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How Ddoes Tthe Affordable Care Act Aaffect Yyou?

Hits: 2772 | Rating: (1.8) | Category: Misc. | Added by: auburnjunky
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Nerd_Rage
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 423 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:48:57 PM
Frost; the people you are hoping will get taxed to "even things out abit" just got fat tax breaks from our politicians, it only hurts the middle class; it's an attempt to crash the private healthcare system so they can move us to the single payer system , which would be catastrophic for our standard of living. But forcing demand in the market as NOT how you solve the problem. The issue is that being forced to insure people means that more people will die, which means you will be paying all of those expenses, and the reason you went into business was to profit . Now only this time you are losing money; the only conceivable way to even your bottom line is to raise the price of your product, plain and simple. Then nobody will want to buy private insurance b/c their rates are too high, so then you'll be forced to buy gov't subsidized healthcare, not because it's better, but because it's all you can afford. Please see "Russia".

CreamK
Male, 40-49, Europe
 938 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:36:51 PM
Math also says that disabled people should be terminated etc. horrible things. Health care is not only about cost but care. And it's in the end, cheaper to insure all than to insure few. For systems that are transitioning from one system to another, there are transition periods. Deal with it, you got a lot of the "rise of cost" coming from peoples who didn't have that option before. When time passes, the basic health improves, less sick, less suffering, less sick people in general. Moving from universal to private means short time profits until the whole things balances.

C_Frost
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 121 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:05:59 PM
lies , do the math and use logic, the higher costs will be spread out over everbody

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10207 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:50:23 PM
I suppose an argument could be made for Microsoft or Google


Perhaps it's important to stress that they are SUCCESSFUL monopolies, who properly earned their market share. By providing goods and services competitively, not by fiat or being able to comply with govt regulations.

collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3730 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:19:19 PM
"the United States has a circular economy, not a closed loop economy"

uhh...

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:42:34 PM
@aliyah

Please also note that when I say "laissez-faire" I mean it in every sense.

Harding's reaction to the Depression of 1920 was to cut government spending nearly in half, reduce the debt by one-third, and slashing tax rates for all income groups.

Notice that this is starkly opposite to what was done in response to the Great Depression, which subsequently lasted ten times longer.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:26:22 PM
@aliyah

p.s. the United States has a circular economy, not a closed loop economy

I'm not sure what you are saying here; a closed-loop economy is a circular economy. I suspect you meant that the US is not a linear economy, but even so, there are plenty of arguments for both in most industries.

plus it is ruled by monopolies and human consumption (supply/demand) and people who write the

I cannot think of any monopolies (or oligarchies) right now that are not created by governments. I suppose an argument could be made for Microsoft or Google, but there are viable alternatives to each.

PLUS this past recession has the been the FASTEST recession recovery in U.S. history!

When did we get out of it? Also, the Depression of 1920-1921 lasted less than a 1.5 years. The rapid recovery is largely credited to Harding's laissez-faire policies.


pmarren
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 4135 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:21:38 PM
aliyahg1979, I read your whole rant thinking "Jesus, she's smart AND hot", sadly, that thought kept me from digesting a word you said.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 23949 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:16:29 PM
@aliyagh1979: You think the ACA will lower your rates? Insurance Companies will use ANY excuse to raise rates... the ACA makes it worse.

The USA has "recovered" from the recession? NEWS TO ME!

There's been lots of "short recessions" in the USA since 1900, just FYI...

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 23949 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:11:46 PM
Already harming average Americans! The ACA is BAD FOR USA. 0-care (zero care).

This guy does what Democrats and the MSM apparently could not be bothered to do: LOOK AT THE FACTS.

Fact: Insurance Companies are DUMPING MILLIONS of cheap policies, and FORCING people to buy MORE EXPENSIVE ones.

Fact: Millions of jobs will now be 29 hours per week, never more, because of the ACA. You'll have to get TWO JOBS to get 40 hours... neither will get you healthcare.

