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Some Many Climate Deniers But... [Pic]

Hits: 6101 | Rating: (2.6) | Category: Science | Added by: DrShrinker
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RytWing
Male, 30-39, Western US
 316 Posts
Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:52:42 PM
So there's a chance it isn't true.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4652 Posts
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:26:20 PM
emmettyville-"rising seas lapping at your feet?

I live ~150 feet from the Gulf....I'm less than worried.

patchgrabber-"Peer review would suss out any bad/biased research"

Or, could suss out any research that doesn't toe the political agenda (& financially viable) line, weather it's viable or not (see what I did there?).

naravin
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 336 Posts
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 2:47:07 PM
tldr

Zed68
Male, 40-49, Europe
 947 Posts
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:30:12 PM
WOW !!!! Seems to hurt you very bad that scientists do agree on the subject.

papajon0s1
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 579 Posts
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:06:08 PM
Whatevers! A bunch of lefties pushing a lefty agenda. Is this surprising in any way?

som-tam
Male, 18-29, Asia
 652 Posts
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 11:58:49 AM
Let's see here... 2000 papers by 9000 authors. Each paper had at least 4 authors. My experience with journals of this kind is that when you research a subject, the same names continuously pop-up. I think that it would be incredible that each of these journal articles was written by 9000 different authors.

I also find it difficult to believe that the one journal that rejected AGW had just the 1 author.

Now, to this commonly held belief that peer review = unquestionably true. Read some of the 'social sciences' and that will kill your belief. Undoubtedly, the evidence has to be well researched and the methodology sound, but science is all about debate - there are few laws and lots of theories. It's laughable how those who claim that science is on their side are the least willing to act in a scientific manner and resort to name-calling.

Phosphoreign
Male, 30-39, Western US
 294 Posts
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 11:19:19 AM
1) Younger-Dryas
2) No, in today's America, you cannot have an opinion that is contrary to the established politically correct norm.

Mikeman64
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 117 Posts
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:51:00 AM
Yeah the earth never had any climate change until the 20th century

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5718 Posts
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:27:15 AM
There is no way such an orchestrated system as right-wingers claim exists could really be. The overwhelming majority of scientists and journals would have to be in on it, and that's just not possible.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5718 Posts
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:22:46 AM
This tin hat nonsense is getting old. Peer review would suss out any bad/biased research. Reviewers have no stake in any given paper. I've reviewed many papers so I'll explain the process:

Journal with a submission contacts you via email. They get your email either from publications you've done in the field or from papers you've submitted to that journal or recommendations.

As a reviewer, you don't see the name of the submitting author or institution. You also don't get paid to peer review, it's an expectation. You read the paper, submit any questions or responses to the author(s) you want, and then make a recommendation to the journal whether to:

1) Publish
2) Publish with minor/major revisions
3) Not publish

There are typically 3 reviewers for a paper. The journal takes their input and decides whether to publish. The author(s) make revisions based on reviewer feedback and submit answers/explanations for reviewer questions/comments.

Tiredofnicks
Male, 30-39, Europe
 4893 Posts
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:55:32 AM
Lots of tin foil being used in both camps here it seems.

Sleepyhallow
Male, 50-59, Western US
 1831 Posts
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 2:15:29 AM
Ollie is again trying to convince everyone that he is smarter than every climate scientist on the planet who has spent decades learning their craft and studying their subject.

Ollie *thinks* he's smarter.

Ollie is an idiot.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5797 Posts
Monday, January 13, 2014 11:23:41 PM
i have always held that even if AGW is not correct( which I firmly believe it is) all we stand to lose by assuming it is is a grubby planet- it seems just foolish to gamble with the only home we have..

MrOrange
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2337 Posts
Monday, January 13, 2014 11:20:56 PM
"It's nothing but a pretext for liberals to boss people around and take their stuff"

.. And all of a sudden i saw an image of a porch with a rocking chair, big gutted naked belly redneck in it, shotgun to his side yelling: you stay 'wy from my car ya hear.

dáww does the big mean teacher want to take your toy's? there there..

