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 OrangeCrow
Female, 18-29, Western US
 930 Posts
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Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:03:48 AM
I learned it's because people always assume that another person is going to take action, so they won't do anything. People need to always step up and be the one to take action, even if it seems like the person is being helped by another person. |
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 Scotchy
Male, 18-29, Western US
497 Posts
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Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:40:14 AM
My father is a police officer and I was kind of raised to help those that need it so when I see something wrong I have a tendency to do something. Because of that I see more of this happening as i am more observant. I have to admit though, nearly every occasion when im last on the scene, I do make the remark of "What the F$&% is wrong with you people?!" then they meander off or say something to the effect of "I didn't see anyone else helping." The truth is, 90% of people are followers, and are just simply afraid of taking charge, but it is how you were trained, it is how you are. You can't change your nature, I was raised otherwise to do something, whereas most of you weren't, even if I do get a little angry, you can't help what you all are. |
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 FixTheYellow
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
193 Posts
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Monday, July 14, 2008 2:08:30 PM
The music was a bit loud in the beginning... Nice Joseph poster, Professor Edwin. Liked the "Shoot them. Put 'em out of my misery!" answer. ... Til the younger guy said it again. ><; Uhm. What did he do? Just.... lay down? Wish they would've shown what they did to end up on the floor... |
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 AFTERSHOCK
Male, 18-29, Western US
2480 Posts
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Sunday, July 13, 2008 3:20:11 PM
INTERESTING... GONNA HAVE TO TAKE A FEW PSYKE CLASSES |
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 elkingo
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1202 Posts
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Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:36:06 AM
"Friday, July 11, 2008 9:01:30 PM
Just shows how people are concerned about being singled out in a group of strangers. At least, that's why I think it happens.
In my area a girl who goes to my school was punched by some douche in the subway. He was like "go back to Iraq" because she was wearing a headdress. And he got off the train, and nobody did anything.
...she was Egyptian."Apparently including you.
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 Nath2k8
Male, 18-29, Europe
222 Posts
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Sunday, July 13, 2008 4:28:03 AM
hey edwim what was up with the music :O |
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 EdwinMango
Female, 13-17, Southern US
221 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:34:46 PM
The music, dramatic voices, bad sound, biased interviews, and bad camera work ruined it for me. Also, if I saw someone lying like that in a mall I would assume it's just some idiot there with his/her friends trying to pull a prank and get wierd looks, not someone hurt. The fact that people don't help really bothers me. I just don't understand how you can walk past someone who needs assistance. I did the same as nightmystic, except I help a woman find her lost boy. I do understand the danger factor though. As a young girl, I wouldn't help an older man unless it seemed urgent and was in a public place, not that that really matters seeing as according to this, no one would help me escape him. |
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 d0wnward
Female, 18-29, Canada
60 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:11:18 PM
im pretty sure the answer is much more simple, people are dicks,
thats about all
oh, and cowards |
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 duckinfuh
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
822 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:42:20 PM
did... did he refer to "sitting on a bench and people watching" as "googling"?i didn't continue much past that part... |
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 richmass
Male, 13-17, Western US
147 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:17:37 PM
I like how the second guy they asked said shoot them without blinking |
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 RyanF701
Male, 18-29, Western US
2244 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:57:41 PM
That guys voice was really annoying.He's talking all quietly and then all of a sudden SHOCKING IMAGES!!!!! |
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Night_Mystic
Female, 18-29, Canada
65 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:31:28 PM
p.s. a more recent example of the bystander effect is when ther one man stomped the toddler to death in front of people. |
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Night_Mystic
Female, 18-29, Canada
65 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:26:03 PM
No one will step up because they expect others to, or sometimes they just oblivious to their surroundings even to the point they don't see the person in need, which isn't the case in the video. I know I am the kind that will step up, depending on the situation. On Canada Day, my bf and I with our baby boy were walking a pretty crowded market when I spotted a little boy running around and crying for his mom, and it was like "DING DING Lost Kid! Do something!" I tried to get my bf to stop so we can help the boy, but he didn't listen to me and kept on going with my son, and I actually had to run over and stop him in order to grab his attention, but by the time I did that I couldn't find the boy anymore. |
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Nath2k8
Male, 18-29, Europe
222 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:35:05 AM
Oh nevermind just remembered is Death blooms by mudvayne |
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Nath2k8
Male, 18-29, Europe
222 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:32:06 AM
Whats the name of the song at the very start, havnt heard it in ages and forgot :( |
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 primetimekin
Male, 18-29, Southern US
7864 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:21:19 AM
That happened to me once. Someone got his foot caught in the fence and I just stayed there frozen. Since then I normally go and help |
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 Aqua_Bird
Female, 13-17, Europe
538 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:49:54 AM
If I saw people lying on the floor, seemingly unhurt, in a busy shopping centre I'd just think they were either pissed out of their heads or narcoleptic.It's hard to say whether I would help or not. Too many variables.
