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Police Ttry Nnew Ccrime Aawareness Ttactic

Hits: 3663 | Rating: (2.0) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: McDuff73
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Swarook
Male, 18-29, Western US
 19 Posts
Monday, November 11, 2013 5:55:36 AM
The mail seems like a better idea the more i think of it.They even ALREADY PAY a govt official to go to every single house why not have the mail man check all the doors since its just to say please lock them.Why not make a small post card type thing dropped of in bulk to the post officeto distribute(that could make more then one town aware)and just have the mail man check each door and invade privacy?because they ARE "saying" that the POLICE have the right to do this.If the goal wasnt to eat up extra busget hours and find crimes to rake in revanue they wouldnt use the VERY EXPENSIVE police force. Your counrty just doesnt have anything saying theyll respect your rights. Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 gave the police the right to search almost anything for anything. THEN the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005 Took your right to protest... i dont know how you protesting helps organised crime... I'd say fight the power but u gave urs up.

Swarook
Male, 18-29, Western US
 19 Posts
Monday, November 11, 2013 5:10:21 AM
1. Youre confusing yourself if you think the cops going to the homes of 550,000 one by one would be cheaper then a mailer mail slip.
2.How being pulled over for just a license can go You say "a crime :O" They use those small "crimes" to insert themselves for anyreason they want.
3.You act like Scheffield is immune.
4I dont memorize these ahead of time i look for them when you say britian is safe.

Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
 553 Posts
Monday, November 11, 2013 1:23:56 AM
@Swarook True we have a different mentality. We don't hate our police they don't have guns and tend to try a more community approach to policing. I got pulled over the other day was called "ma duck"(local affectionate slang)informed that my license plate was half hanging off, as a screw had come out (a crime :O ) helped to reattach it went on my way. Sheffield is one of if not the safest city in the UK. It's mostly student areas this scheme is running. The crimes being committed are torrenting piracy if that. Even if you were doing weed at home you're more likely to get a non recorded caution/warning than anything else. And the police will be out on foot patrol anyway, this is an ancillary tactic, which also got free media and has been advertised around target groups for the length of the scheme. It would not be cheaper to mail 550,000 who are likely not to read the junk mail

Swarook
Male, 18-29, Western US
 19 Posts
Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:59:59 PM
I will admit that Amureeka seems to have more stupid laws that no one know they are breaking. out govt has actually lost count of how many laws you can break. LOL at Amureeka

Swarook
Male, 18-29, Western US
 19 Posts
Sunday, November 10, 2013 11:08:16 AM
@Bakcagain21 No one said that this was an example of the cops "SAYING" they can walk in when ever they want. This *IS* the cops walking in when they want. Its not your fault you were raised to not see these things as invasions so i will assist. The idea that people should be reminded to lock their doors is good, the way is was implemented is not. to just make a town aware it would be cheaper to mail them all warnings not spend police hours benifits and equipment. What they wanted was to be inside homes to get a lay of the land to see what crimes are being commited quietly.Sure you may think if you dont commit crime no worries but please remember that everyone has commited crimes even some that are unknowable
How many of these were you aware of? .I agree Lock your d

Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
 553 Posts
Sunday, November 10, 2013 5:49:04 AM
@Swarook It's you that doesn't seem to get the point. This is not police saying they have a right to enter your home regardless. This is an awareness campaign. You are just as likely to have a guy walk in and rape/commit a crime with or without this scheme cop or not. You're probably less likely to have it happen when this scheme is running i.e you go tell the senior officers or press, or lawyers and then there is a record the were in the area and people get punished. (trust me our judiciary is no where near as messed up as your own)

Solution do not leave your house insecure when you leave. If a policeman or civilian is going to walk in and rape you/commit a crime it will happen regardless of this campaign. This campaign may decrease the risk for individuals by reminding them to secure their property. Your link adds credence to that, the process to hold them to account has begun. It comes from them being sick drats not cops.

