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Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 11:37:45 PM
@ CrakrJak:

(1) The link works just fine for me. Try it again.

(2) Yes, *of course* all the money for the ACA hasn't been collected yet. When I said it was *funded* when it was signed into law in 2010, I meant that money had been *appropriated for it*. I would have thought that was obvious, but I guess not. What the Teahaddists are trying to do is strip money that has been appropriated for the ACA out of the budget. There: Is that clear enough for you? Or are you going to accuse me of a "blatant lie" again simply because you misunderstood something?

(3) Ha! Your attempt to blame the government shutdown on Harry Reid is 100% baloney. It is at such a remove from reality I'm not even going to bother with it. But do keep believing it: You and the other Tea Partiers are doing such a good job of marginalizing yourselves out of the mainstream that I can hardly wait for the 2014 elections.

SavageChef
Female, 50-59, Western US
 2017 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 11:31:47 PM
Yeah, because none of the rest of us need our paycheck. Send her to the garbage heap.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16859 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 11:14:20 PM
Squrlz: Your linky no worky.

But I do know of a recent Rasmussen Poll that 56% want the president to delay implementation of the mandate, to 26% that do want it. 54% expect it to increase, not reduce, health care costs. 51% think it will make the health care system worse.

So forgive me if I'm skeptical of your "two-thirds" figure. and your "The Affordable Healthcare Act *was* funded by Congress when it was signed into law in 2010." statement is a blatant lie. Why? because it's funded on taxes and increased insurance premiums, that didn't start taking effect until this year.

Also, your "...holding the rest of the government's operations hostage." claim is no fault of the Republicans, it's Harry Reid, at the behest of Obama, that has short circuited budget negotiations in the senate for the past 3 years.

Harry Reid could end this shutdown in a day, by letting the budget come up for a vote on the senate floor.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 9:47:53 PM
@ Elkingo:

Not sure what you mean when you say "the American people wised up." Per (the very conservative) Forbes magazine, two-thirds of Americans want to see the ACA law enacted; only one-third want to see it defunded or delayed. What we're seeing is the result of gerrymandering of Republican districts by state legislatures--gerrymandering that has created extreme far-right districts, which have elected Tea Partiers, who have no incentive to compromise on anything.

Also, you seem to be misunderstanding a basic point in all this: The Affordable Healthcare Act *was* funded by Congress when it was signed into law in 2010. What the Tea Partiers are trying to do is to DEFUND it by holding the rest of the government's operations hostage. This is not democracy in action; it is an attempt at extortion.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 13370 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 9:15:45 PM
@nubblins Hey, I'm still holding out for universal health care...

There are dozens of socialist $#!+holes that offer "universal health care." Some of them even speak English. Just pick one and go. There's no need to drag us down into that sewer.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 9:06:16 PM
@ Nubblins: I hear you. The ACA is being received enthusiastically by millions who have been fed up with the rip-off healthcare system we've suffered under for decades. The ACA isn't perfect, but it's an improvement. This is opening eyes and making many question the status quo.

And as you can see both in the halls of Congress and in this I-A-B thread, the right-wingers are going ballistic.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:58:05 PM
@ Djwajda: I think we can agree that American politics are in a very sorry state. I'd love to start fresh with a clean slate, with term limits, an overturn of the Citizens United ruling, and the abolition of the debt limit procedure, which is archaic and virtually unheard of in the rest of the civilized world. Once a budget has passed and we've spent the money, paying the bill when it comes in the mail should be automatic.

Dead-Kittens
Male, 30-39, Canada
 982 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:58:04 PM
You know what we need? another war..lets take our ridiculously oversize military budget and go fubar someone to buy back voter morale....I dunno...maybe Australia? or we could liquidate some of that surplus and actually provide adequate social services...just a thought.

nubblins
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 1753 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:56:35 PM
Hey, I'm still holding out for universal health care...


*hears crickets*


elkingo
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3203 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:55:38 PM
@Squrlz4Sale: Fuh Q

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:52:59 PM
@ Elkingo:

I think it is hilarious how all of my points are simply ignored on this bullsh|t thread.