Fact: Insurance Companies will make BILLIONS MORE PROFITS because of the ACA, they LOVE IT!

But Obama promised it would make things cheaper? The website ALONE cost $500,000,000 FFS...

tl:dr?

Costs will ALWAYS be passed down to the customer. The average American will end up paying more for "healthcare" than you used to: directly, indirectly or both!

aliyahg1979
Female, 30-39, Eastern US
 219 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:59:26 AM
p.s. the United States has a circular economy, not a closed loop economy, plus it is ruled by monopolies and human consumption (supply/demand) and people who write the laws. PLUS this past recession has the been the FASTEST recession recovery in U.S. history!

aliyahg1979
Female, 30-39, Eastern US
 219 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:48:49 AM
In the U.S. the insurance companies are FOR PROFIT agencies... they do not care about you living or dying, just about share holders and making money.

I know a chiropractor who gets $5.03 per unit from the insurance companies who tell him to charge the patients for the rest. about 14 years ago he was getting $38.50 per unit, but in 2006 the IC dropped the payout by a few dollars every few months and in turn raised premiums.
My husband's health insurance has quintupled in the past 9 years with absolutely no decline in our health in any way. The deductible/copay went from $0/$5 per year, to $800/$65 per person.

Sorry about the rant, but the system we've had in this country has been turning to pot for years, I am glad to see some sort of variance in hopes of health insurance regulations in relation to their "price gouging" in time of need.

aliyahg1979
Female, 30-39, Eastern US
 219 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:46:51 AM
s and other ailments,but if they are found early and nipped in the bud, then the situation will most likely not progress. The wrinkles in this program will need to be ironed out, but how do we know this will fail is we do not try it?

For flippin' sake, this has to be given a fair chance in order for this to even have a shot to function properly. If this does not work, then it does not work in a U.S. setting, but setting it up to fail is straight up sabotage.

aliyahg1979
Female, 30-39, Eastern US
 219 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:43:00 AM
lol non-bias you say? but isn't he a "contributor" on Fox and Friends? Anywho, I guess I'm going to be one of the 500lb diabetics with chronic medications up the yin-yang with the horrid Western diet that will now be accepted... except I'm 125lb, I exercise, eat a 95% raw organic vegetarian diet and the only thing I have an adverse reaction to is prescription medications. The insurance companies viewed me getting hit by a car while walking as a pre-existing condition. yay!! Oh and me and my family DO NOT belong to any welfare programs nor do we "mooch" off the government in any way, nor are we Liberals. As I recall, not too long ago there were a few statements made by Rush that "exercise is a Left wing agenda" and the "healthy people are the reason rates go up since they get hurt while exercising."

Preventative care, healthy diet and exercise (walking, Tai Chi, basketball) are the key to a healthy life. There will be bone breaks, headac

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:56:04 AM
One of the biggest shames of this century was to convince the public that economic understanding is so complex as to be beyond the capacity of the average man - nothing could be further from the truth.

Xprez
Male, 30-39, Western US
 676 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:50:24 AM
You can't cite truth, liberals hate it. The Affordable Health Care Act doesn't impact those already living off of everyone else. It affects people that actually work for a living, like me and some of you here. SO, naturally those that are benefitting from this are happy as a clam, while our premiums go up.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5683 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:44:58 AM
So apparently the only people who don't have health insurance are fat diabetics or people with chronic medical conditions who will suck all the life out of the system? Methinks this has a subtle political motive, especially with his 46% reference and phrasing like "I live off the government."

Will the increase in sickos not be offset by the increase in younger, healthier people? This will remain to be seen, but this is far from a comprehensive, unbiased "math" video.

collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3730 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:09:14 AM
"Not a political post. Sorry guys!"

it will be...it will be...

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 9867 Posts
Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:01:09 AM
Link: How Ddoes Tthe Affordable Care Act Aaffect Yyou? [Rate Link] - Not a political post. Sorry guys!

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