Japanese Water Car

You may have ridden in something you *thought* was a water-powered car, like the Genepax one.

If it worked, someone would be able to explain how.

No-one can.

Because it doesn't work.

I think scamming people is *not* a good idea. So I explain why.

Bashing? Rubbish. I'm just not falling for an obvious scam.

I'm listening if you have any explanation as to (a) how it could possibly work and (b) why on earth someone eho invented a device to produce large amounts of electricity from seawater, or anything watery, without any pollution would be trying to sell it to car companies rather than becoming an international hero and the richest person in the world by selling it as a power station.

One is that you can use water to make an additive to your existing engine to reduce your fuel consumption to a quarter (not by a quarter - you misread that too).

The other is that you can have an engine powered by water.

Say, for example, I claimed to be able to summon tiny glowing pixies.

I have a magic box that they can live in. This is my invention - it's an extension of the pixies' universe/plane of existence into our own.

I show you an LCD televsion set with my magic box attached to the back and say that the light inside the TV comes from the tiny glowing pixies, rather than the usual flourescent tube.

So,,,Telzenm Kissmark...would you consider that TV proof of my claim to have invented a magic box that allows the tiny glowing pixies to live in out universe? Without seeing the pixies or any evidence that they exist?

That's like what you're doing when you say you've seen an electric car working and consider that proof that the Secret Technology Box inside it is doing what it's claimed to be doing even though there's no evidence that it is and plenty of evidence that it can't.

Would you two like to buy the White House? I'm selling it. I can show you a video proving it's real if you like.

You two have seen an electric car running.

No-one is denying that electric cars exist.

You have not seen how their Secret Technology Electricity Making Box works, and that's their product.

ecp, you have no idea... I'm a PhD geologist, and I have to deal with this kind of f*cking idiocy every day, hence my pissed-off rant on page 2.

Example, ages ago there was a post on how continental drift was wrong and the earth was growing. http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=25828

You'd be amazed how many people jumped on the bandwagon with that video, despite the fact that it was made by a crackpot ex-comic book illustrator and cartoonist, who's decided to start playing science in his senile-dementia-ridden retirement.

They aren't slang women. They aren't women at all. They are words. What's a slang woman, anyway?

Then they sell it to every country with a coast or a large river or a large lake, solving the world's energy problems, allegedly stop global warming, because worldwide heroes and the richest people on the planet.

So yeah, of course they'd try to get a car company interested instead.

Forget the car. That's just a standard car retrofitted with an electric motor. Nothing new.

The key part is the Secret Technology Box that allegedly generates electricity from water alone, even highly impure water, without any pollution.

The inventors of this wondrous device can't get any money for it, so they're trying to persuade a car company to buy into it in some way, and they're not succeeding.

Drivel.

Nobody is claming perpetual motion here, it's basics thermodynamics to know that the battery's energy will be drained the same way it is drained in a gasoline engine.. the question is not if you "do" lose energy in the process .. the question is how much .. "

SageLudwig: The claim is that there isn't a battery in the car at all, that the electricity for the motor is generated by the Secret Technology box in the car.

He just put the title in the form of a question and add the word "rubbish" and people throw cash at the guy.

Wow."

There is no engine to test. There is a PC-sized box that supposedly does the impossible. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, to suggest that is what actually happens. Genepax's claim would be more plausible if they claimed that it was alien technology or magic. Or if they provided any evidence at all that it works. What we've seen is a car powered by an electric motor - nothing new there. We appear to have probably seen a fuel cell generating the electricty - nothing new there, either. We might be seeing the fuel cell supplied with hydrogen by using a metal hydride and water - nothing new there, either.

But that's not a water-powered car. It can't work in the way some people think it does.

Nobody is claming perpetual motion here, it's basics thermodynamics to know that the battery's energy will be drained the same way it is drained in a gasoline engine.. the question is not if you "do" lose energy in the process .. the question is how much ..

And as far as that goes, nobody here can proof OR disproof that the water engine WORKS .. the same way a fuel engine do, within the thermodynamics law.

Nidonemo: You have, probably unknowingly, stated that someone can fundamentally change the way the universe works in the same amount it takes to write a short article.

Because that is what is required to make this work in the way that gullible people think it works - a fundamental change to the way the universe works. You may as well ask why someone doesn't spend half an hour building a magic box from cardboard and string that contains an endless supply of whatever food and drink they want.