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Hits: 5483 | Rating: (2.4) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: Squrlz4Sale
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5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25660 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 1:32:45 PM
It's true @Squrlz4, we're going to "stoneWALNUT you with NUTTY distractions until you PEANUT stand it any longer!

Are you claiming the ALL the OWS people, ALL the "Anti-War" people, and ALL the protests since Nixon should ALL be placed in jail for 20 years?

OWS = Overthrow the gov't entirely
"Anti-War" = Overthrow Bush entirely
& etc.

No, the actual people responsible are Obama & the Democrats, NOT US citizens exercising their RIGHT to Free Speech and RIGHT to Free Assembly...

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 1:18:46 PM
@Squrlz

Peanuts? Cashews? Are you trying to make me hungry?

Lol - it's the first thing that popped into my head; I had just had a Trail Mix bar with peanuts and almonds.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 12:54:59 PM
@ HumanAction: Peanuts? Cashews? Are you trying to make me hungry?


HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 12:47:14 PM
@Squrlz

You're comparing firecrackers to a nuclear bomb.

I doubt this entirely, but only time will tell. It's certainly much too early to lay that claim. Either way, the principle is still the same: the House does not agree to the budget; this is the entire debate regardless of specific laws.

Who are you to claim that shutting the government down over peanuts is somehow more responsible and justifiable than shutting it down over cashews?

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 12:44:13 PM
Monday

Food and Drug Safety Act (H.J.Res. 77): provides immediate funding for the Food and Drug Administration. (Passed in the House 235-162)

Tuesday

Head Start for Low-Income Children Act (H.J.Res. 84): provides critical education funding to support Head Start programs across the country. (Passed in the House 248-168)

Deficit Reduction and Economic Growth Working Group Act (H.R. 3273): creates a bipartisan, bicameral working group charged with beginning negotiations, resolving the differences between the House and Senate, and helping re-open the government and address our debt. (Passed in the House 224-197)

Federal Worker Pay Fairness Act (H.J. Res. 89): ensures that federal employees who are still on the job during Democrats' shutdown are paid on time. (Passed in the House 420-0)

All the Dems in the House voted for it! What do all of these have in common? Blocked by Senate.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 12:43:12 PM
@ HumanAction: From having debated with you previously, I know you're smart. But you're also (compared to me at least) young and don't bring a lot of perspective to the table.

The first presidency I can remember in any significant way was Richard Nixon's: I remember his televised resignation. In the first presidential election I voted in, I voted for Ronald Reagan--because I used to be a Republican.

Having witnessed the presidencies of Nixon, Carter, Ford, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, and now Obama, I can tell you that there has NEVER been a government shutdown remotely like this one. You're comparing firecrackers to a nuclear bomb.

Most of the earlier shutdowns were over relatively small budget items, like the MX Missile program--issues that were discrete and quickly resolved. Many of those prior shutdowns occurred over the weekend and were solved by the following Monday night.

This is NOT checks and balances; it is NOT business as usual.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 12:32:18 PM
I guess we should also lock up the Democrats who opted for the eight (8) shutdowns during the Reagan administration. Oh, of course we shouldn't forget the Republicans from the Carter/Clinton eras!

This CONSTANT whining is complete and utter nonsense.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 12:18:41 PM
@ PopCap: OK, I'll play. How in any way does voting for Obama in the last election meet the definition of sedition per United States Code 18, Section 2384?

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 12:08:00 PM
@ CrakrJak: I absolutely agree that your quote of Obama's there showcases hypocrisy. It's the difference between an up-and-coming politician doing some irresponsible grandstanding (then) and a president who has a lot more responsibility on his shoulders (now). That said, Obama's vote in 2006 didn't result in a government shutdown.

PopCap
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 570 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 12:01:14 PM
Yep. I would agree with this. This covers Obama and everyone who voted for him in the last election. Let's do this!

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17130 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 11:41:42 AM
I'll just leave you all with this quote:

"Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt limit." Barrack Obama, 2006

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17130 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 11:01:07 AM
S4S: I think you've been dipping into the fermented pumpkin juice too much.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 11:00:07 AM
@Squrlz

Please keep in mind your abhorrence of checks and balances next time a Republican is in power. That is all.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:34:43 AM
Is this a stretch? Yes, but not by much.

Here's the definition of *sedition* from Britannica:

Crime of creating a revolt, disturbance, or violence against lawful civil authority with the intent to cause its overthrow or destruction. Because it is limited to organizing and encouraging opposition to government rather than directly participating in its overthrow, sedition is regarded as falling one step short of the more serious crime of treason.

Here's the situation that the Tea Partiers have put our nation in:

Either:

(A) Capitulate to an attempt at extortion that will do lasting damage to American democracy; OR

(B) Incapacitate the federal gov't and, should the debt limit not be raised, do serious economic damage.

Add to this the fact that many Tea Partiers openly express contempt for the gov't and a desire to tear down as much of it as possible.

If that isn't close to sedition, I don't know what is.

djwajda
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 851 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:15:22 AM
Sorry, but if this is the stand someone wants to take on this then it starts with a 20 yr sentence for Obama, down thru the senate and house, ensuring each and every member of congress gets the same. Again, it's NOT just one party playing games here.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 9:52:46 AM

Someone came up with this idea and at no point did it occur to them that it was a stupid thought?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25660 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 9:49:51 AM
So Obama, Reid and Pelosi will go to jail for 20 years?

I'm fine with that!

As for @Squrlz4's intended message:


Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10272 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 9:29:58 AM
There's only one way I can respond to this...

ALL HAIL GENERALISSIMO OBAMA!!!


LET HIM WRITE THE LAWS!!
LET HIM MAKE WAR WITHOUT DELAY!!!
LET HIM PUNISH ALL THE DISSENTERS WHO STAND IN HIS WAY!!!

OBAMA IS WITH US ALL AND HE WILL SEE TO SOCIETY'S NEEDS!!!

ALL!!!
HAIL!!!
GENERLISSIMO!!!
O-BA-MA!!!

panth753
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 8861 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 9:03:26 AM
I'm with you on this one Drom.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 8:57:35 AM
Let me remind you that the sequester is also written into law. The very same sequester that Democrats will soon be trying to prevent the implementation of.

Also, this is a ridiculous stretch of the word "force" within the context given. The entire premise is just silly.

DromEd
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1573 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 8:56:44 AM


Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Wednesday, October 09, 2013 8:40:51 AM
Link: Not More Than 20 Years [Pic] [Rate Link] - It seems Tea Partiers are confusing patriotism with sedition.

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