous, then, that no medical doctors follow your book.

"So you are saying it is right to just kill the baby while its still in the mother."

She wasn't arguing right or wrong, ditz. You don't have to agree with the practice or the idea, but don't deny that right to other people. God, what's wrong with religious folks always wanting to impose on the freedoms of other people? You're not scoring points with anyone.


sixclaws13
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2308 Posts
Sunday, October 19, 2008 6:01:13 PM
So GothicQueen, we can pretty much sum up your point by saying if a child might not have an ideal life, just kill it?

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