Swarook
Male, 18-29, Western US
 19 Posts
Saturday, November 09, 2013 10:41:14 AM
And yes America is retarded and corrupt but we as a people have a history of overthrowing over zealous political figures. The very type of figure Britian still sits under.. Swarook OUT! ""Mic Drop""

Swarook
Male, 18-29, Western US
 19 Posts
Saturday, November 09, 2013 10:38:45 AM
And its funny how this is happening in Britian well not funny but obvious in why they let this happen. If you look the people of Britian are constantly subjected to corrupt policy and leadership they still have a queen think about that a human that lords over them is watched like gods even their babies are worshipped and WHY?!?! because of thier NOBEL blood lol you are still running around with the same mentality that allowed slavery that one humans blood makes them superior to another simply because of the loins that birthed them. Please remove yourselves from servitude to a pompus over inflated figurehead thats just sitting in a drating castle laughing at how stupid you are. Sure some say she doesnt rule much anymore ( i dont believe that) So why then do you raise her and her dirty spoiled children to royal status still. I assume they dont work jobs to pay for the royal lifestyle. Yes some are military but that doesnt pay the bills YOU do Britian. Thats why cops walk in whenever.

Swarook
Male, 18-29, Western US
 19 Posts
Saturday, November 09, 2013 10:28:04 AM
@Bakcagain21 You avoid the point like the plague i never said that they hurt things. The point i made was that you do not know their intention even if they are police. Did you open my links from previous posts on this thread? if not plsease do then as the link says respond with wheather or not you would trust these police. then tell me if you know wheather or not the cops in the video this comment thread is on are capable of the same kind of crime. If you say they are not tell me how you could ever know the working of another humans brain. The point i have been trying to help you understand is that you cannot trust humans so police walking around houses unattended and unapproved by the owners could very well lead to police casing houses and raping young students. this may not happen now but now there are camera men in a year when that policiy is old then who watches them then? PLEASE do look at the links in my last posts and tell me if you trust all cops blindly.

Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
 553 Posts
Saturday, November 09, 2013 7:25:24 AM
@Swarook The police didn't let a Camera man in to do nefarious things. The occupants left their property insecure allowing people from the street to just walk in. i.e Cameraman and Police in this situation. The police didn't break doors , or open the doors with key's etc making a secure property insecure. Like I said it's a civil offence. Unless there was another element, theft, harassment/threat to occupiers, refusal to leave etc then there was nothing criminal here.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16738 Posts
Saturday, November 09, 2013 6:06:45 AM
I'm glad we have the 4th amendment, that wouldn't be allowed here.

Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
 553 Posts
Saturday, November 09, 2013 4:03:39 AM
When I cam back last night I parked up and police were using flashlights checking cars. Asked them what they were doing. Same thing as with houses looking for unsecured cars and leaving notes to tell them not to do it and not leave phones gps on display.

People who are complaining about the police just wandering in. There is a very simple solution. Do not leave your windows open and doors unlocked... Better a couple of uniformed officers do it and give you a blatant reminder not to be an idiot. Then you find out later with someone who is going to rob you (cop or general population) They're also doing a massive push on the high street and at the university giving out uv pens and cards to document and mark your property incase it get's stolen can be returned to you.

And the final point in uk law this would be trespass which is a civil and not criminal offence. To get damages you'd have to prove harm or damage. Goes for the cops and cameraman.

CodeJockey
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4842 Posts
Friday, November 08, 2013 8:27:10 PM
Well, that wasn't creepy one bit...

Swarook
Male, 18-29, Western US
 19 Posts
Friday, November 08, 2013 12:25:56 PM
@Musuko42 You also have your head in the sand. You just made up an excuse for them. Think about that. YOU completely outside of the situation, with the same info as all of us bored ppl and came up with the conclusion that there MAY have been a third cop behind the camera man and then proceed to act like that conclusion should calm fears. Where did this information come from who else saw a third cop in the house? Please people of earth do not just think things like "there may have been more cops inside" and just walk away from the thought process wiping your hands clean as if you accomplised something. all you did was say "they COULD have done it in a way i kinda find acceptable so we shouldnt worry or look into it." pat yourself on the back youre super.