Sorry, Elkingo. I work my way through the comments from most intelligent to least intelligent and yours simply haven't made the cut yet.

elkingo
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3203 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:50:13 PM
I think it is hilarious how all of my points are simply ignored on this bullsh|t thread.

elkingo
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3203 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:48:25 PM
"Yes, elections DO have consequences--and through elections, Democrats hold both the Presidency and the Senate."

Too bad the American people wizened up.. and too bad you can't just fund whatever you want to pass without congress huh?

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:47:37 PM
@ OldOllie: Ollie, if you just close your eyes tight enough, grit your teeth, and hold your breath, I'll bet you can convince yourself Obama was never elected.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 13370 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:45:02 PM
@S4S If you want to get rid of Obamacare, then contribute to political campaigns, knock on doors, and get more senators and a president elected. That is how democracy works.

No, that how you get audited by the IRS 4 years in a row.

Democrats are always squealing like stuck pigs about "voter suppression." Well this is what REAL voter suppression looks like:



And THAT, my friends, is how Obama stole the election.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:42:42 PM
@ MeGrendel:

Remember, elections have consequences...and Republicans won the House.

Yes, elections DO have consequences--and through elections, Democrats hold both the Presidency and the Senate. And even with their slim hold on the House, Republicans FAILED to repeal the Affordable Care Act 42 times. 42 TIMES.

Sucks to be you, huh?

elkingo
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3203 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:35:04 PM
Imagine that, a politician keeping a campaign promise! Lol

elkingo
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3203 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:34:17 PM
@MeGrendel -- The republicans in office causing all this uproar are the ones that got voted in based on them saying they would do exactly what is happening now.

elkingo
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3203 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:33:04 PM
@S4S You mean the old law in 2010 they revised or changed 19 times?

Politifact

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4317 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:32:25 PM
Squrlz4Sale-"If you want to get rid of Obamacare, then contribute to political campaigns, knock on doors, and get more senators and a president elected. That is how democracy works"

This is what is happening. These Republicans realize that if they don't do this, they will most likely not get re-elected.

YOU don't particularly like it, but this is the result of the last election.

Remember: "Elections have consequences" (what? You only like that when it benefits YOUR side?)

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:26:22 PM
@ OldOllie: Obamacare was SIGNED INTO LAW in 2010, examined and approved by the highest court in the land, and its namesake was re-elected in 2012. Per the Constitution, this is how legislation gets enacted in this country.

If you want to get rid of Obamacare, then contribute to political campaigns, knock on doors, and get more senators and a president elected. That is how democracy works. Not by holding a nation hostage if you don't get your way.

djwajda
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 847 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:15:36 PM
@Squrlz

Sorry but what I see is not what you say but an entire group of politicians, both D and R that are acting like spoiled rotten children. This isn't just about Obamacare. This is ongoing and involves childish antics on BOTH sides of the board.

Harry Reid is an evil bastard that is out for himself. Boehner is a moron who doesn't know which way to side unless his job as speaker is on the line. It's not a liberal or conservative thing. These arseclowns are ALL out for what they can get for themselves and screw the public. And that includes good people like you and I that while we have differences of opinion still care about this country.

Vote ALL of them out and start fresh.

elkingo
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3203 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:11:08 PM
Because, without the government, we can't do things... like walk in the woods... or look at things.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4317 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:07:35 PM
Squrlz4Sale-"they're trying to extort the nation"

So the political process is now extortion? Remember, elections have consequences...and Repbublicans won house.

I don't seem to recall your outrage when this crappy ACA was 'deemed' passed, when all the waivers were handed out and the fact that Obama has illegally delayed several parts of it already.

Squrlz4Sale-"minority of extremists"

Republicans are not the minority in the house. Nor are they extremest.

Strangely, the house IS passing legislation....it's the Senate where ONE person (the most minor a minority can be) is not allowing them to come up for a vote.

Squrlz4Sale-"Why don't I just contact 30 liberal politicians in the House and have them DEMAND that tax rates on the rich go up to 95%"

Would be funny to see you laughed out of the House.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 13370 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:05:29 PM
She's working; they are not. Nevertheless, she just voted for all those furloughed government workers to get paid anyway.

Liberal hate post = fail.

S4S, I agree. I absolutely support a policy of NOT TALKING to the Democrats as long as they're trying to extort the nation into accepting Obamacare even though the vast majority of them don't want it, and it's turning out to be a complete unmitigated clusterf***.

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