Pandasims Female, 18-29, Europe
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Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:31:19 AM lol@tania |
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itsallfake Male, 30-39, Eastern US
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Monday, June 30, 2008 10:28:31 AM So this might be a couple of people trying to start some viral video rumors, but i can see the wheels turning. The "metering" of net usage by time warner is a good example of subtle changes toward that ultimate goal. After all, we are willing to pay $5.00/gal for gas, you think we intercrack addicts mind paying for access? Next step? Access to mainstream search engines and mainstream media sites won't count towards your metered quota. After that? Tiered pricing where access to mainstream media/search engines are still free, access to national websites price A, access to international sites, price B. After that? National Proxy Filters, Sites like mininova will be filtered out and redirected to godaddy.com or some crap. Then the eventual packge and tiered programs will be placed in and you won't even know what it was like with free unlimited access to any and all sites... |
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itsallfake Male, 30-39, Eastern US
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Monday, June 30, 2008 10:18:46 AM So they know how to get the sheep to obediently follow along. Look at the government. How many of the freedoms we never appreciated are missing now? How many do you even notice being gone? Have you changed the way you talk on the phone even though you know the government is illegaly recording every conversation? How about our right to peacefull assembly? Do you find it strange that to put on a show/demonstration/parade requires a permit that you must pay for? How about starting a private members club? Ever wonder what it now takes to start a club that holds meetings? Or do you not try and think about it? |
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itsallfake Male, 30-39, Eastern US
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Monday, June 30, 2008 10:14:41 AM I know im commenting on this WAY late, but here is something you might not be factoring in. Based on the comments posted here, most of your are assuming that this will be some sort of light switch. Flick, suddenly ISPs change their format. In that scenerio you would be right, there would be mass uprising. But companies aren't that stupid, in fact, they are exactly the opposite. Companies hire marketing geniusses that know it takes a couple of years worth of slow changes and marketing projects to pull off a complete paradigm shift. A good example of slow market paradigm shift would be iTunes. Yes people still download mp3s for free, but your mainstream sheep all own an iPod and all pay for music on iTunes. Apple successfully turned the mainstream sheep away from "illegal" downloads and towards a profitable venture. |
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chary Female, 13-17, Europe
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Friday, June 27, 2008 1:34:33 AM This vid better be fake... and if it isn't... Anonymous would never let it happen. There better be a rebel uprising of the internet against the companies -.-
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Ellizabeth Female, 13-17, Eastern US
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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:51:15 PM *ehem* The Mayans also believed they were made out of corn.NO ONE NOT EVEN THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN know when God will decide when we will go home. :) |
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Dante16X Male, 13-17, Midwest US
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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:17:30 AM No company in their right mind would agree to a contract like that. Tons of people only go to small sites. If they had to pay extra they would stop using the internet altogether. Because of all the people that would cancel their internet the company would LOSE money. |
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gcamaro32 Male, 18-29, Western US
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Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:30:55 PM Get real you idiots...this will not happen... |
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playdead321 Female, 18-29, Europe
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Sunday, June 08, 2008 2:07:10 PM @pooptart19 exactly! thats stupid (if this vid is true) that they would do such a thing...it wouldnt work overall because millions of people would be outraged and no one would support it except the few rich people out there.
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phasoo Male, 18-29, Western US
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Saturday, June 07, 2008 12:46:05 AM all companies in on this? it won't work in the U.S.: Shermen Anti-Trust Act, it keeps similar companies from banding together. |
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coranthulle Male, 30-39, Western US
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Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:27:25 PM Its possible. |
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Verymad Male, 13-17, Europe
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Thursday, June 05, 2008 11:00:34 AM Will IAB stop? |
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coranthulle Male, 30-39, Western US
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Wednesday, June 04, 2008 5:42:41 PM Now big business wants to take it out of our proven capable hands, and begin regulating how we use it. The audacity of these fat men in 1000 dollar suits is astounding. If this outrages you, and it should, then I ask that you do something more than stand by and complain. Write, call, or visit your senators, congressmen, and statesmen. All can be done using the very thing we are fighting for. I have found this link http://www.savetheinternet.com to be very helpfull in doing just that. You can sign petitions, look up your representatives addresses, and keep in the know of developments. Dont go on uneducated in this matter. Its important to you and your future. |
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coranthulle Male, 30-39, Western US
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Wednesday, June 04, 2008 5:38:33 PM Then came television. Same thing as radio really so the FCC already had their grubby little hands waiting for the big bucks to come in television frequency liscensing. And the only people that could afford this exhorbitant fee for both the equipment and liscense, were companies already in the business of broadcasting. So we only get what they wanted us to see, it was true then and its true now. So we found a medium now that was unregulated and unfettered with censorship. A veritable open forum of sorts, that allowed all an equal and unrestricted voice to vent their opinions and frustrations. As well as sharing of data that would normally be inaccessible to some. Then big business also found useful ways of employing this medium to better life not only for them but everyone else. The internet has been the single most productive invention in the history of man with the lone exception of fire. |