Swarook
Male, 18-29, Western US
 19 Posts
Friday, November 08, 2013 12:17:25 PM
@Bakcagain21 its sad that you would just assume that because they are police that you can trust them. Also i didnt say the police letting the man in there caused any harm just that it opens the option up and i do not like giving people the chance to do horid things to my family or home. Before you respond and say that you cant see what was so bad and that i have a bad "attitude" go to the link i provided then look around the internet more to see more cases of police corruption and abuse of power.Then tell me you can trust the police just because they are police. Your attitude is wrong its equal to the head in the sand.This cop knows the law well. can you trust him? please respond with yes or no.

Swarook
Male, 18-29, Western US
 19 Posts
Friday, November 08, 2013 12:13:22 PM
@Bakcagain21 "@Swarook Except that the police were directly outside with windows on the back door and a big kitchen window. They could see the Cameraman for the 5/10 seconds it took for them to go out and come back in..."
Hoiw long is acceptable to you for a random stranger to let them selfs in with company unwarrented? for me it can be measured in planck time but you seem to have a high tollerence for such things. also why should you being okay with a complete loss of privacy with the excuse of being a warning of danger mean that others should be okay with it? You think you can trust them because they are police but police are humans that applied for a job. Most of them are there for a power they cannot recieve in normal life.Can you trust police blindly?

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Friday, November 08, 2013 7:07:46 AM
If this were the US and police entered a persons home unlocked door or not without permission or a warrant imagine what the defenders below me would be saying... Quit kidding yourselfs you're grasping at straws!

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Friday, November 08, 2013 6:59:50 AM
ROFL!!! and you wonder why they disarmed you! Have fun with that police nanny state.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2804 Posts
Friday, November 08, 2013 5:01:47 AM
@Swarook

"then the cops walked out leaving the civilian alone in some ones home"

Why do you assume the cameraman is left alone in your scenario? Another officer could have been in there the whole time, off camera, to supervise.

bataleon27
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1179 Posts
Friday, November 08, 2013 4:00:38 AM
@Swarook - @Draculya - I guess that's the difference in our culture. I see the police as being helpful and friendly and I would have no problem with them filming such an event to help myself and other people avoid burglary.

Whereas you instantly think they are doing something wrong and would probably seek a lawsuit. There is something seriously wrong with that attitude. You leave the door open whilst nobody is in with a serious potential for burglary, yet when the police try to be helpful and warn you of the risks, you throw it back in their face...

Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
 553 Posts
Friday, November 08, 2013 2:32:26 AM
They've been doing this since the Summer. Student areas like Broomhill, Crookes etc people just feel wrapped up in the Student bubble and are very unsafe. It amazes me how many laptops memory sticks phones etc just are left laying around the IC (Sheffield Uni's biggest Library)

A lot of thefts also happen when people first move in, as they've come from home where parents and family look after them etc Suddenly they're with new people but don't think any of them could be thieves so don't lock doors in student halls etc. Not realising that around the student areas there are poor areas and thieves just walk in as they know students have lot's of gadgets and don't think they are at risk.

Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
 553 Posts
Friday, November 08, 2013 2:29:41 AM
@Swarook Except that the police were directly outside with windows on the back door and a big kitchen window. They could see the Cameraman for the 5/10 seconds it took for them to go out and come back in....

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 11518 Posts
Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:32:36 PM
Illegal entry

CaptKangaroo
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 1977 Posts
Thursday, November 07, 2013 7:37:43 PM
We often leave our windows and doors unlocked.
Cop or not, you come in my house uninvited, you get your ass shot.

Swarook
Male, 18-29, Western US
 19 Posts
Thursday, November 07, 2013 7:14:00 PM
At 00:59 the police go into a home with no one home and have a camera angle where its as if the police entered for the first time. This means that the cops tried the door saw it was open went in saw it was empty then let the civilian camera man in, then the cops walked out leaving the civilian alone in some ones home so they could get a shot of the police "entering". So they may argue that its fine for the police to do this that you have nothing to fear but those police officers let a camaera man have an undisclosed amount of time unsupervised in a persons home while they are away without permission and thats just what they didnt think to edit out.

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