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Medieval Warm Period

Hits: 3360 | Rating: (1.8) | Category: Science | Added by: stumpen
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OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14376 Posts
Monday, December 30, 2013 10:07:13 PM
@MeGrendel Thus, your statement is proven untrue.

I hope you're not deluding yourself into thinking that matters.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4639 Posts
Monday, December 30, 2013 10:25:32 AM
madduck-"certainly all scientists IN THE FIELD accept anthropogenic climate change"

Richard Lindzen, professor of atmospheric science
Garth Paltridge, retired chief research scientist, CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research
Hendrik Tennekes, retired director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute
Ian Clark, professor, Department of Earth Sciences
William M. Gray, professor emeritus and head of the Tropical Meteorology Project
William Kininmonth, meteorologist, former delegate to WMO Commission for Climatology
Tim Patterson, paleoclimatologist
Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences
John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center

Just a short (and incomplete) list of scientists IN THE FIELD that does not accept anthropogenic climate change.

Thus, your statement is proven untrue.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5790 Posts
Monday, December 30, 2013 8:05:21 AM
Odd really- most people, certainly all scientists IN THE FIELD accept anthropogenic climate change. Just like most biologists accept natural selection, yet we give credence to those who are paid to discredit , or who are not experts in the field... I would not take the advice of an electrician about the state of my roof, or ask a dermatologist about a broken leg.

normalfreak2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1861 Posts
Monday, December 30, 2013 6:54:48 AM
I love that excuse Andrew. if someone else is doing something bad why should we stop doing that same thing? Oh the irony here.

AvatarJohn
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 1004 Posts
Monday, December 30, 2013 12:13:40 AM
Considering this was uploaded only a year ago, it's curious that the video doesn't mention the past 15 years of global cooling (since 1998) that has been observed. So, a sharp up-tick followed by a sharp down-tick, neither with any real explanation. He complains that some of the graphs cut off the years leading up to 2000 but he seems to cut off the years after that. And no mention of the falsified data discovered in the East Anglia email "climategate" scandal where the tree-ring data apparently relied on exactly 3 trees total. Huh...

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5790 Posts
Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:23:58 PM
Only it wouldn't be just our 15% would it- because we do have the technology to give away so that the developing world would not need to wreck the air they breathe and make their people ill. Problem is that profit is god, money matters more than anything else...

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Sunday, December 29, 2013 10:50:13 PM
I don't think we have much control over it. If USA, Canada, Europe, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand all suddenly switch to zero emissions (which would collapse the economy), you still have 6 billion other people whose emissions will only grow no matter what our 15% of the world's population does.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Sunday, December 29, 2013 10:44:55 PM

MeGrendel, do you truly believe we have no control over the carbon we release? I bet you don't believe in the hole in the ozone from fluorocarbons either.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4639 Posts
Sunday, December 29, 2013 6:28:16 PM
@Gerry1of1,



What? Listing four things that mankind has no control over and can only have an infinitesimal effect upon is comparing apples to camels?

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Sunday, December 29, 2013 6:06:31 PM

MeGrendel, subtle. But I don't think comparing tectonic stresses to global warming is a bit ridiculous. Like comparing apples to camels.

Tut thanks for keeping the conversation intelligent. {was that sarcasm too subtle for you?}

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4639 Posts
Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:14:08 PM
Gerry1of1-"It is far too expensive to corporations to stop global warming."

It is also far too expensive to corporations to stop plate tetonics.
It is also far too expensive to corporations to stop the lunar tides.
It is also far too expensive to corporations to stop Sol's orbit around the galactic center.
It is also far too expensive to corporations to stop entropy.

See the pattern?

Jake_Justus
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 5157 Posts
Sunday, December 29, 2013 9:38:28 AM

Can't these idiots ever get their science right? The so-called "Medieval Warm Period" can be attributed to suits of armor. Apparently, these turned whoever wore them into walking Dutch ovens. When the person finally removed a section of the suit for whatever purpose, superheated flatulence (which had been building up for hours if not days) was released, causing a temporal shift in surface temperature. Go listen to the TED talk about it.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Sunday, December 29, 2013 9:24:05 AM

It is far too expensive to corporations to stop global warming. They control the politicians so nothing is going to be done.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5790 Posts
Sunday, December 29, 2013 9:21:24 AM
yeah- whatever, anthropogenic climate change is a myth, pixies clear up our mess, no need to look after our planet- now STFU and turn off your pigging light because I LIVE HERE TOO...

CaptKangaroo
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2075 Posts
Sunday, December 29, 2013 9:15:49 AM
I guess it's the American in me, but I would find grocery lists interesting if this guy was reading them- Them thar Brits, they sure talk purty.
As for the content of this post, yes, climate warms up and cools down, and it's cyclic.
If some Human beings think those cycles can't be affected- for better or worse, by what we do to the planet, they are, in my opinion, short sighted and foolish.
Do I have conclusive facts as evidence? Nope.
Some folks believe in omniscient sky spirits, I believe in consequences for actions.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25708 Posts
Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:51:57 AM
Short Version:
MWP was real, global and lasted 300 years.
It undoubtedly was warmer than average, hence the name!

This video doesn't address the 15 years of 'stable' temp since the one-year 'spike' in 1998. Everything in AGW is based on that 1 year 'trend' continuing, but reality says otherwise.

stumpen
Male, 18-29, Europe
 59 Posts
Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:36:39 AM
Link: Medieval Warm Period [Rate Link] - Fact vs. fiction


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