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coranthulle Male, 30-39, Western US
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Wednesday, June 04, 2008 5:30:55 PM Yes thats right, we built the internet into what it is now. Sure it was started with some college geeks in libraries, but it wouldnt be what it is now if we the people had not latched onto its possiblities and exploited them to the ends they were ultimately ment for. Same happend with radio, and subsequently television. When Marconi and Tesla first sent and recieved their signals, it was the beginning of something grand and beautiful. A generation later and people anywhere could hoist up an antenna and broadcast a signal that others could listen to. A generation after that, fledgling corporate america decided that the radio was something that could be exploited. Around the same time US govt. decided this medium needed standardization and in the process found a buck or two that could be made in that process through "liscence" fees. |
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coranthulle Male, 30-39, Western US
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Wednesday, June 04, 2008 5:26:32 PM @double L7> Hence the idea that the net as we know it will fall by that time. The 2012 date is simpley coincidental and arbitrary. It all depends on how long it takes to pass the laws that will defeat net neutrality. So long as key members or congress keep batting it down Net Neutrality will ensue. What really needs to happen is to enact legislation that will seal Net Neutrality in an Iron Clad law. Something that cant be repealed, overwritten, or worked around. Then we can all breath a sigh of relief. This isnt so much a battle for free speech or the ideal of free exchange so much as it is fighting back at corporate america and standing up for something we the people built. |
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Tetramino Male, 13-17, Midwest US
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Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:06:00 PM This has to be stopped. The internet is the last place that people can freely exchange information across the world. Net Neutrality must prevail! |
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DOUBLE_L7 Male, 18-29, Canada
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Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:54:13 PM Why would anyone want to subscribe to the internet if they only get to view mainstream sites. The only reason I have my net connection is to look at stupid videos and porn. With out those I wouldn't bother with the net. |
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damokiwi Male, 40-49, Europe
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Tuesday, June 03, 2008 3:27:33 PM There'll be a new link tomorrow debunking this rubbish. They're probably trying to be the next big internet scam thing. Even if what they're saying was true other companies would soon spring up offering all access internet for same price viva capitalism... P.S. Yeah nice cleavage, but again makes me think it's all abit of a wheeze. |
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Ahdelil Female, 18-29, Canada
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Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:57:05 PM "Ya right, thats rediculous, and if it happened the protests would be so big it would be rediculous" Not if every potential protester contents him or herself with posting comments like this and then does nothing. I mean, think about it. Ok, so it might seem unlikely and since I don't know much about how the Internet works, I can't say if this is true or not, but didn't something like that happen to radio? I recall reading that once upon a time there were tons of indie channels and then they got gradually weeded out untill only a few mainstream channels were left. Whatever the truth may be, we shouldn't underestimate the passivity of the masses. A lot of things were successfully pulled off by various dubious people in power through out history. The "it-can't-be-true-because-we'd-hear-more-about-it-if-it-was" events often became the "how-come-we-let-that-happen" events. |
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nicholelibra Female, 18-29, Eastern US
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Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:44:15 AM If the ISP's were really a part of this whole big conspiracy, don't you think one of them would have gotten up the bright idea to yank damning evidence off of youtube? And who the hell in their right mind would take that chick with her tits hanging out seriously? |
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Ohnjaynb Male, 18-29, Eastern US
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Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:43:33 AM corporations could definitely do this, but all it takes is one organization to offer unlimited access and steal everyone else's subscribers. Also, such a conspiracy on a grand scale is likely to provoke antitrust action by the U.S. government, and probably even stricter action in Europe even before that. |
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Big_Gay_Nob Male, 50-59, Australia
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Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:36:56 AM oh jeez.. there was life before the internet get over itgo learn tennis |
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B-Hazard Male, 18-29, Western US
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Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:26:53 AM it's been a while so the reason we aren't finding much online might just be because I worded myself wrong, so if you sit through that (I think it's near the end when they start going through "what if?"s) you should at least get to hear what I'm talking about. |
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B-Hazard Male, 18-29, Western US
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Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:25:50 AM -@ B-Hazard - Source? I couldn't find one scientific source to confirm that. There is something called the Chandler Wobble (or the Variation of Latitude) which has a period of 433 days. Every site I found that confirmed the whole wobble thing (it shall henceforth be known as the Wobble Apocalypse) only said that the wobble was called "Earth's Wobble," which is way too generic for it to actually be anything real. I also couldn't find any scientific info on an actual even called "Earth's Wobble." Did you seriously get your info from one of those sites?-I don't want to grind into it but I didn't just pull it off of some conspiracy nut website. As for something easy enough to find, a history channel show called "mayan doomsday prophecy" touched on it. |
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