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Before And After Photoshop

Hits: 6511 | Rating: (2.5) | Category: Technology | Added by: ElectricEye
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Gauddith
Female, 18-29, Western US
 226 Posts
Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:07:34 PM
I feel as though you've misinterpreted my post. It was, and is, in direct response to Kaagan's post. The whole He Man issue. And how that body type was invented by men, for men. And while it might create body issues in men, lets not pretend it's the same.

As for the actual issue at hand? Honestly I don't buy into that crap. Everybody's a person and people are all disgustingly beautiful. End game. We need to teach EVERYBODY this, not one side or the other. So yes Gary, we are fully capable of ignoring it, and we are very harsh to one another, but we didn't invent those magazines those are usually run by male execs. But yeah, ignore them, stop buying that crap and eventually they will have to change their business plan. Money says more than petitions.

AvatarJohn
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 1033 Posts
Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:33:14 PM
So are we worried about obesity or not? Should we be happy with our bodies or concerned about being overweight? Mixed messages - I'm confused.

Xprez
Male, 30-39, Western US
 676 Posts
Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:14:36 PM
I think Gerry's 100% right. This is not due to male double-standards and gender roles.
Look at today's younger men. They are confused about what their role is in society for the most part.
Look and listen; men all around are saying they like less make-up, she's beautiful "as is" and I wish she would just put her hair in a ponytail/hat and that's it because she looks great that way.
Men are telling you that we aren't the ones that need that. You are, and it's to impress other women.

SavageChef
Female, 50-59, Western US
 2387 Posts
Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:25:45 PM
Madonna, or Haunted Mansion hall portrait?

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:57:48 AM

madduck,
"but here is not the place to have fruitless arguments about that. "

I don't know of a better place for a 'fruitless arguement'than at IAB.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:56:10 AM

@ madduck, You do look very nice in that photo.
No one would ever know you were born male.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 6113 Posts
Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:51:33 AM
Cheers sweetie- thank you, I was though trying to point out how irrational these things are. It is possibly a female trait- and there is no doubt a sexist element to where it comes from- but here is not the place to have fruitless arguments about that. The point i made is that this should not be ignored- but how we handle it may take some thinking. Artistic alterations have always existed- but at what point does that become dangerous...

Reignblazer
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2287 Posts
Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:54:49 AM
If it makes you feel any better Madduck; I'd say you look just fine to me :p

Tupinambis
Male, 18-29, Western US
 566 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:40:21 PM
Angelina's STILL sexy as hell!

freddyferret
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 11734 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:36:56 PM
Some of the changes are very minimal and don't really change much. I will tell you right now, I would not turn down Katy Perry. Ever. I have no problem at all with the way she looks without makeup and alterations.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:25:30 PM

Gauddith,
"The reality is that a male fueled culture has created these standards, and it is enforced by media"

What a load of horse schitt. The reality is women are 53% of the population. With the majority population why are women such a "minority" ? Women buy into the sales pitch and then blame everyone but yourselves. If what you say is try, why are women so completely powerless? Why can't they make their own decisions and choices? Why is it "male culture" that tells them what they want need?

I think more of women. I think they are stronger than that. I also think they are responsible for their own choices and stop playing the victim card.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:14:56 PM

madduck, a level of vanity is totally normal for anyone. But if I feel like I'm lacking I do not blame supermodels. I don't blame Chuck Norris or Jason Stathum {yum!} because I cannot kick the ass of 50 men at one time.

That's the difference. Women tend to blame the media for their insecurities. Time to look inward. Not you of course. You are above all that.

P.S. I'm waiting for you to type a dirty word now that I gave you the secret.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:59:26 PM
No Gaudith, men don't read these magazines. They gear their product to the consumer. Women. Man-fueled culture, whatever that means, has zero desire to take attractive women, and then make them fake. Men would just as easily relieve themselves to Marilyn Monroe's picture in Life magazine.

"Unrealistic expectations" for men are "more easily ignored" because we know they are fake. We don't take it too seriously. We're not always playing victim. That last one is the most important.

And finally, you say we're pointing the finger at women like they are oppressing us. No, men aren't even an issue in this equation! If oppression exists, it's women oppressing women. Men are just on the sidelines of this issue, because they are not attracted to the end product here.

Gauddith
Female, 18-29, Western US
 226 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 8:11:45 PM
@Kaagan,

That poo is invented by men, and while unfair body standards that manage to make many men feel insecure about themselves are prevalent for men, they are more easily ignored because they are almost always represented in hyperbole.

The reality is that a male fueled culture has created these standards, and it is enforced by media. Don't point that finger at females, like we are oppressing you, it's wholly internal. If you want to fix it, help disintegrate gender roles.

drawman61
Male, 50-59, Europe
 6273 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:45:21 PM
@madduck- you make a good point but the difference, I believe, is that men can turn the page of the magazine and forget all about the Mr Six-Pack they have just seen.

Kaagan
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1550 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 4:00:21 PM
here: because iambored has image size restriction now

http://tinyurl.com/nvue3uh

IMBudduggly
Male, 70 & Over, Western US
 57 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:52:49 PM
Kind of hypocritical for society to accept this type of "performance enhancement" with celebutards augmenting their looks with photoshop, plastic surgery, etc. while athletes are prohibited from enhancing their performances...whether surgical, graphical, or chemical.

bdowner60
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 527 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:25:32 PM
Another attempt to make to make it all about her , the victim!

Randy4861
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 177 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:02:54 PM
Considering the obesity problem that exists in this country, I say if this promotes them to want to lose weight I'm all for it.
We are really gonna call this type of advertising damaging, but not McDonalds?

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 15078 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:28:40 PM
I demand a refund!

chicagojay
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 2002 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:02:55 PM
Are you sure these are all real b4s?

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 6113 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:18:19 PM
But that's it Gerry - I don't. I am rational, sensible and I simply don't buy that poo. I bet it is the same for men in some arena- the nagging voice of sheer lunacy- perhaps it suggests you should have hair- a stupid part of you desiring something you KNOW is not reasonable or rational- but still, there it is. I am not convinced banning photoshop would do much to help- I suspect it is the old enemy profit which drives the thing. Make people unhappy to sell them product- and I isolate myself from adverts for just this reason- but it is endemic- and it is wrong and harmful. How do we stop it? Or lessen it? I am not sure- but at least we are, as a society, talking about it.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:16:45 PM

If they were really THAT afraid of being fat then why do we see so many porkers waddling around?

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:10:38 PM
Yeah, it's mainly women-driven. They're the ones who read those magazines anyways.

But at any regard, it's not the worst thing that 81% of 10 year olds are afraid of being fat. It's not a good thing to be fat, therefore you should be afraid of being fat. Isn't that what Michelle Obama's been teaching them for 5 years?

Agent00Smith
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2349 Posts
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:03:12 PM
Gerry is right again... and to add to that, vanity is vanity, get over it.

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