I did once help a wood pigeon though 
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 kairobert
Male, 13-17, Europe
1149 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:00:32 AM
I am glad I have some of the characteristics of a sociopath. I am almost unaffected by emotion and social instinct and act rationally in any situation. |
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kairobert
Male, 13-17, Europe
1149 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:52:19 AM
Didn't like that music played in the background when he was narrating. Couldn't hear anything. |
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 splurbyburbl
Male, 18-29, Southern US
834 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:25:34 AM
Pilanus is correct. If say a person is choking and are still aware, you must first ask them permission to help them and get concent, otherwise you could be sued.On another note, in Jacksonville Florida I was walking up to a mall entrance. There was a sizeable group gathered around all watching this dude have a violent seizure. Nobody did anything. Being Militray trained and only 19 years old I went up there and scolded all of them (all older than me) and told two of them to help me turn him on his side so he doesnt drown in his own fluids. Then I pried open his jaws and told some older black woman to clear his tongues from his throat just in case but to be careful not to get her finger bitten off. After the poor guy was able to breathe again he caughed up some pretty nasty stuff including blood. Most people are afraid of this too because they fear diseases, etc. and rightly so! |
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 steve41high
Male, 18-29, Europe
674 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:58:56 AM
bystander apathy n all that.*shudder* had to learn this stuff for part of me A-level in psychology. funnnn |
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 ibetam
Male, 18-29, Europe
51 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:33:11 AM
load of bull, psychology is the only area i have in depth knowledge in and social psychology has been my greatest study (people are fascinating, reason enough) 1 star for this horsesh*t |
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 xdonutx
Female, 13-17, Midwest US
1191 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:24:13 AM
Well, I think before you went to help someone, that you would determine whether they were really hurt or just faking it/sleeping/whatever. In a situation where it is just you, you don't know if someone else had walked by, and determined that the person lying on the floor was perfectly fine but just passed out. But if you are with a group, you look to see if anyone else who was already at the scene would agree and think that this person really needs help. If no one is helping in that sort of situation, you just assume that that person probably doesn't need help. It is different if you saw them hurt themselves, then you know that they really do need help. Also, as a teenage girl, I'd be wary of helping say, an adult male who could be dangerous. Granted, I'd probably call 911 and go get someone who could help better than I could, but I'm going to try to keep myself out of potentially dangerous situations. |
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 LADT25
Female, 18-29, Europe
17 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 4:43:32 AM
Kitty Genovese was a bit different though because the witnesses didn't know if anyone else was helping her and would have assumed someone else would - known as diffusion of responsibility.
The people here, and the people in the Piliavin experiment (above) could see if anyone else helped, and they could be seen not helping.
The cost-reward thing isn't quite like that. It's more like a balance. The cost of helping what appears to be a drunk person would be your safety, time and effort but the reward would be a good feeling - if the cost outweighs the reward then people tend not to help and vice versa. Apparently we think about this before helping someone. |
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 goregina
Female, 18-29, Europe
68 Posts
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Saturday, July 12, 2008 3:59:53 AM
this was originally done by piliavin in 1969, and he found that people are more likely to help someone if they look disabled rather than drunk. its based on a cost-reward theory, eg the cost of helping a drunk is the reward of being embarassed, or the cost of not helping a disabled person is the reward of feeling guilty.... |
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