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Monday, January 13, 2014 10:05:44 PM
Apropos of nothing: Anyone know what became of CrakrJak? Is he OK? I know he had a medical issue not too long ago.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Monday, January 13, 2014 9:40:09 PM
@ OldOllie: "Where are the 30-year-old climatologists who don't bow at the altar of AGW?"

I dunno. But riddle me this, Batman: Where are the 30-year-old medical researchers who don't bow at the altar of CCCT?*

*Cigarettes Cause Cancer Theory. See what I did there? Clever, huh? Go on, admit it. Few rodents make you chuckle like I do.

broizfam
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 3513 Posts
Monday, January 13, 2014 9:38:34 PM
Ollie, You're an ass.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Monday, January 13, 2014 9:34:55 PM
@ Broizfam: No worries. Ollie and I seems to coexist fairly well 97% of the time (or thereabouts). I acknowledge that he knows probably more physics than anyone else on the site and he acknowledges that I'm a squirrel. Both parties seem content with the arrangement.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14431 Posts
Monday, January 13, 2014 9:31:14 PM
broizfam, I don't need the Republican Party to tell me you're a f***tard. BTW, I'm a libertarian.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14431 Posts
Monday, January 13, 2014 9:30:04 PM
S4S, both of them are close to 60 years old. Their careers were well established before AGW became a cause celebre for the left and the doors started closing. The AGW lefties would dearly LOVE to excommunicate them if they could. Just Google 'Roy Spencer denier' if you don't believe it.

Where are the 30-year-old climatologists who don't bow at the altar of AGW?

broizfam
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 3513 Posts
Monday, January 13, 2014 9:27:56 PM
@Squrlz,
Keep talking like that and Ollie's gonna call you a liberal f**ktard. That's his fallback argument when the Republican party hasn't told him what to say yet.

McDuff73
Male, 30-39, Europe
 727 Posts
Monday, January 13, 2014 9:24:53 PM
the fact that politicians are jumping on the bandwagon and charging you money for AGW does not negate AGW, it just means politicians are doing exactly as they have done for centuries, screwing the public for as much as they can, elect better politicians to run your country, they will still have to deal with GW.

broizfam
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 3513 Posts
Monday, January 13, 2014 9:24:51 PM
Yes, Ollie. You DO get your "science" from politicians.
"Can you name one single "remedy" for global warming that DOESN'T involve liberals bossing people around and taking their stuff?"
Yes. It's called "we work together". It's definitely NOT called, "call anyone with a different opinion a liberal f**ktard. That's just brainless, knee-jerk conservative stupidity. I've noticed you do that a lot. It's a complete and utter rejection of the kind of compromise that made this a great country. That rejection is present on both sides, and is now ruining this country. Wake up. Grow up. Start using your mind, for a change, instead of letting it be used.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Monday, January 13, 2014 9:17:19 PM
@ OldOllie: You didn't address two points in my last comment. First, that NASA is giving important climate research work to Dr. Spencer despite the fact that he is an outspoken opponent of AGW. Second, that Dr. Curry is head of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Inst. of Technology. You think Dr. Curry, the chair of the department, is "closing the door" (to use your phrase) on PhD candidates who are AGW skeptics?

If so, I've got to wonder when you're going to start telling us that the doors are being closed on researchers who can prove that cigarette smoking has nothing to do with cancer. You know, because the anti-smoking establishment prevents them from getting doctorates and refuses to publish their papers.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14431 Posts
Monday, January 13, 2014 8:25:48 PM
@broizfam I don't get science from politicians. That's what your side does. It's called "projection" -- accusing others of doing what you do.

And it's not over-politicized because liberals want your stuff.

Can you name one single "remedy" for global warming that DOESN'T involve liberals bossing people around and taking their stuff?

And BTW, what's the difference between "consensus" and "groupthink?"

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